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Old 04-21-2004, 10:02 PM   #1
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Cool This is the RS's answer!!!

Probably been posted before, but i got a kick out of this when they emailed us (Car and Model) for a product review.

http://www.esuperchargers.com/


OMG.. Buwhahahaha is all i can say!!
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Old 04-21-2004, 10:06 PM   #2
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And their competitor..

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

Wonder when HKS or Greddy are releasing one..

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Old 04-21-2004, 11:46 PM   #3
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Old 04-22-2004, 12:42 AM   #4
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can we get a group buy?
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:09 AM   #5
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If it's been on TV is must be a quality product.
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:40 AM   #6
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....capable of boost levels up to 2psi!! Finally for or a fraction of the cost of a normal Supercharger you can receive the same power benefits.
do they really think that a supercharger only gets you 2psi of boost? I guess if you believe that then you should pay $15 to learn how to spend $60
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Old 04-22-2004, 10:07 AM   #7
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is that thing for real?
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Old 04-22-2004, 10:13 AM   #8
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is that thing for real?
Yes, but I dont think anyone is stupid enough to buy one.
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Old 04-22-2004, 10:58 AM   #9
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pass......

never seen a supercharger that worked on these cars...

end result is always a dead ride...

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Old 04-22-2004, 01:26 PM   #10
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is there even such thing as a 98 civic si in the US?
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Old 04-22-2004, 02:28 PM   #11
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i think soooo but it was prob the hatch thing or maybe that was 99 just in hatch


bah my honda knowledge i got rid of
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Old 04-22-2004, 03:25 PM   #12
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is there even such thing as a 98 civic si in the US?
Nope. Civic Si for ek chassis was produced only in 99 -00. Civic Si for eg chassis was the hatch and ran from 92-95.
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Old 04-22-2004, 03:30 PM   #13
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This is totally bogus; there is no way an electrically driven fan could EVER pull enough power from a car battery/alternator to produce enough air flow to boost the engine; a SMALL supercharger typically draws 15000Watts from the engine (that's about 16HP). In order to supply that kind of power, your electrical system would have to provide the motor with 1250Amperes. Does that little motor look like it can handle 1250Amps? Do you see 00AWG 1/2 thick wires comming out of it? In fact, electric superchargers actually REDUCE power because the fan can not keep up with the air flow demands of the engine at WOT; the increased air flow sees the fan as an obstruction and power is spent to "windmill" the fan up to speed. As the fan overspeeds, there is a very good chance that the blades will fail and get sucked into your engine.
Those things sell great because most people are too stupid to look at the physics behind them. Do a search on this forum or on Google; its been discussed over and over again. AFIK there is only one electric supercharger out there that works; its an EATON Roots with 3 heavy duty car starter motors powering it. It runs off a 200 pound separate battery bank and provides boost for 15 seconds before all 3 motors become too hot to continue operating and the battery bank voltage starts to drop too low.
This has been posted and bashed so many times in every single car forum that I am surprized the moderators don't just delete the posts as they come.
A few links for the "believers" to read before this turns into a posting binge with "you don't know what you are talking about; it works, my friends honda civic made 300WHP with one!":
1- Eram Tests
2-Thread on NASIOC about the Eram
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Old 04-22-2004, 05:02 PM   #14
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In addition to what powerlabs stated, here is a link to a lengthy discussion from RS25.com.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/showthrea...c+supercharger

Some guy that sells them actually kept the thread going for a long time. He was so certain that it worked he was going to send one to James (runs rs25.com) but never sent it after many excuses then disappeard from RS25.com. Big surpise, huh. Conclusion: Bogus product that might actually hurt performance.
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Old 04-22-2004, 05:58 PM   #15
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LOL! I am replacing my vf34 with one immediately!

My friend has an eletric fan on his integra, but it doesn't flow anything, so it probably doesn't hurt his performance, but he claims it helps cool the air for his intake. I dunno, I say stick to proven technology that works.
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Old 04-22-2004, 06:45 PM   #16
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Bump...great product and great seller!

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Old 04-22-2004, 08:10 PM   #17
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Maybe if you got like ten of those things and strapped them to your rear bumper it would be like a jet or something
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Old 04-22-2004, 09:41 PM   #18
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Those things sell great because most people are too stupid to look at the physics behind them.

Whoa there! That's a little harsh. Everyone isn't fluent or good at physics and such. Relax bud! That's why they need people like you to make it all simplified and easy to understand. Carry on!

If I was just getting into the modification scene and such, that little demonstration with the supercharger floating upwards from the ground would've convinced me. It looks like it could do something.
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Old 04-23-2004, 09:34 AM   #19
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Sorry, I think that statement was a bit harsh indeed. It was not meant to offend anyone. I apologize if it did.

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If I was just getting into the modification scene and such, that little demonstration with the supercharger floating upwards from the ground would've convinced me. It looks like it could do something.
Well, here at the mechanical engineering technology department of Michigan Tech we have a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine (3.5HP?) that is "supercharged" by some type of electric leaf blower engine. It does actually make some extra power. The reason why it works is because with a very small engine such as the B&S's 25cc or so, the leaf blower provides more than enough air flow to keep the intake manifold pressurized. I bet the E-Ram would work great on this type of application also, although the 12 volt battery that would be required to power it would weight about as much as the entire engine itself, and run flat in a couple minutes before it had to be removed and recharged for a couple of hours...
However that same leaf blower would never be able to keep up with the air flow demands of an automotive engine, so I guess the real issue here is having a "feel" for just how much air an engine consumes, and how much power it would take to supply the engine with all that air, and then some to produce positive pressure.
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Old 06-07-2004, 10:51 PM   #20
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Wow - and to think I almost went w/ tried and true N/A mods.
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Old 06-07-2004, 11:52 PM   #21
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is this legit??? http://www.boosthead.com/home.php

seems like it might actually work, but i don't think i would ever buy it...
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Old 06-08-2004, 02:14 AM   #22
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is this legit??? http://www.boosthead.com/home.php

seems like it might actually work, but i don't think i would ever buy it...
that yes, but it's designed for only 15 sec bursts and seeing as how it's 3 starter motors driving 3 eaton rotors it's going to draw nearly 100 amps continous power which means for that 15 seconds your alternator is going to steal 10 hp of what you are making just to keep the charging system voltage up.
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Old 06-08-2004, 07:28 AM   #23
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actualy if you read up on thomas night webpage you will see that they use rechargeable batteries to power the 3 motors instead of your alternater. these batteries are wired in series and run about 100amps but they dont pull near that. they are using mil-spec batteries to hold the charge.

Its pretty interesting but NOT for those of us wanting constant power not a 15-second burst its pretty dumb.... why not just go with NOS proven not realy all that expensive.
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Old 06-08-2004, 09:54 AM   #24
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Probably been posted before, but i got a kick out of this when they emailed us (Car and Model) for a product review.
I'm not sure what I find more humorous, their dyno chart that shows as much power loss as gain across the band, or the picture of their product with a dryer hose hanging out of the bottom.

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Old 06-08-2004, 09:54 AM   #25
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yeah, that setup adds like 100lb or so to your trunk too, just get nos, get a larger boost of power, less weight, and probably cheaper on top of that
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