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Old 04-27-2004, 04:31 PM   #1
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i just bought a lude speed stg 2 turbo kit for my 03' 2.5 from someone who had it on a 00' would everything be the same. he didnt have all the instructions to in stall it does anyone have them, and would wireing the s-afc to the comp. be the same as the 00' as for my car
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Old 04-27-2004, 05:19 PM   #2
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Why are you using an s-AFC? didn't you get a link with it or was that only the stage 3? and is the 03 a MAP or a MAF?
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Old 04-27-2004, 05:56 PM   #3
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not sure thats why im askn
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Old 04-27-2004, 08:32 PM   #4
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The wiring for the ecu is different on the 03 than on the 00 and if I remember correctly the ludespeed stage 3 did not always come with a link ecu it depends on when you got it but I could be wrong on that
if you what the wiring diagram for the 03, pm me I'll email it to you
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Old 04-28-2004, 01:31 AM   #5
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03 should be MAP, and i thought the 00 was the first year of MAP for the RS as well???

yes i would recommend a link if you can get it.


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Old 04-28-2004, 04:36 AM   #6
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00 and up are MAP
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:19 AM   #7
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cool i didnt know, but for right know i have an s-afc, will the wireing to the ecu be the same as a 00', cause thats what i have directions for
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:28 AM   #8
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Old 04-28-2004, 07:58 PM   #9
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Ludespeed Install Instructions

That's all I know of. As for the AFC, I don't think it will work very good for you, since I think (AFAIK) your ECU will learn around the AFC's adjustments and will have to be reset regularly in order for the AFC to remain effective. You might want to look into a RRFPR with voltage clamp solution, or possibly an E-Manage, Link, etc.

good luck.
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Old 04-28-2004, 09:56 PM   #10
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hmm. thanks, i have a rrfpr but know voltage clamp. would the grready engine managemet work
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Old 04-28-2004, 11:10 PM   #11
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dont know about the greddy, but i would check and see what type of trigger info your car uses.

go feel the back of your cam sprocket for teeth, if you have two teeth, then you need wrx type engine management, or something with wrx trigger info, if you have 7 teeth, then you are in the clear to use the link plus, Emanage, and others for the old GC's

edit: if your car is a manual you most likely have the wrx triggers, if its an auto you have the old RS triggers.


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Old 04-29-2004, 06:28 PM   #12
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i just talked to forced air tech. they said thier (TMC) is far better for the 02' and up 2.5rs than the s-afc, and 3.5 -4.5 lbs of boost is the max for the newer rs's
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Old 05-02-2004, 04:44 AM   #13
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PHATsuby, so you're saying that a 2002 RS has to use WRX type engine management? I'm in the process of locating a Link Plus and if it won't work this would save me time and money
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Old 05-02-2004, 05:38 AM   #14
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if you have a manual, then yes i am almost positive you have the same trigger information as a wrx.

the wrx uses a high resolution crank sensor and a two position cam sensor.

the old RS uses a 6 position crank and 7 position cam.

so just go take the right side cover off of your cam sprocket and feel for notches, count those and see which you have.

if this is the case i would look into maybe the 44s or whatever link makes for the wrx if it uses a map sensor. i think the only reason you wouldnt be able to use something like a utec is due to not having a maf system, i thought there were other reasons but i cant think right now.

let me know what you find out!

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Old 05-02-2004, 05:46 AM   #15
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hmm this is pretty interesting now, what I don't understand is a Link Plus is universal from what I understand and the notches on my cam sprocket shouldn't matter. We are talking about Link PLus correct? I'm basing this on what I have read at the Link Electro site and talking to the professional installer up in Maryland.

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Old 05-02-2004, 06:23 AM   #16
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Please correct me if I am wrong
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Old 05-02-2004, 06:34 AM   #17
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sent you PM, am online as well.

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Old 05-02-2004, 06:41 AM   #18
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Got it, time to figure all this crap out. Well if I can't go Link Plus, then I guess Hydra or a Link for a WRX. Hmmm, but what doesn't make sense is the wiring for the WRX and RS 2002+ are different, so I will have to do all the wiring, what a PITA if this all comes to truth
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Old 05-02-2004, 07:00 AM   #19
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yea how much is the hydra going to cost?

if the hydra uses map that may be the way to go, or if the wrx link does.

how much are each of those?

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Wow after spending a couple of hours with PHATSuby, I guess 02 RSs can use a Link Plus. Thanks man

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Old 05-02-2004, 10:05 AM   #21
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ok well with the help of Benny we have proven i am misinformed on my info, the legacy manual has wrx info, but not the 2002 manual RS.


so dont worry new school RS owners, you can still use the link plus as it keeps the old style trigger info

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No it only applies to me man, screw everybody else, nobody else can buy Link Pluses, why because I need one
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