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Old 05-10-2000, 11:35 AM   #1
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Thumbs up superwhites?

I want to put on superwhites on my 00 RS. Are all bulb manufactures the same in the quality of their bulb? I want to have lights that look as close to xeon as possible. what do you guys recomend.
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Old 05-10-2000, 11:42 AM   #2
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I am going to be posting a review shortly... I ordered Hella Xenons in the stock wattage from Ken at rallylights.com and installed them last night. $26 including shipping. The stock bulbs were too dim for me... but these do the trick and I stayed at the stock wattage . For about $6 more you can get the Hella Optilux which are supposedly a little whiter. Some of the other guys are running much higher wattages than stock. Do a search in the archives for a thread with the title including "BMW" to see some recent posts about white lights. Hope this helps!

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Old 05-10-2000, 01:04 PM   #3
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Superwhites temp is 3500k superplasma is 4300k and the new superplasma fx is 5000k

currently superwhite, superplasma fx and razo's 4100k bulbs are avaiable for our h3 foglights.. oh and raybrigs
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Old 05-10-2000, 01:06 PM   #4
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Brucelee,
Bulbs can't put out watts, bulbs use watts and put out lumens. Watt is a measure of Power whereas lumens are measure of light intensity.

Dot bulbs by law are only allowed to deviate slightly from each other in light output (maybe 10%) or so.

Bulbs like PIAA appear brighter becuase the light is concentrated in a smaller pattern.

Claims of same light as an 100 watt bulb in a 65 watt bulb are just marketing hype.

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Old 05-10-2000, 01:23 PM   #5
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Well, I have tried Two types of Headlight blubs now. . . I first bought the PIAA Super Plasma Bulbs because they said they were the CLOSEST TO HID "looking" as possible. They were RIGHT!!!! they look JUST LIKE THE EXPENSIVE BMW HID headlights, BUT they are soo damn DIM! it sux. . I drove around with them for about 5-6 months now and my buddie has some ZEON higher wattage blubs that melted his headlamps cuz they are Cheep aftermarket Clear lens ones for his Nissan. I asked if I could barrow them to try them out. They are a lot Brighter! yet don't look as good as some of the other Superwhite/HID looking bulbs. I really want to try the Hella Optilux top of the line ones, yet I just got a Turbo kit and am a bit low on the $ right now. I'm thinking of selling my Piaa blubs, but not sure yet.

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Old 05-10-2000, 01:28 PM   #6
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Bruce Lee,
I hope I didn't come off too harsh.

Watt is a power measurement, that is why many appliances are rated in watts. It tells you how much power they consume.

Lumens will tell you light output.

And degrees kelvin will tell you the color of the light. I think it is based on heating a tungsten bar until it glows, at different temperatures the color of the light given off changes.

I would like to try the Hella's because the price seems reasonable and Hella is a name I have known for years.

While PIAA is probrably a very reputable company with a good product, they seem to be more aggressive in marketing than Hella or Cibie. These marketing costs have to go somewhere.

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Old 05-10-2000, 01:45 PM   #7
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Miracle Worker,
I have Piaa superwhite headlight, foglight, and corner light bulbs.
Here are the part numbers and what I paid:
15455 (fog lights)- $25 each
15660 (headlights)- $70 pair
19168 (corner bulbs)-$16 pair

These are all stock wattage except for the corner lights (5W instead of 3.5W)

I like them. Do a search though. Some are very unhappy with the performance in wet conditions. They are dim when the road is wet, but any bulb that has a whiter light output will be, no matter what the wattage is. White reflects more.

I have had the fog light bulbs both blow out within a year. I am on my second set now, and if they go, I will go with some yellow Hella bulbs. I am not sure what type, but the Hella bulbs are also recommend, and I think they are cheaper. Be careful with the higher wattage bulbs, you can melt the reflectors. If you have any other questions, you can e-mail me if you want.

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Old 05-10-2000, 02:21 PM   #8
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I was very unhappy with the PIAA Super Plasma Blues. They are very dim, and even worse in the rain! I've since seen the light (ok that was dumb) and have installed Hella Optilux Xenon headlights in 100/80W flavor, and the H3 size in 55W flavor for the fogs. They are MUCH brighter than the PIAA's that I spent too much money on. Oh, and the reason I swapped was because one of my PIAA SuperWhite H3 bulbs burned out prematurely! PIAA quality for you.

GO HELLA!
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Old 05-10-2000, 04:30 PM   #9
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That is why I stayed away from the PIAAs .
Go with the Hellas... the wattage is up to you. Maybe ask Ken at rallylights.com what the thinks about wattage if you order from him.
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Old 05-13-2000, 08:04 PM   #10
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Lightbulb

I'm write the same thing I did before, but here's a little more:
I been recommended to the German-made Narva Rangepower high-efficiency bulb. Over Hella and PIAA. Which gives about 30 percent more light at 75 meters distance from the
car.
They're $11/ea at Daniel Stern Lighting. http://lighting.mbz.org/faq/
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Old 05-13-2000, 11:24 PM   #11
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Just to confuse the issue, I have PIAA Superwhite Platinums in my headlights, fogs, and corner lamps. They're definetely bright, enough for me, and I haven't had any problems in the rain, fog, or snow. Then again, I've adjusted my fogs to the proper alignment. From factory the fogs are aimed to bounce up off the road surface, effectively illuminating about 5 ft in front of the car. Aim them a bit higher and parallel with the road, you'll be very pleased with them!
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