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Old 04-19-2004, 06:13 PM   #1
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Question 04 WRX + H6 Compatability Issue

I recently purchased and received a H6 Rear Brake Kit from subaruwrxparts. After removing my OEM rear brackets and taking out the clips and pads, I attempted to install them into the new bracket that came with the kit, only to find that they did not fit. I remember reading quite a while back ago that the wrx oem pads and clips should be a direct swap to the new legacy bracket. Did I read wrong? I tried searching for more info on the H6 Rear Brake Upgrade, but the 3 character minimum limitation really prohibits a thorough topic search.
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Old 04-19-2004, 06:33 PM   #2
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What about it didn't fit?
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Old 04-19-2004, 07:47 PM   #3
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The brake pad was too wide to fit into the bracket, even without the clips (shouldn't matter). The clips did not seat properly in the bracket. There were gaps and spacing everywhere; definately not made to fit.
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Old 04-19-2004, 08:47 PM   #4
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The brake pad was too wide to fit into the bracket, even without the clips (shouldn't matter). The clips did not seat properly in the bracket. There were gaps and spacing everywhere; definately not made to fit.
Pics please. You can e-mail them to me if you cant post. The clips snap in place and can be a little finicky, but you say even without the clips the pads wont fit in the bracket?

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Old 04-19-2004, 10:14 PM   #5
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I'll find some time tomorrow to disassemble it again, and I'll get pictures for you. The brake pads are about a half a centimeter too wide to even fit in the bracket, without the clips. With, it's even worse.
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:24 PM   #6
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It would seem you have the older style calipers. The 'H6' brackets do fit, but you'll need to buy the later style pads.
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Old 04-19-2004, 10:38 PM   #7
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Since he has an 04 he probably doesn't have the older style calipers. Subaru was nice enough to change the rear pad shape on the Impreza again for the 04 model year. I don't know if they changed the pad shape on the cars that come from the factory equipped with the H6 setup so I don't know if there is an easy upgrade for 04 owners.
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Old 04-19-2004, 11:41 PM   #8
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Subaru was nice enough to change the rear pad shape on the Impreza again for the 04 model year.
Shucks. Since I ordered the H6 Rear Upgrade from the 04+ WRX section under "Brakes," I was under the impression that they would fit, especially when the description under the product states, and I quote: "Kit comes complete..."

I hope subaruwrxparts.com understands my situation and will allow me to return the product without a 15% restocking fee, as it was clearly their fault for selling something for a vehicle that is not compatible with the item.
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Old 04-19-2004, 11:58 PM   #9
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....that or get the old style calipers out of a boneyard and be
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Old 04-20-2004, 12:10 AM   #10
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Let's not be so hasty. You said the pads don't fit, but do the calipers bolt up? If they do, I would think that all you need is the right pads and you're set.

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Oh yeah, Uncle Scotty... clear out your darn inbox!
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:04 AM   #12
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Let's not be so hasty. You said the pads don't fit, but do the calipers bolt up? If they do, I would think that all you need is the right pads and you're set.
Possibly, but the shape of the pad is determined by both the caliper and the bracket. It seems that it would be possible for them to bolt together while not forming the correct shape for a pad to fit.
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Old 04-20-2004, 11:04 AM   #13
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If you wanna sell the brakets I may be interested.
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Old 04-20-2004, 02:29 PM   #14
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Since he has an 04 he probably doesn't have the older style calipers. Subaru was nice enough to change the rear pad shape on the Impreza again for the 04 model year. I don't know if they changed the pad shape on the cars that come from the factory equipped with the H6 setup so I don't know if there is an easy upgrade for 04 owners.
Great. We'll need to make a note of this. Good question about whether the Legacys also change the rear bracket for 04.

Dimsum, Brian(North Ursalia on our board) works at Exeter IIRC. Give them a call and ask for him, he can sort it out in a few minute with a PN search I am sure. They need to know if the parts have changed so this doesnt happen again.

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Old 04-20-2004, 05:03 PM   #15
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Brian doesn't need to do parts number searches, I'm convinced he knows them all by heart.
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Old 04-20-2004, 10:56 PM   #16
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The fact that it's on the 04 page is quite entirely my fault, though I blame it squarely upon the parts catalog I had at the time I added the seperate pages in an effort to keep unfortunate things like this from happening. I wish I knew all the part #'s by memory Chris, as it would solve these problems .

The latest CD shows the 04 WRX/RS getting a different shape pad than the 03, where it had showed the same pad for the 04's previously. The Legacy bracket hasn't changed however for 04.

For the short term, I have removed the H6 brackets and the bracket/rotor combo from the 04 pages while this is figured out. Assuming the bracket bolts to the 04 caliper (I'm pretty sure they do and the pad is the only problem) I believe that the short term solution to the issue for people who really want the upgrade is to grab a set of rear pads from an 03 WRX in addition to the upgrade (it's still on the 02-03 page if you folks want to try this) as the bracket is the primary component that determines the pad shape (the 03 and 04 pads are quite nearly identical if you discount the "tabs" that fit into the caliper brackets).

Long term, I have a sneaking suspicion when the CD containing 05 Legacy info becomes available sometime in May, that we will find the rear H6 sized bracket on the Legacys will change to mimic the 04 Impreza, as the Legacy runs a year behind on many things, and that those brackets will work with 04 Impreza rear pads. Just a guess though.


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Old 04-20-2004, 11:30 PM   #17
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DimSum22,

In the meantime, you are 100% welcome to send those brackets/rotors back to me for a full refund. Send them back something cheap (USPS is fine) and I'll refund your return shipping to me as well. Our address is on the website under 'contact' if it's illegible on the box. If you want to wait, I will try to find a local guinea pig to try putting 03 pads in the H6 bracket with the stock 04 rear caliper. If you want to be that guinea pig, I'll send you a set of pads to try. Please just let me know which route you'd like to take, so I can expect to either wait for your parts to return or to send you a set of pads .


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Old 04-20-2004, 11:51 PM   #18
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Brian,

I didn't check if the calipers bolted up to the bracket, but the bracket did bolt up to the spindle. New clips and pads would be needed though.

How should I contact you?
I've already e-mailed subaruwrxparts.com off of the contact page, but haven't received a response yet.

Let me know, I'll gladly be your guinea pig.

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Please keep us updated, as I have brackets and Bobcat pads waiting for my H6 rotors to come in. Thanks Tucker
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:26 PM   #21
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David-

I got tied up with a 1000 pound Whiteline shipment yesterday . Pads went out today (you probably got the tracking number already). Let us know how things work out as soon as you can- thanks!


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Old 04-22-2004, 10:14 PM   #22
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Thanks!

It'll probably be here next week, so i'll be able to install it next weekend.

Oh, and did you send pads and clips? I need both to get things to fit.

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Clips come with the pads . All will hopefully be well .


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Old 04-22-2004, 10:54 PM   #24
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Ah splendid.

The joys of great service.
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Old 04-22-2004, 11:05 PM   #25
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You are most welcome and I'm glad we might find a way to work this out! We just try our best every day and hope for the best .


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