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Old 04-28-2004, 07:36 PM   #1
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Does anyone have the Automatic Sport Shift? Is this just a turbo option, new for 04? Do you like it? Is it slow to shift in manual mode? Does it down shift automatically in manual mode? Thanks.
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Old 04-28-2004, 07:49 PM   #2
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Yes it is only on the Turbo 04 baja. I love mine. It is extreamly responsive in both automatic and sportshift, so no it is not slow to shift ever. Yes it will automitacally downshift in manual mode so you don't stall the moter, but it will not upshift ever. The only thing that would be better in my mind is the 5eat sportshift in the new legacy 2.5gt turob for 05.

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Old 04-28-2004, 08:04 PM   #3
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Does anyone have the Automatic Sport Shift? Is this just a turbo option, new for 04? Do you like it? Is it slow to shift in manual mode? Does it down shift automatically in manual mode? Thanks.



Yes i have one in my 04 Baja Turbo,i think this tranny was offered in the GT legacy also.I've had no shifting problems, its not slow to shift in man shift.It does seem to shift harder in man. mode might be because i'm under heavy to hard acceleration.It will downshift for you in man. mode.I catch myself forgetting to up shift,i'm reminded by the engine revs to shift.I like the arrows on the side of the gear indicator that lets you know when you can up shift or down shift.Man. mode Comes in handy when you got to stop quickly.Driving it in auto mode the tranny shifts smoothly.I like it ,the man shift takes some getting use to.I got the auto because i've been driving a stick all my life,its time to give the left leg a break.
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Old 04-28-2004, 08:11 PM   #4
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ajbobrut, you said it better than me. I love it in my Baja. But it is a little different from the trany in the Legacy GT becuse it has a new computer so the shifting is smother in auto and it is more like a manual in sportshift mode.
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Old 04-28-2004, 09:26 PM   #5
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I traded my 2003 Baja 5 speed in for the Ď04 turbo. The manual 5 speed is junk; it has a real rubbery feel to it. You can shift faster with the auto (in the manual mode). I know everyone will tell you the autos are not as fast, woopy freaking doo, buy the STI. It took only 3000 miles on my 03 to know I was not a fan of the manual tranny. The auto will not down shift under power, it will unlock the torque converter but it will stay in 4th gear. It will only down shift to third if your speed goes under 25 mph and you have to be under 5 mph for it to go into 1st. I can see why Subaru did it this way because you can forget to down shift at times and Iím sure they didnít want you to start out in 4th. If you try to force it into 1st above 40 it will just beep beep at you. You asked so take it from some one who has had both. Now if only it was a 5 or 6 speed auto mmmmmmmmmm duffs beer.
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:51 PM   #6
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I just thought of another nice feature,whe using sport mode if you are in high gear and hit the gas to pass or what ever.The tranny doesn't go gear searching like in auto mode.I hate it in auto mode when you hit the gas and the trans goes down to first and screams your engine for a couple of seconds before it up shifts.If your using sport mode in this same situation that won't happen,so when it comes to hitten the gas i'll shift over to keep from reving the engine like that.
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:56 PM   #7
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I traded my 2003 Baja 5 speed in for the Ď04 turbo. The manual 5 speed is junk; it has a real rubbery feel to it. You can shift faster with the auto (in the manual mode). I know everyone will tell you the autos are not as fast, woopy freaking doo, buy the STI. It took only 3000 miles on my 03 to know I was not a fan of the manual tranny. The auto will not down shift under power, it will unlock the torque converter but it will stay in 4th gear. It will only down shift to third if your speed goes under 25 mph and you have to be under 5 mph for it to go into 1st. I can see why Subaru did it this way because you can forget to down shift at times and Iím sure they didnít want you to start out in 4th. If you try to force it into 1st above 40 it will just beep beep at you. You asked so take it from some one who has had both. Now if only it was a 5 or 6 speed auto mmmmmmmmmm duffs beer.

I did the same thing you did with the same trade in,but i thought the shifter felt good.I heard others say the same thing.
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Old 04-29-2004, 07:19 AM   #8
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Do you ever find yourself pushing the imaginary clutch pedal by force of habbit?

Our 5sp manual Baja is more vague than the impreza, and a longer 'stroke'. But it was ok. I too figured we might consider the turbo sport shift and act like grown adults and give up the manual. But I like manuals better in the snow, the awd just feels like its working better, or more evenly in the manuals.

Whats your MPG in the turbo Sport SHift?
WHats your MPG in the non-turbo automatic?
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Old 04-29-2004, 11:38 AM   #9
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I have been getting 20MPG in sport shift and 22 in automatic (abou 30% highway 70% city averages).

Talking about snow, the 4eat has something over the 5mt, it has the VTD system. So it sould work better in the snow than most other subarus because it is going to transfer the torque between the wheels better.

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Old 04-29-2004, 02:03 PM   #10
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The Manual Mode of the SportShift lets you control the shift points, both up and down. I use the Manual Mode when:
1) launching, cuz I can hold it in gear all the way to redline;
2) I'm in traffic where somebody is likely to dart in front of me,
cuz I can stay in the boost and right behind the next car,
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3) passing, cuz I can drop it to 3rd and hold it there to
get more boost.

The Sport Shift's Auto Mode's only advantage is in heavy traffic, to save yer foot. Generally, it doesn't go up through the gears quick enuf fer me.

The Sport Shift Manual Mode probably shifts quicker'n most of us in a manual, in terms of the actual shift "elapsed time". Almost like SMG in a bimmer.

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Old 04-30-2004, 08:53 PM   #11
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Hmmm, the system and function sounds cool. The mpg does not sound cool.
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Old 04-30-2004, 11:11 PM   #12
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I've had my 04 Baja Turbo for a month and now have 4K miles on it (I do a tad over 40,000/yr in commuting).

My first few tankfuls were running 21-22mpg. I'm now up to a consistent 22+ and expect it to be better after the next tank as I just had the Snugtop installed. That should improve the aerodynamics as the air won't be diving into the bed & slamming against the tailgate.

My driving is about 60/40 hwy/city. I drive in the left lane on the hwy

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Old 05-01-2004, 09:46 AM   #13
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Jim I just read your profile You've got a Baja for similar reasons we got ours...kids and their junk...home depot...and its more unique better on gas easier driving more comfortable and sportier than any other small truck out there!

If we did get a turbo/sportshift I would fart around with it a lot at first, to learn how to use it. Then it would be in auto mode mostly...until my wife hands me the keys
"If we get a Turbo"....Our driving consists of mostly backroad driving approx 40-55 mph 60 miles a day with 5 stop lights each way. I believe because the rpms will be consistantly lower, our mpg will be higher than whats been reported here. Sound right?

When(rpm) do you feel the turbo kick in?
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Old 05-02-2004, 07:31 PM   #14
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"If we get a Turbo"....Our driving consists of mostly backroad driving approx 40-55 mph 60 miles a day with 5 stop lights each way. I believe because the rpms will be consistantly lower, our mpg will be higher than whats been reported here. Sound right?

When(rpm) do you feel the turbo kick in?
Chris,
I definitely recommend the turbo over the stock baja. The performance difference is just amazing. The std baja is ok but the turbo is noticeably better for everything from takeoffs to hauling heavy stuff.

As for your mileage, I suspect you won't see much real difference by having the rpms running a little lower for your steady state driving. The 5 stop lights will probably eat up anything you get from driving a consistent 50ish. I've seen fairly strong data that shows 23+ mpg after about 6 or 7K miles.

I'm coming from a VW Jetta TDI where I was getting 45 mpg on diesel. Now I'm getting 1/2 that but the VW was such a PITA repairwise that I don't regret the change (over the 4 yes I owned it I spent about 1500/yr in extra maintenance --- that buys a lot of gas).

The turbo kicks in fairly quickly. The lag is more noticeable than the VW turbo but I'm fast getting used to it. It lags about 2 seconds or so from a standing stop. Other folks with boost guages etc can say exactly when it kicks in but it's pretty early.

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