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Old 05-06-2004, 12:52 AM   #1
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Question Ducati or not Ducati?

I found my bike! It's a used 2002 Ducati Monster 620ie Dark. 350 miles and some very very slight scratches on the exhaust. the price is right and the feel is right...but I've heard and read everywhere that I shouldn't get a Ducati for a first bike!

Why is this? the price is 'too low to print'! In other words it's a steal, I mean it only has 350 miles on it. Other new bikes that have been suggested to me are $3-4K more.

Anyway, I need to find out why it's a 'bad idea' by the weekend.

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Old 05-06-2004, 12:54 AM   #2
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Is it your first bike? That would be the only reason it's a bad idea.
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Old 05-06-2004, 12:57 AM   #3
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not Ducati
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Old 05-06-2004, 12:57 AM   #4
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I had a '99 Monster 750 Dark as my first bike. It was a great first bike, other than people trying to steal it. Low seat height, quick handling, enough power to be fun, but no enough to really scare you, etc. Just be ready for the maintenance. Unlike a Japanese bike, the Ducati will need attention.

I now have a Honda Superhawk.

I want the Ducati back.
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Old 05-06-2004, 01:01 AM   #5
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My first and only bike was a ducati 748. Only street bike I have ever ridden. It was real cool and wicked fast. although the repairs after I dropped it were a little much.
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Old 05-06-2004, 01:17 AM   #6
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Not ducati, unless you're a good motorcylcle mechanic and like to do your own work....otherwise it's a maintenance money pit. They are tempermental for sure.

I've never owned one but talked to several who have.
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Old 05-06-2004, 08:41 AM   #7
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Have a Nice Day?

So if it was my first bike its bad, but if it's my second bike it's good. WHY?

Lots of maintenance? Like what? My Subaru has been a lot of maintenance including head gasket. So what are we talking about here?

Thanks for the mixed replies, I'm leaning towards getting it.

Peace,
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Old 05-06-2004, 08:49 AM   #8
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Reliable or cheap transport? No.

If you have a garage, tools, mechanical inclination, time to tinker, patience to wait for (expensive) spares to arrive from far away etc...

Definately Ducati. So many smiles per gallon
Just don't park it anywhere.
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Old 05-06-2004, 08:50 AM   #9
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If you don't mind fixing and maintaining it all the time, it's an excellent choice.
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Old 05-06-2004, 09:04 AM   #10
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I too am considering a Monster. I test drove one in 1999 and loved it.

Quality looks good to me. Exactly what kind of issues do Ducatis have? I know the older ones might be trouble prone, but what about the newer ones?
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Old 05-06-2004, 10:10 AM   #11
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F*** it. Get the Ducati, you only live once. If it turns out to be too much of a hassle, sell it. Won't be the end of the world.
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Old 05-06-2004, 10:10 AM   #12
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the only thing you need to take into account when buying the Duc is maintenance costs. If you have the budget to bring it to your dealer for expensive valve adjustments etc then get the Duc.

Nice bike and that simple.
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Old 05-06-2004, 10:20 AM   #13
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I know a guy that has been buying and selling sport bikes for over 35 years. He said buying a ducatti like buying a ferrari. They are expensive, expensive to maintain, and they like the higher speeds and not stop and go traffic like in my areas. He also said most people will never ride it to its full potential.
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Old 05-06-2004, 10:23 AM   #14
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My first and only bike was a ducati 748. Only street bike I have ever ridden. It was real cool and wicked fast. although the repairs after I dropped it were a little much.
Ditto here. My first bike was a Ducati 748 with an 853 BB kit on it... Needless to say I wrecked it.. and replaced it with a 2001 748. Great bike fun to ride.. but def. not a first bike. You break something on it and it's not only expensive to repair... but you may be waiting for the part from Italy if no one has it.
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Old 05-06-2004, 10:53 AM   #15
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make sure it's not a salvage title.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:55 AM   #16
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I guess I don't understand where everyone is coming from with all of the negative maintenance and reliability comments. They are not like 1960s Brit bikes that had to be torn down and rebuilt every 2000 miles.

The only problems I ever had with mine was the fuel petcock (sounds so dirty ) going bad and the dealer misdiagnosing the problem 4 times before if finally got fixed and a fork seal leaking. The petcock is a very rare problem, hence the misdiagnosis. The fork seal was torn by a rock chip. This would have happened on any bike I could have been riding at the time that has an inverted fork like the Monster.

Both were expensive to repair, but as AWDiMPREZARS said, owning a Ducati is like owning a Ferrari. Sure, you pay more, but you are getting very good parts and highly trained, specialized mechanics. I had a light bulb go out on my bike. When I called the dealer, they sent a guy in their shop truck 30 miles to install the bulb. They didn't charge me for the trip, the bulb, or the installation. When the fork seal blew, they sent a flatbed to pick it up, free of charge.

I think where Ducati gets its bad name is the more frequent valve adjustments. This is due to the Desmodromic valve system, which is one of the allures of the Ducati. If you keep up with the scheduled maintenance and take care of the bike, you should not have any problems. I bought mine used with about 6,000 miles on it, so I was unsure of its maintenance history. I am sure that is where my problem came.

He is talking about getting a Monster 620 i.e. which is Ducati's entry level bike. He is not going out and getting a 999 R for his first bike. This is no worse a first bike than an SV650, ridewise.

The Monster is a very fun, very ridable, and comfortable bike. They sound amazing with aftermarket pipes. They get looks where ever you go. People always ask you about your Ducati. As I said, I loved mine but wanted something bigger and faster. Now I just want my Ducati back...

I say get it, keep on top of the required maintenance, park it in a safe place (especially at night) and enjoy it!
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Old 05-06-2004, 12:25 PM   #17
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[b]I think where Ducati gets its bad name is the more frequent valve adjustments. This is due to the Desmodromic valve system, which is one of the allures of the Ducati.B]
This is 100% true. Most people have no clue as to why Ducati's require more service, they just know it has to happen.

Here is more information on the desmodromic system: http://www.ducati.com/bikes/techcafe...part=technical

Here is another great site to learn a lot about Ducati's (Nasioc for Monsters): http://www.ducatimonster.org/


That is a sweet bike, and if you can get it at a great price...you shouldn't even be thinking twice about it. <---happy S4R owner
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Old 05-06-2004, 12:41 PM   #18
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S4R...
bastage that's what I wanted...
I had to settle for a 94 m900.
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Old 05-06-2004, 12:42 PM   #19
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Let me be the first to say:
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Old 05-06-2004, 12:54 PM   #20
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S4R...
bastage that's what I wanted...
I had to settle for a 94 m900.
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I wouldn't consider that settling. Still a great engine.
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Old 05-06-2004, 01:06 PM   #21
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Get it. be careful, and I'd suggest giving the electrical system a good once over. that's where I had the most problems, but i was in a hot and humid environment and the bike was stored for about a year.

As always, take it easy to start and find out what your limits are. Happy riding.
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Old 05-06-2004, 02:10 PM   #22
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I wouldn't consider that settling. Still a great engine.
I agree it's a great bike, just not the same, it's like comparing an ss to a 999, both great bikes, just not the same.
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Old 05-06-2004, 02:16 PM   #23
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you got one, eh A-ron?! Let's go riding soon!


And yeah, Monster 620 is actually much slower than an SV650...so the power issue isn't a problem.

But SubEd had things wrong with his Duc after just a year, and it had nothing to do with valves.
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Very true. Are you on the monster board?
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How do the 750s Monsters rate?

I am not looking to race Hayabusas or R1s, I jsut want a fun bike. It would be nice to be able to pick the front wheel up once in a while, but beyond that I want something more for fun...

Do the 750s compare well? I am used to owning various makes of foreign and doemstic crusier bikes. I want something different now.
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