Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday December 22, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Normally Aspirated Powertrain

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-29-2004, 01:53 PM   #1
DreddRS25
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 51642
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Vehicle:
2001 Impreza RS
BRP

Question Porsche engine swap

I know that Subaru and Porsche both use the Boxer engine.

I've read that some Porsches have 6 cylinder boxers. Are there any swappable Porsche to Subaru engines?

Particularily, for a MY01 RS.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
DreddRS25 is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 02:17 PM   #2
garface
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 1581
Join Date: Jun 2000
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: yonkers, ny
Vehicle:
MY00 RS/STi7
MY01 RS Both Silverthorne

Default

Quote:
some Porsches have 6 cylinder boxers
garface is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 03:39 PM   #3
Hayes
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 11808
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Cape Coral,FL
Default

Anything is possible IF you have and want to spend big money.
Hayes is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 03:39 PM   #4
Compressed
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 12271
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Colorado
Vehicle:
2012 4Runner TE
KDSS!

Default

with enough $ it could be done, but why
Compressed is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 04:30 PM   #5
Machine Age Victim
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 29961
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: my job is a hobbie to most
Vehicle:
2008 Honda Element
1975 Triumph Spitfire

Default

yes they should all be swapable if you invest the time and money, but it really wouldn't be worth spending the money on a porsche engine compared with what you could do with an STi engine, cylinder numbers don't equal HP numbers (one going up doesn't mean the other one will)

I'd rather swap an '04 STi engine into a Boxster, now your talkin'!!
Machine Age Victim is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 04:58 PM   #6
Compressed
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 12271
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Colorado
Vehicle:
2012 4Runner TE
KDSS!

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Machine Age Victim
yes they should all be swapable if you invest the time and money, but it really wouldn't be worth spending the money on a porsche engine compared with what you could do with an STi engine, cylinder numbers don't equal HP numbers (one going up doesn't mean the other one will)

I'd rather swap an '04 STi engine into a Boxster, now your talkin'!!
Totally, I didn't even bother saying that because this is a pretty clueless question to be asking.
Compressed is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 05:19 PM   #7
Handsdown
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 29355
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: seattle
Vehicle:
2003 GD6 Hate chall
but i'mma maintain

Default

i could put an SRT-4 Engine into a toyota Previa, but why would i?
Handsdown is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 05:25 PM   #8
Machine Age Victim
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 29961
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: my job is a hobbie to most
Vehicle:
2008 Honda Element
1975 Triumph Spitfire

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Handsdown
i could put an SRT-4 Engine into a toyota Previa, but why would i?
how about a SRT-10 engine into a truck.. oh wait
Machine Age Victim is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 06:43 PM   #9
DreddRS25
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 51642
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Vehicle:
2001 Impreza RS
BRP

Have a Nice Day?

Sheesh. Whoa Whoa

Boxer to Boxer people.

Are there comperable porsche boxer engines that could be swapped into my chassis?

Not a toyota freakn Previa (sheesh)
Not an Sti motor, like there aren't enough freakn threads on that one.

What if I find a cheap porsche engine thats rebuildable?



(Guess I'll just stick to my Texas peeps for intelligent answers)
DreddRS25 is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 10:10 PM   #10
Kostamojen
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 2272
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: haha XD
Vehicle:
2013 Subaru 599 :P
Galaxy Blue Sexy

Default

Its not that easy. Its like if you want to put a round peg into a square hole, it would have to be 100% custom fabrication to even get it in there, and it would be backwards too.

There are Subaru H6's availible.
Kostamojen is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 10:19 PM   #11
ms3p
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 51596
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: palatine, IL
Vehicle:
2007 G35S 6MT
2006 SV650S blue hotness

Default

Just because its boxer that does not mean they are easily swappable. Look at I4 engines for example. You can't just go swapping Celica and Accord engines.
It does NOT work like in the FATF putting Nissan engine into a Civic
ms3p is online now  
Old 04-29-2004, 10:44 PM   #12
orndog
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 34670
Join Date: Mar 2003
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Atlanta
Vehicle:
2013 No gears!
Saltine American

Default

I'm thinking he just wants to know if it's been done or if there's a kit... kinda like dropping a Chevy smallblock in a chopped Ford. I've seen kits to drop Porsche engines into VWs, smallblock Chevys into the front of Bugs too, but never for a Subaru, sorry. Now, if you got hold of an old 914 and had an Sti motor laying around...
orndog is online now  
Old 04-29-2004, 10:50 PM   #13
Handsdown
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 29355
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: seattle
Vehicle:
2003 GD6 Hate chall
but i'mma maintain

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by DreddRS25
Sheesh. Whoa Whoa

Boxer to Boxer people.

Are there comperable porsche boxer engines that could be swapped into my chassis?

Not a toyota freakn Previa (sheesh)
Not an Sti motor, like there aren't enough freakn threads on that one.

What if I find a cheap porsche engine thats rebuildable?



(Guess I'll just stick to my Texas peeps for intelligent answers)
boxer to boxer is like saying inline to inline - exactly like a previa.

the engines are entirely different, the transmission won't bolt up, the mounting points won't match up AT ALL, there might not be enough room, your speedometer won't work, your tach won't work, you would need a different cooling system...


there is too much to list.

fine.
go to your texas folk.

there's no intelligent answer to an unintelligent question.

"hey i have a Kia, i heard it has an inline engine in it, but what i really want is a BMW inline 6 engine, do you think that since they're both inline engines i could put one in?"


you'd have to custom fabricate as much, if not more, than you would have to putting an srt-4 engine into s previa.
Handsdown is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 10:51 PM   #14
Handsdown
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 29355
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: seattle
Vehicle:
2003 GD6 Hate chall
but i'mma maintain

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by orndog
I'm thinking he just wants to know if it's been done or if there's a kit... kinda like dropping a Chevy smallblock in a chopped Ford. I've seen kits to drop Porsche engines into VWs, smallblock Chevys into the front of Bugs too, but never for a Subaru, sorry. Now, if you got hold of an old 914 and had an Sti motor laying around...
there's your "intelligent" answer.
Handsdown is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 11:00 PM   #15
DreddRS25
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 51642
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Vehicle:
2001 Impreza RS
BRP

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Handsdown
there's your "intelligent" answer.
Whatever man. Probably like to listen to the keys types away.

Look it was a simple question that needed a simple answer.

Q:Are there any Porsche boxer engines (preferably 6 cylinder) that will swap into a MY01 RS?

A:No (Intelligent)

orndog and Kostmojen are the only ones here to shed some light on to this.
DreddRS25 is offline  
Old 04-29-2004, 11:55 PM   #16
1 Lucky Texan
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 46320
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Outoftheblue&intotheblack
Vehicle:
06 WRX Sportwagon
Aspen White

Default

I think, if you have the time and money, it would be a mildy interetsing intellectual exercise at best. There are better 'fun' projects around. Swapping in an H6 as mentioned, making a dual engined car (front and rear engines), an 'articulated' offroader, a true midengined soob, building a supercharged engine, building a steam powered boxer, diesel conversion, etc. There is a reason going the direction you suggest is rare, yet there are websites and numerous examples devoted to putting soob engines in places that WERE VW and Porsche - they are more reliable.
1 Lucky Texan is offline  
Old 04-30-2004, 12:31 AM   #17
Machine Age Victim
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 29961
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: my job is a hobbie to most
Vehicle:
2008 Honda Element
1975 Triumph Spitfire

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by DreddRS25
Whatever man. Probably like to listen to the keys types away.

Look it was a simple question that needed a simple answer.

Q:Are there any Porsche boxer engines (preferably 6 cylinder) that will swap into a MY01 RS?

A:No (Intelligent)

orndog and Kostmojen are the only ones here to shed some light on to this.
No is an intelligent answer? maybe in Texas

btw it's the wrong answer, it can be done

Quote:
Originally posted by DreddRS25
Are there any swappable Porsche to Subaru engines?
yes, any of them, have fun
Machine Age Victim is offline  
Old 04-30-2004, 01:40 AM   #18
Handsdown
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 29355
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: seattle
Vehicle:
2003 GD6 Hate chall
but i'mma maintain

Default

the intelligent answer is- yes, you have to custom fabricate mounts and a drivetrain that will fit the impreza body.
Handsdown is offline  
Old 04-30-2004, 10:37 AM   #19
DreddRS25
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 51642
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Vehicle:
2001 Impreza RS
BRP

Thumbs down

Quote:
Originally posted by Handsdown
the intelligent answer is- yes, you have to custom fabricate mounts and a drivetrain that will fit the impreza body.
Umm. Swappable fool. Not custom fabricated, now you and Machinehead are both dicks (handsdown). pun intended

Learning about the H6 route has been useful, thanks to those for the info.

Moderators: Please lock this thread or delete it.
DreddRS25 is offline  
Old 04-30-2004, 11:30 AM   #20
CheezeWeezle
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 17187
Join Date: Apr 2002
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Fresno, CA
Vehicle:
2009 Braun Entervan
Gimpy White

Default

You are a tard...yes this thread went the wrong direction but you have only fueled the fire and Handsdown's last post was correct. You are going to have to custom fabricate the mounts to fit into your car, there's no "kit" per say to do that kind of a swap...sheesh...They were giving you complete answers not just simple yes or no....It's never simple with a Subaru...
CheezeWeezle is offline  
Old 04-30-2004, 12:49 PM   #21
Subie Gal
GC84Ever
Super Moderator
 
Member#: 301
Join Date: Sep 1999
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: WA
Vehicle:
1970 FF-1 & '70 Van
02 WRX/01 RS

Default

closing per request of thread starter...

you guys really need to lighten up.
sometimes, believe it or not, people are seriously trying to gain knowledge and solicit information. taunting/flaming/bashing makes one hesitant to ask what some may consider 'a silly question'

if we're too intimidated to ask questions for fear of being mocked, how is anyone supposed to experiment or learn anything...


sigh....
Subie Gal is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
EJ257 into 1999 Porsche 996 swap been done? uberspeed Subaru Conversions 14 03-28-2009 09:11 PM
Porsche engine swap - SVX or WRX? soloracer Subaru Conversions 73 05-06-2004 06:42 PM
Will any high output porsche engine fit? PeterJ Subaru Conversions 5 11-23-2003 01:46 AM
suburau with porsche engine? 70hp83ftlbs Tri-State Area Forum 45 11-05-2002 09:09 PM
SVX engine = Porsche engine? Patrick Olsen General Forum Archive 16 08-18-2000 11:42 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.