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Old 05-28-2001, 03:33 AM   #1
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Question WRX Wagon vs Sedan showdown

Hi there, I've been searching the posts for info comparing the sedan vs. wagon. Aside from the xtra 20MM track on the sedan and the extra 80lbs of pork on the wagon, are there other major performance differences? I saw 5.7 sec to 60 (saloon) vs 5.9 sec (wagon), but no slalom times or other more meaningful figures. The utility of the wagon is tempting, but the sedan imho looks pretty cool.

Anywho, I was thinking the wagon might have superior rigidity (though I have read otherwise at http://www.hotboards.com/plus/plus.m...65754450028120 I haven't seen any hard facts... ) and the extra 80 lbs might actually be in the right places (to counterbalance the headheavy engine/tranny up front). I plan on autox'ing and doing some light rallying, so maybe 80lbs is too much of a penalty for cargo space...

Anyways, this is one of those "good" dilemnas since both bodies kick ass. Carlsen in Redwood City has the exact sedan I want, they're asking for 6% over invoice.
I dunno... you guys are the owners/experts, so thanks for your thoughts.
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Old 05-28-2001, 10:50 AM   #2
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Old 05-28-2001, 01:02 PM   #3
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Ah, there it is... I think I might go for the sedan, if only for the quieter ride (a nice plus for a daily driver.) I guess I'll need to get a huge Yakima Basketcase or something to carry the track tires. It's too bad we can't get the wagon's beefy rails on the sedan

Thanks for the info, Necro.
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Old 05-29-2001, 01:16 AM   #4
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Carbon,

Here's some thoughts from a wagon owner. Keep in mind I have not driven a sedan, I'm simply looking at the "differences" people are reporting. On cabin noise, I don't think you could call the wagon loud by any means. My 2000 GTI VR6 was much louder stock actually...and we won't discuss what happened after the Techtonics catback. And my '93 Eclipse GSX was a rattletrap in comparison. I don't find there to be any noise problems with the wagon at all.

Someone mentioned being able to put rear deck speakers in the sedan as a plus. I ordered the upgraded sound system, and while not awesome, it certainly suits my needs for now as I would rather spend my money under the hood.

I do notice in comparison to my GSX, the wagon is a bit tail happy. While driving it on dirt roads, I could lift throttle in a turn and get the back end out, then mash the gas and it would take off wherever I was pointing it. My GSX took to dirt roads much better...the suspension was a little stiff, but the back end stayed put at least. However, I don't consider that to be a bad thing for the wagon...in fact it makes the off-road experience a little more exciting.

Not to mention I recently moved several boxes in the wagon...just dropped the seats down (they fold right down, much easier than the GTI, having to fold the seat bottoms up and then fold the backs down) and everything fit in there with room to spare. I can only imagine the frustrations sedan owners must have with large packages, considering the seats don't fold down

I have no complaints about my wagon. None. I just went over 2800 miles today (took delivery with 9) and have had the car for 18 days. I've loved every one of those miles.

I went against my drag racing morals and bought the heavier car (wagon being 80 lbs more)...but I really don't think it makes much difference at all.

I've been able to run even with LT1 Camaro Z28's, beat a '96 Saleen S281, and smoke a whole mess of other cars I would have expected to hang better than they did.

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Old 05-30-2001, 05:09 AM   #5
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Ahhg, can't... decide!

I've been seeing people in WRX wagons tearing up autocross tracks, though I've heard the sedan has slightly stiffer suspension. Since they're winning their classes, I'm assuming the wagon has fine performance. (Apparently, it has lower aerodynamic drag (near bottom of discussion): http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/001187.html but I won't go there)

And it would be great for Tahoe...

If only the stinkin' dealerships [Carlson in the bay area] would let us testdrive... Maybe I'll take an RS wagon and sedan out for a spin just to get a better idea. Thanks for your thoughts, and happy motorin'
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Old 05-31-2001, 10:05 AM   #6
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lasts month issue of car magazine said that both the sedan and wagon have the same body stiffness. Im guessing they are talking about torsional.
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Old 05-31-2001, 02:40 PM   #7
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Ooh, good point, I was actually just going to ask someone to define "stiffer ride". Does that refer to spring rate/rollbar stiffness/shock valving or actual chassis torsional/bending rigidity? Wagon has the extra box at the end (*all other things equal* wagons are usually stiffer than sedans), but the WRX sedan has fixed seats which acts as a sort of brace between the bottoms of the c-pillars. Sounds like a crapshoot if we don't have figures from Subie.
Anyways, both cars are pretty much monolithic blocks of granite, so maybe it doesn't matter too much.
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Old 05-31-2001, 03:01 PM   #8
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Ask yourself this:

1)
Is the WRX going to be quicker, better cornering, and more fun than brand X?

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Will the choice of WRX wagon or sedan make a bit of difference in your answer to question #1?

My Answer #1 : probably, unless you spent a lot more money on brand X.

My Answer #2 : Nope.

I think the choice comes down to personal preference. Which do you see yourself in. For me, I liked the idea of the wagon. It's more useful for me. Since I go camping a bit, I might as well take some more gear.

The reason I bought a WRX in the first place was to get a sports car/family car/daily driver that does fantastic everywhere I drive -- at a reasonable price. The wagon aspect just adds to its overall utility in my opinion.

If I wanted a fast car and nothing else, I'd get a Mustaro.
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