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05-28-2000, 09:12 PM | #1 |
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stage one or two?
I know I don't have a car blah blah blah
This is just for my car knowledge in general. Here is what I have gathered Stage I: really safe reliable, really easy to install. Everthing is a breeze. HP: 230 (guess) at crank and 154 confirmed at the wheels. over 95 stock (definetly a honda beater. Price from asr $2700 with ball bearing *ohhh ball bearing* (read homer style)PSI 5 Stage II: @ 8 psi not so safe not so reliable need lots of gauges: EGT, fuel pressure. J&S knock sensor, apex retarder, fuel pump, fuel pressure riser. Price $4200 from minnam definetly a corvette killer, if your car doesn't blow up. HP about 280 at the crank Now I know this is kinda a slanted view but It seems that the stage I is a lot more sensible, not nessacary the best but definetly more sensible. fell free to prove me wrong
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05-28-2000, 09:18 PM | #2 |
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it obviously depends on what you want. Do you want to go fast or really fast? It's a simple choice. Having the funds is a separate matter entirely, however.
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05-28-2000, 09:52 PM | #3 |
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You know you don't have to turn up the boost if you have the stage 2. It would be better to have all of the electronic stuff AND a intercooler which will put more air into the car.
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05-29-2000, 12:41 AM | #4 |
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how much life will the stage 1 take out of the car.
if it wasnt for the turbo cutting the life out of the car i would get it. space |
05-29-2000, 01:18 AM | #5 |
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I would argue that a Stage II set up is less stressful on an engine than a non-intercooled Stage I. With a colder charge and a knock sensor, it's hardly what I would call risky. The only real caveat is to keep boost down to a level where you're not running lean. That's probably around 7psi with stock injectors, stock pressure and stock fuel pump. YMMV, of course.
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05-29-2000, 05:18 AM | #6 |
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i have an SFC, apex ITC, RX7tt fuel pump and weapon R FPR. I still do not have a RR FPR, or bigger injectors. My jumptronix read .92 -> .89 when running 10lbs of boost from 4K->6K rpm. I think this is a high, safe number. Unfortunately, I cannot go any higher with my slipping clutch. I will probably need either when I want to go to 12 or 14lbs.
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05-29-2000, 06:53 AM | #7 |
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Why waste time with a stage 2? Stage 10 I say.
On another note, what does stage I, II, III really mean? Is it like a standard where: I - no IC II - IC III - Change pistons, compression, etc? |
05-29-2000, 11:01 AM | #8 |
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I think he was talking about the Minnam kit or at least I was.
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05-29-2000, 03:57 PM | #9 |
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So, I'm thinking about installing the stage II kit. But to do so, do I need stage I done first? Also, what is meant by "at the crank" versus "at the wheel"? Is this in reference to HP lost? Finally, what is the total gain in HP for a stage II kit, once installed?
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