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Old 04-08-2004, 02:59 AM   #1
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Default 12 lb battery let me down ... or ... ? photo



Bought it here: http://www.heeltoeauto.com/marketpla...cell/index.htm (xcellent service!)

I've talked to people that have used this battery for up to two years ... in Northern CA ... w/o any problems ... so ...

I was surprised when my car wouldn't start after shutting down for a few minutes at a drive through ATM.

I've only had the battery in for a few weeks ... and haven't driven it that much. But, the AAA mechanic who jumped started me ... said the battery was in fine condition and was charged ?

Connections were tight ... I don't have a heavy duty sound system ... it was warm ...

When I had tried to start ... it barely turned over ... I let it rest ... but it was even weaker the next time around ... and after that ... I just got a series of Clicks when I tried to start.

I've driven it a number of times since this incident ... w/o any problem ... only driven short distances. I'm using this battery because I AutoX my car ... but at the moment I'm driving around with my OEM battery behind the passanger seat! Pretty silly!

Any Suggestions as to what was going on here?
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Old 04-08-2004, 08:46 AM   #2
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I'd get that battery load tested to know for sure what condition it's in. There's no way the AAA guy could have really known if it's ok unless he had a load tester with him and used it.
Also check the parasitic drain to be sure nothing is draining the battery excessively when the car is off. Those little batteries are very sensitive to this as their reserve capacity is not very good.
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Old 04-08-2004, 01:29 PM   #3
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The AAA guy had this device ... that he jumped the car with ... and he said using that device he could tell that the battery was good and charged ... this is while it was still attached to my battery and the car was running ...
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Old 04-08-2004, 01:38 PM   #4
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Ok, he might be right, but I'd still get a second opinion from someone with a load tester. Also, even though the connections are tight and the battery is fairly new, it would be a good idea to take the terminals off and make sure the connectors and battery posts are clean inside where they make contact.
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Old 04-08-2004, 01:56 PM   #5
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I just put it in a few weeks ago ... it was all bright and clean new metal ... and the posts are different sized so that you can't mix up the connection ... I guess I could add dielectric gel between the connectors and posts ...
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Old 04-08-2004, 02:15 PM   #6
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The dielectric gel wouldn't help matters any I don't believe. It will just provide another medium for the charge to travel thru before being routed to your starter cable/ground, not enhance or clean up the path.
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Old 04-08-2004, 02:21 PM   #7
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I would check ALL the grounds and positive connections for corossion and/or security by unscrewing them and cleaning them and re-connecting them. This sounds like heat induced, added resistance somewhere in the start/ground circuit.

That battery looks like a 're-badged' Hawker Odyssey. Many people have had problems with the 're-badged' batteries.
My PC680 has had absolutly zero problems in daily use since last September mounted under the passengers seat.

EDIT....there is an ebay seller of the Hawker PC680's that ships them for $85 in the CONUS, and I believe that they include the SAE terminals.

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Old 04-09-2004, 12:03 PM   #8
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You know, just letting the car sit for a couple minutes with the ignition on and the engine off will drain the battery. When you turn off the car, turn it all the way off. Sitting with the radio on (even a stock radio turned really low) will drain it.

These batteries have more than enough capacity to start the car a couple times in a row, but are not going to have enough juice to start the car if you use up the capacity it an interior light or a radio....I think this is the one and only drawback to the NRG-CELL racing battery.

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Old 04-09-2004, 01:00 PM   #9
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I'm ordering one of these (Battery Tender) to keep the battery topped off since I don't drive it everyday:

http://batterytender.com/

Waiting to hear back from them to find out which one to buy ...
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Old 04-09-2004, 07:54 PM   #10
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Reserve capacity per weight is roughly the same between all lead batteries, "wet" or "dry". So the 12 lb battery has about 1/3 reserve capacity of the stock one.
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