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View Poll Results: Should LArry Ganz get tossed off?
Yes. 12 46.15%
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No, you should be voted off the island... 6 23.08%
You both should go... 8 30.77%
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Old 04-18-2004, 09:41 PM   #1
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Default Should Larry Ganz be voted off the island?

Scroll to the bottom, you'll see my take on the subject...

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...5&pagenumber=2

After watching him play everyside of every story, I've had enough. None of you here really like him anyway, it just hasn't been that big of a deal in our lives. But, I'd like to see this place grow again, and it can't with his hands on his joystick...Larry, you can't work on your own car because you wife says you can't...even before then you couldn't because you were bossing JC Sports and PDM both around to do it for you for 4 years!!! You are not a true enthusiast and only a hamper to the community, including BOTH of those businesses you helped crash while supporting your own...

JUST cuz I'd like to see whether or not you get kicked out by a vote...a simple anonymous click....

Here's what I typed, just so the thread makes sense:



Larry, how come you left out the part of that $1600 being put in to your car to finish it at your request? Rather, at your demand............................................ .

You hid from your wife for for four years at JC Sports and PDM both. I watched you do it. Almost everyone here has, too.

You fought with her there...I watched that too...so did many people here.

You avoided your kid's "stupid soccor games" (Your words specifically on more than one occasion.)...

You called 10 times a day, or more, in addition to emails and faxes...I watched those, too. Your incessant hounding of that place was so bad it's an inside joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I watched Joel try to answer the phones and talk to live customers too while working on parts. Those phones never stopped....often going later than 10pm. The emails weren't too much of a load. Not having been able to do more to lighten the workload...that's more difficult...

Larry, you're not a person I'd do business with. You hound, whine, complain, and only contributed from being good with numbers and a slick mouth. Slicker than mine, due to the fact I just hate bull **** after a while and prefer it straight. Dealing with you was more work than it should have been. Concerning this blower system on my baby and why they've had it so long....it's love of what I'm doing and not a profit motive. I also know how to stay occupied. I get updates without being a pain in the ass. I'm also learning plenty to apply it to my own business aspirations. I kicked you out of that for several damn good reasons. I also don't want you touching my car, which you've also known for a long time. Each and every time you have treid to come on here and paint a different picture, bloat your own ego, and make money, too. I still love what I do even without a penny to my name doing it. The only thing I'm defending writing this is the fact I put some real effort into it. You bossed the entire place around because you had the most money to do so. You were an investor in PDM and JC Sports both and your car proved it. I'm still a broke gearhead who works his ass off and that car represents almost everything I have that I've worked very hard for. There's a damn good reason I haven't let you have anything to do with that!!!!!!!!!!

I watched you do business with everyone involved in that shop, only to walk away holding everyone's cash in the end. You've played every part of every angle with every person to ever walk through their doors. Parts you bought at cost you sold for a profit when your wife told you to get rid of it. Slick? Yes, just like everything else you do. Illegal? O heavens no, you'd never do that....Just because you know how to keep your nose clean doesn't make you a good businessman . I have freedom of speech, too .

...and before you go quoting me and ripping this apart, and threatening everyone but the pope with your lawyer...remember one thing, Larry...FU2!!!!

You know what? I put everything I had into that place, which wasn't much in the first place. It's still on the line and I'm not ****ing giving up. Back surgery, losing multiple family members...life still happens. My only regrets are what the customers are still stuck in, and what I've missed in life from devoting all my spare time to this. To you, it was just another business venture. I know to myself and especially Joel, it's our lives. It means lives to everyone involved, so please don't underestimate it's importance to anyone, especially me. I refuse to be a pawn in your game, or treat my customers in such a manner.

Another thing...I'm gonna be the first to vote you off the island and ASK FOR YOUR MODERATOR JOB!!!. The technical advice you think you're respected for youy gleaned from that last 4 years at PDM and JC Sports. You learned from your mistakes $50,000 later, through foolish spending and driving. Which, BTW your wife also doesn't know about...does she? I don't want your job, if that's your worry. I've been busy trying to get my own business started. There is enough room for everybody, but not for anybody who wants to take up all the room. This place is the least of my worries. I just don't want to see the community hampered by what you DON'T have to offer. SubaruPlanet.com functions because you are again, slick, and good with numbers. Back before JC Sports crashed, you snatched Joe Cox's vendor list and ImprezaRS.com took off like a rocket. You paid someone to de-engineer another product and then claim it does wonders when you didn't even design the damn thing. You've still never lifted a torch, turned a wrench, or smashed a finger. I have cut knuckles right now from modifying my 84 wagon...just because I love the hobby.

THAT's my say on PDM, JC Sports, AND Larry Ganz, AND my own aspirations. I'm going off to life....You can't work on it behind a computer screen.
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Old 04-19-2004, 03:24 PM   #2
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drama drama drama
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Old 04-19-2004, 07:05 PM   #3
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come on guys... move this to some LA honda or DSM forum
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Old 04-19-2004, 08:07 PM   #4
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I kinda figured nobody really cared....the venting felt good though...
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Old 04-21-2004, 12:40 PM   #5
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larry should buy an evo , he creates like stated above drama to much drama
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Old 04-21-2004, 02:19 PM   #6
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hamfist and larry should buy a honda
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Old 04-21-2004, 04:18 PM   #7
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i heard honda makes lawn tractors
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Old 04-21-2004, 04:41 PM   #8
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What a mess. Lets make a TV show!
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Old 04-21-2004, 06:47 PM   #9
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Somehow I think "survivor: High altitude tuners" wouldn't go over too well... there aren't nearly enough hot women into what we do.
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Old 04-22-2004, 12:04 AM   #10
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No F&F photohacks?....c'mon....

BTW...my ghetto 84 FWD wagon now stomps Hondas silly...why downgrade--it's just starting to get interesting ?

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Old 04-22-2004, 12:33 AM   #11
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Somehow I think "survivor: High altitude tuners" wouldn't go over too well... there aren't nearly enough hot women into what we do.
You obviously haven't seen the women of Subaru calendar thread Mikitto has going over in OT. There are plenty of hotties driving around these forums and suping up their cars. And a number of them are PCE, so they would fit right in with Larry and Hamfist.
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