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Old 06-19-2004, 10:58 AM   #151
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why'd you go and do that? haha...

so i take it you got it to link up? what was wrong?
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Old 06-19-2004, 12:52 PM   #152
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Old 06-19-2004, 09:59 PM   #153
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why'd you go and do that? haha...

so i take it you got it to link up? what was wrong?
The com port on my computer.
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:03 PM   #154
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Old 06-25-2004, 09:10 PM   #155
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so what did all of you end up doing with the ecu cover plate situation?just get some spacers and longer screws?

dropped my car off today for the installation and engine swap... im so excited!
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Old 06-25-2004, 11:38 PM   #156
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I didn't even mount my yet.. the car is still down.
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Old 06-27-2004, 02:31 AM   #157
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hmmm...my confidence in this item is going down by the day.
nothing provided to mount it?

i guess that no news is good news in the "problem" department. no one is reporting a blown engine or anything...or is it just that no one has really gotten one or around to fiddling with it?

so whats the skinny guys? is this thing the real deal or just a load of hooey?
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Old 06-27-2004, 03:11 AM   #158
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I didn't even mount my yet.. the car is still down.
BTW.. I'm pretty sure the hydra isn't the problem.
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Old 06-27-2004, 05:30 PM   #159
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hydra is installed and started the car... just idled for a couple minutes.. Need to work out some bugs on the car itself...


will be tuning this week and next as i will have a long weekend...

I want this finished as much as the next hehe..
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:20 AM   #160
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My swap is completed... the hydra was the last thing to do... got it all hooked up... plugged it in.. NOTHING... its not getting any spark...

i REALLY need to get a laptop to check whats going on with it...
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:28 AM   #161
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doesn't sound like an ECU thing to me.. more details?
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:38 AM   #162
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hmmm...my confidence in this item is going down by the day.
nothing provided to mount it?

i guess that no news is good news in the "problem" department. no one is reporting a blown engine or anything...or is it just that no one has really gotten one or around to fiddling with it?

so whats the skinny guys? is this thing the real deal or just a load of hooey?
Well like any ecu its only as good as the tuner, the unit it self wont blow the motor, but a poor tune will. Its real and its the best stand alone ecu around IMO. But stand alones are not for everyone, this will never pass smog.
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:56 AM   #163
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yeah, you said that part before.
i think you are missunderstanding my questions as being from someone with 0 knowledge of how these things work.

all i want to know is, IS THIS THING ALL IT'S CRACKED UP TO BE?


so far no one has come on and doled out any info. just because people THINK it's the bee's knees before actually testing it means nothing to ME.

BAH!
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:19 PM   #164
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yeah, you said that part before.
i think you are missunderstanding my questions as being from someone with 0 knowledge of how these things work.

all i want to know is, IS THIS THING ALL IT'S CRACKED UP TO BE?


so far no one has come on and doled out any info. just because people THINK it's the bee's knees before actually testing it means nothing to ME.

BAH!
0 knowledge of how these things work.

Ok... sure.

What info are you looking for? It does what it says it does... Ask any of the MR2 guys using it, or if you have subaru specific technical questions ask Phil. What do you mean "all its cracked up to be?" It wires into your car, plugs in, and if its tuned right runs the car... Its been run in the by the mr2 guys for a while it works.


If you looked in the other thread I liked to you would see some of the comprimises of this system if thats what your looking for...

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1. Initial startup crank time increase. Phil has stated that due to the Hydra using a slightly different method of firing the coil packs, the Hydra requires a couple more turns of the engine before it starts compared to the stock ECU.

2. Lack of cruise control. Explained above

3. Lack of ODB2 support (I think this is for legal reasons). This means if you live in a state (like I do) that requires some sort of ODB2 inspection, you need to keep your stock ECU (and be CEL free too) when you get your car inspected. This requires you to swap the stock ECU back in and run it until you trigger the "sensor ready status" for the emissions equipment. This is the biggest pain that I see so far. Who knows how well your car will run completely untuned on the stock ECU.

These are the only "comprimises" that I know of so far.

I still question some of the STI dash functionality (rev light, beep), the changing of maps remotely (think Utec map switch), and launch control activation. These things really haven't been discused by Phil in any detail as to how/when/if they work on the current Hydra ECU.

I think I am still scheduled to be one of the first to recieve the Hydra and have it tuned by Phil, so I will provide my impressions/review at that time. The wait has been killing me. Try sitting on a stage 4 STI for 6 months and only running 10psi.
. Hopefully with the Hydra, I can run a little more than that

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Old 06-28-2004, 12:30 PM   #165
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i think you still missed something in the translation. but ok.

i want to know...from folks that HAVE installed and worked with it how it's working in the car that i drive. otherwise i WOULD be over at the MR2 forum. come on now, i gave you more credit than that.

so thats it in a nutshell....if you have it and it's working or not working as you had expected. lets hear it.
hear say and conjecture is not what i am looking for. nor am i looking for simple specs. HARD TESTED info.

Cliff notes...
if ya got it on a subaru...how do you like it?
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:33 PM   #166
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Ok, where just speaking different languages I guess. I dont care if they like it or not, just if it works.
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Old 06-28-2004, 12:48 PM   #167
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Onederer - nobody has one in a WRX or STi yet. Its not available yet. Hopefully this week the wrx guys will get theirs, STis to follow in a few more weeks.

So.. the RS guys have theirs, its the only subaru people that have tried it out. Is it all its cracked up to be? I don't think any of us know for sure. Too early to pass judgement.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:52 PM   #168
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STi's are delayed until August. WRX and RS, next batch is shipping week of July 12th.

There is a supply shortage of plugs. Those with an already standing order are recieving a $65.00 discount.

That is all.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:59 PM   #169
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Yup, got the same email right after I posted... sigh... another two weeks...
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:00 PM   #170
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Yes it's true...more waiting.....

I'm thinking about wiring the thing in myself. Comparing the harness in the photos in this thread with the one that xxtuning sells for the STi, the Hydra one looks alot simpler. I count about 40 wires coming out of the Suby side of the harness.

Am I crazy?
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Yes it's true...more waiting.....

I'm thinking about wiring the thing in myself. Comparing the harness in the photos in this thread with the one that xxtuning sells for the STi, the Hydra one looks alot simpler. I count about 40 wires coming out of the Suby side of the harness.

Am I crazy?
Yes.


Unless you realy like wiring wait... its a PIA to track down and get everything right.
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Old 06-28-2004, 04:41 PM   #172
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Yes, and even if you got it right, going back to a stock ECU for emissions and resale of your car would be a nightmare. Wait the two weeks...
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:26 PM   #173
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I talked to Phil about wiring them in.

He agrees, don't even try to do it.

He says the connector that is the trouble is one on the Hydra's main board; it's made by Delphi. Wiring the Hydra would then mean soldering to the main board with some 100 pins. I will not do that.

It'll be a month for the STi's units. I can do a lot of wiring in a month, but I won't solder onto a main board.
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:49 PM   #174
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doesn't sound like an ECU thing to me.. more details?
it has to be.. my car runs with the stock ecu, safc, and safeguard hooked up... but when we plug in the hydra... it dumps loads of fuel... and sends no spark..

we havent hooked up the air temp sensor yet... because we dont know 1) where to mount it (before or after the turbo?) and 2) we dont know where to plug it in to the hydra...

other than that.. what else could it be if it runs with the safc and stock ecu?

i personally think they didnt set the spark map.. but i need a damn laptop to check it out!
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whoops haha i read that totally wrong...

but you need the laptop no matter what... did you do TB calibration yet?
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