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Old 04-16-2004, 11:47 AM   #1
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I am a new owner of a Subaru WRX 04' sedan. I am looking to upgrade the tires possibly the rims as well. I think it looks cool and sportier lowering the suspension with new springs as well.
I am thinking about ordering either Eichbach's or Prodrive.

1.) What springs do you guys reccomend? (I still have stock rims and tires at the moment - will be upgrading soon)

2.) Where would I go to get these new springs installed (what kind of shop - will a regular tire shop be able to do it?) Also, what can I expect to pay?

3.) Would new performance tires on stock rims and a lowered suspension be the way to go on a budget?

Thanks for your quick input!

AmRiK
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Old 04-16-2004, 11:52 AM   #2
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1)Prodrive is awesome.....don't know if they are out for 04s yet, but if not wait for it.

edit: I should add that eibach makes the prodrive springs, but the eibach pro-kit and the prodrive springs are a bit different (i.e. prodrives are linear, eiback is progressive IIRC). Spring rates are different too, and the prodrives are designed with the stock struts in mind.

2)Try to get someone local (with tools, space and whatnot) to help you out and do it yourself. It is pretty easy, and you'll get to learn about your car. An impact gun comes in handy for spring installs.

3)absolutely. The stock wheels are only 16.5 lbs and tires will do a lot for the car.
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Old 04-16-2004, 12:02 PM   #3
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I have Prodrives and love them.

Most mechanics will install springs. I called a couple random places by my house and they quoted me from $200-300. Midas, Discount Tire, and others will do it. You can also just go on your local forum and see if someone will do it for you. that worked for me, I had a great install for cheap.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the linear nature of the prodrives handle better than the progressive Eibachs, and from what I've seen, they even out the wheel gaps better that Eibachs. I don't know if the '04 Prodrives are out yet; if they aren't and you use 02-03 springs, you will need 02-03 top hats to make them fit your 04 struts.

I have not upgraded tires yet, and that is the only bad thing about the springs: they really made the RE-92's the weak point of the whole suspension/handling equation. I can't wait to upgrade. I will be keeping the stock 16's, though. They are light, strong and look decent and almost disposable, they are easy to find cheap if you ding one.
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Old 04-16-2004, 12:13 PM   #4
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Prodrive all the way! IMO they are better than the eibach prokit because of the linear rate, close to sti spring rate afaik, the even fender gap look (more even than eibach), and the fact that they are designed to work with the factory struts, its not optimal, but no other springs are designed as well for subarus specifically, other than subaru parts of course.

yes new sticky tires are the BEST upgrade you could do for any car as far as handling is concerned. and yeah the stock rims are uber light. new tires and prodrive springs were the first two things i did to my car and it made such a big difference. then i upgraded the rear swaybar. that would be a good route for you. although a proper alignment would do wonders for handling, just be sure to get that done after the springs.
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Old 04-16-2004, 12:19 PM   #5
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although a proper alignment would do wonders for handling, just be sure to get that done after the springs.
yep...-1.5 camber in the front for the prodrives.

I also recommend a rear swaybar. Combined with the prodrives, best suspension you can buy for under $500
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Old 04-16-2004, 12:34 PM   #6
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Lotís of guys rave about there Prodrives so I feel a need to represent the minority, Eibachs.

Eibachs are progressive, which means they are a little cushier on the street.
They are one of the only manufacturers to offer wagon specific springs.
They are about $100 cheaper than Prodrives.
I have them on my wagon and love them.

Yes your wheel gap will still be off, personally that does not bother me, it is still better than stock. So far I have no rub with my Kuhmo 712ís in 225ís with a 17X7 48 offset rim, but that could change with a different tire brand.

It all depends on you and what you want to do with the car. Some say that progressive springs are inconsistent under load so they go with linear springs.

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yep...-1.5 camber in the front for the prodrives.

I also recommend a rear swaybar. Combined with the prodrives, best suspension you can buy for under $500
a side note about alignment. i just got mine done yesterday and asked for -1.5 deg camber front and 0 deg rear, zero toe all around. they could only dial in -1.2 deg camber all around, they said i needed camber bolts if i wanted to get any closer to -1.5 in front and 0 in rear. this is for a wagon so i dont know if the same is true for sedan.

also if you have a wagon, a rear strut bar makes a big difference given the lack of rear tray in the wagon.
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also if you have a wagon, a rear strut bar makes a big difference given the lack of rear tray in the wagon.
WORD!

I agree, although many do not, this has been a long ongoing argument.
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Prodrive springs/Koni strut inserts/Whiteline rear swaybar/Whiteline rear strut bar... That's what I'm running on my '02 wagon along with 225/45-17 tires. Looks awesome, handles awesome. The wife's Miata with the Mazda sport suspension will still destroy it in the twisties though. Oh well... I drive both. Life is good.

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Originally posted by asbWRX04
Hi,

I am a new owner of a Subaru WRX 04' sedan. I am looking to upgrade the tires possibly the rims as well. I think it looks cool and sportier lowering the suspension with new springs as well.
I am thinking about ordering either Eichbach's or Prodrive.

1.) What springs do you guys reccomend? (I still have stock rims and tires at the moment - will be upgrading soon)

2.) Where would I go to get these new springs installed (what kind of shop - will a regular tire shop be able to do it?) Also, what can I expect to pay?

3.) Would new performance tires on stock rims and a lowered suspension be the way to go on a budget?

Thanks for your quick input!

AmRiK
pm 'RH DUDE.' he is a moderator and lives in Nova. we worked a deal to do 2 sets of spring installs last week with him... IMpact gun for hire...

Also... If you want stock STi springs I can hook you up!
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