My First Autox

TTUsuby · 05-04-2004, 11:41 PM

I just participated in my first autox ever on saturday. I had an amazing time. I had no idea how much fun it would be. I think that I improved significantly throughout the day. The first runs I had were low 22's and high 21's, but by the end of the night I was running consistent mid to low 19's with a best of 19.24. The course was small and very tight, but a whole lot of fun. The best part is that I could not even tell you how many runs I had. After everyone did their initial 3 runs, it was free-for-all. I would run the course then get right back in line.

Before this experience, I was planning on putting as much power into the RS as I could on my budget, but now I am going to be spending money on suspension and leave the engine for later. My car is pretty much stock right now except for a catback, but that will change very shortly. Any suggestions on what kind of suspension upgrades would be greatly appreciated. I kind of have an idea of a few parts that I want to get right now. I know that I need different tires. I think that is what kept me out of the 18's this saturday. Anyways, here are a couple of pics. Only one of me standing still because my friend that I asked to take the pictures didn't know when to push the button.

This is me with an STi behind me. The M2 in the background ran the best time with a 17.32.

Here is that STi again. He did really well. I think that his best was a high 17.

Here is the STi in action.

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afpdl · 05-05-2004, 12:13 AM

17 sec runs

Thats got to be the shortes autox course Ive ever heard of.

Glad you had fun, try not to get carried away with mods as alot who start autoxing do, just work on driving first.

Crash477 · 05-05-2004, 12:36 AM

Im looking at the COBB Stage 1 Suspension Package, you should check it out, its really nice, and not bad priced.

AllSeven · 05-05-2004, 12:56 AM

i just did mine best run 47 day add. was 53 first time out i was owning and i ahev no clue whats going on, me and criag (roninsti) are going to go to every event now lol

afpdl · 05-05-2004, 12:58 AM

BTW whats an M2?

skuttledude · 05-05-2004, 08:24 AM

Invest in seat time, not mods (yet).

Just my .05

555ideways · 05-05-2004, 10:14 AM

agreed. seat time will make you faster than a lot of mods. but if yah got the money - why not. it can be just as fun. welcome to the club.

TTUsuby · 05-05-2004, 10:41 AM

An M2 is a second gen miata. And I do have the money, which is why I want to start doing suspension mods. I was going to get a turbo kit, but after the autox I just wanted to get suspension parts. I did look at the COBB sus. pack. stage 1 and I like it, but I think that I am going to buy everything piece by piece. And yes, it was a very short track, but there was hardly any room. I don't think that the track could have been set up any better to make up for the lack of space.

Thanks for the responses.

NeoteriX · 05-05-2004, 11:32 AM

Speaking of which, my first real autox run was this past weekend too, Houston SCCA. When the heck are they gonna post the results online?

leecea · 05-05-2004, 11:38 AM

There are two ways to go at this.

One is to do the mods you want, have tons of fun, and not worry too much about what class you end up in.

The other is to pick a class - maybe one for now and one to aim for later - then structure your mods to maximize perfromance in that class.

In both cases, seat time and tires will be the biggest win.

Most likely, if you stick with autox, you will find yourself wanting to win and classing will become important to you. In our area, STS is very popular for the 2.5RS. You can do a lot of cool stuff and run in that class. Check some lists for allowed mods.

TyrannoSullyRex · 05-05-2004, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NeoteriX
Speaking of which, my first real autox run was this past weekend too, Houston SCCA. When the heck are they gonna post the results online?

I don't know. I instructed you BTW, you did alright, didn't try to overdrive it like lots of folks tend to do.

afpdl · 05-05-2004, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TTUsuby
An M2 is a second gen miata. And I do have the money, which is why I want to start doing suspension mods. I was going to get a turbo kit, but after the autox I just wanted to get suspension parts. I did look at the COBB sus. pack. stage 1 and I like it, but I think that I am going to buy everything piece by piece. And yes, it was a very short track, but there was hardly any room. I don't think that the track could have been set up any better to make up for the lack of space.

Thanks for the responses.

I understand but if you get some suspension work now and then later get really serious about it you will probably end up selling what you bought for different stuff that works better in autox.

If its just somthing you want for daily driving too and you dont ever plan to get really competitive in autox then thats fine.

Fred · 05-05-2004, 05:02 PM

Starting with a stock 2.5RS, here's what you "need" to do to the car to be capable of beating 99% of the other people in STS (and in the overall PAX-indexed rankings):

Falken Azenis 205/55/16 on stock wheels.

Decent struts - Koni inserts are GREAT, KYB AGXes are good, too.

20mm rear sway bar.

A CG-lock or cinch-down-type lap belt.

That's it. Good tires, well-controlled/neutral suspension, and something to hold you in place while you rip up the course. I have two RSes - one that's set up pretty well for STS with stiffer suspension & one that's daily driver/ rallxer. They drive like two totally different cars, but as for autox times, I guarantee you there's less than a second between them on a 60-sec course -- and I'm going to test that theory at the next autox.

leecea · 05-05-2004, 05:21 PM

Quote:

A CG-lock or cinch-down-type lap belt.

On my car I pull the belt super tight with my left hand and hold it like that. Then I use my right hand to pull out slack at the shoulder and let it snap back in. Usually it will lock the whole belt after a few tries and I'm held very tightly in place. The other method is a quick jerk on the shoulder strap to lock the belt, but that doesn't hold me nearly as well.

DonA · 05-05-2004, 05:56 PM

If you buckle up like normal then continue to slowly pull the belt all the way out you till the end then slowly release you will hear it make a click click click (Ratchet type sound) ...pull excess slack out of lap portion and it will hold good & tight

afpdl · 05-05-2004, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonA
If you buckle up like normal then continue to slowly pull the belt all the way out you will hear it make a click click click (Ratchet type sound) then release...pull excess slack out of lap portion and it will hold good & tight

My car only does that on every belt but the drivers

DonA · 05-05-2004, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by afpdl
My car only does that on every belt but the drivers

humm I just tryed it in my STi and it does not work either?

Used to do it in my Toyota all the time

I think this feature is for Child car seats and I guess you would never need to put one in the drivers seat

afpdl · 05-05-2004, 06:08 PM

Yeah, maybe toyota just uses one part for all the seats.

dowroa · 05-07-2004, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fred
Starting with a stock 2.5RS, here's what you "need" to do to the car to be capable of beating 99% of the other people in STS (and in the overall PAX-indexed rankings):

Falken Azenis 205/55/16 on stock wheels.

Decent struts - Koni inserts are GREAT, KYB AGXes are good, too.

20mm rear sway bar.

A CG-lock or cinch-down-type lap belt.

That's it. Good tires, well-controlled/neutral suspension, and something to hold you in place while you rip up the course. I have two RSes - one that's set up pretty well for STS with stiffer suspension & one that's daily driver/ rallxer. They drive like two totally different cars, but as for autox times, I guarantee you there's less than a second between them on a 60-sec course -- and I'm going to test that theory at the next autox.

Looks like TOM and WHIPPLE are going to get a cake walk then

Good luck

wrx2.0 555 · 05-07-2004, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by afpdl
17 sec runs Thats got to be the shortes autox course Ive ever heard of.

I've got one more for ya.

There was a huge car show/sound off/auto-x in daytona a few months back and several of our locals went down. I was planning on it and was quite disappointed I wasnt able to go UNTIL I found out that it was a 14-15 second course

Needless to say, I wasnt very dissappointed anymore.

Fred · 05-07-2004, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Looks like TOM and WHIPPLE are going to get a cake walk then

I'm bringing both cars & driving the blue one for fun runs (hopefully we'll have fun runs). Christine will drive the blue one for regular runs.

DonA · 05-07-2004, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wrx2.0 555
I've got one more for ya.

There was a huge car show/sound off/auto-x in daytona a few months back and several of our locals went down. I was planning on it and was quite disappointed I wasnt able to go UNTIL I found out that it was a 14-15 second course

Needless to say, I wasnt very dissappointed anymore.

How many turns did this course have 4?

D_REX · 05-07-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TyrannoSullyRex
I don't know. I instructed you BTW, you did alright, didn't try to overdrive it like lots of folks tend to do.

Hey!!! I resemble that remark

NeoteriX · 05-08-2004, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TyrannoSullyRex
I don't know. I instructed you BTW, you did alright, didn't try to overdrive it like lots of folks tend to do.

Thanks.

(That's code for: You suck at putting down the loud pedal)

05-04-2004, 11:41 PM	#1
TTUsuby Scooby Newbie Member#: 55403 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: ATX Vehicle: 1999 AW 2.5RS	My First Autox I just participated in my first autox ever on saturday. I had an amazing time. I had no idea how much fun it would be. I think that I improved significantly throughout the day. The first runs I had were low 22's and high 21's, but by the end of the night I was running consistent mid to low 19's with a best of 19.24. The course was small and very tight, but a whole lot of fun. The best part is that I could not even tell you how many runs I had. After everyone did their initial 3 runs, it was free-for-all. I would run the course then get right back in line. Before this experience, I was planning on putting as much power into the RS as I could on my budget, but now I am going to be spending money on suspension and leave the engine for later. My car is pretty much stock right now except for a catback, but that will change very shortly. Any suggestions on what kind of suspension upgrades would be greatly appreciated. I kind of have an idea of a few parts that I want to get right now. I know that I need different tires. I think that is what kept me out of the 18's this saturday. Anyways, here are a couple of pics. Only one of me standing still because my friend that I asked to take the pictures didn't know when to push the button. This is me with an STi behind me. The M2 in the background ran the best time with a 17.32. Here is that STi again. He did really well. I think that his best was a high 17. Here is the STi in action. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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afpdl Scooby Guru Member#: 26361 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Sugar Land (Houston), Tx Vehicle: My shenanigans are cheeky and fun	17 sec runs Thats got to be the shortes autox course Ive ever heard of. Glad you had fun, try not to get carried away with mods as alot who start autoxing do, just work on driving first.

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AllSeven Scooby Specialist Member#: 32798 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CT, south side windsor	i just did mine best run 47 day add. was 53 first time out i was owning and i ahev no clue whats going on, me and criag (roninsti) are going to go to every event now lol

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afpdl Scooby Guru Member#: 26361 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Sugar Land (Houston), Tx Vehicle: My shenanigans are cheeky and fun	BTW whats an M2?

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skuttledude Scooby Specialist Member#: 738 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Southern Ohio USA Vehicle: 2008 Lexus IS-F Ducati Monster 800	Invest in seat time, not mods (yet). Just my .05

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555ideways Scooby Specialist Member#: 36652 Join Date: May 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC	agreed. seat time will make you faster than a lot of mods. but if yah got the money - why not. it can be just as fun. welcome to the club.

05-05-2004, 10:41 AM	#8
TTUsuby Scooby Newbie Member#: 55403 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: ATX Vehicle: 1999 AW 2.5RS	An M2 is a second gen miata. And I do have the money, which is why I want to start doing suspension mods. I was going to get a turbo kit, but after the autox I just wanted to get suspension parts. I did look at the COBB sus. pack. stage 1 and I like it, but I think that I am going to buy everything piece by piece. And yes, it was a very short track, but there was hardly any room. I don't think that the track could have been set up any better to make up for the lack of space. Thanks for the responses.

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NeoteriX Scooby Specialist Member#: 20999 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: NJ Vehicle: 2002 PSM WRX Stg 2 knee - Aw - teh - rix	Speaking of which, my first real autox run was this past weekend too, Houston SCCA. When the heck are they gonna post the results online?

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leecea Scooby Guru Member#: 37359 Join Date: May 2003 Vehicle: 2003 WRX	There are two ways to go at this. One is to do the mods you want, have tons of fun, and not worry too much about what class you end up in. The other is to pick a class - maybe one for now and one to aim for later - then structure your mods to maximize perfromance in that class. In both cases, seat time and tires will be the biggest win. Most likely, if you stick with autox, you will find yourself wanting to win and classing will become important to you. In our area, STS is very popular for the 2.5RS. You can do a lot of cool stuff and run in that class. Check some lists for allowed mods.

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05-05-2004, 05:56 PM	#15
DonA Scooby Specialist Member#: 355 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Jersey Shore Vehicle: 08' VW Touareg II Alaska Grey	If you buckle up like normal then continue to slowly pull the belt all the way out you till the end then slowly release you will hear it make a click click click (Ratchet type sound) ...pull excess slack out of lap portion and it will hold good & tight

05-05-2004, 06:08 PM	#18
afpdl Scooby Guru Member#: 26361 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Sugar Land (Houston), Tx Vehicle: My shenanigans are cheeky and fun	Yeah, maybe toyota just uses one part for all the seats.