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Old 05-22-2000, 10:25 PM   #1
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Post TEC II Update. Thoughts on NA TEC II Kit installation.

I just got back from Shiv's. We have installed the ALL NEW NA TEC II Kit on my car. Installation took about 2 hours and thats with pizza, lots of talking and lots beverages. The actual install is a snap. Anyone can do it. Everything just plugs in. Here is a list of things you have to do to have a NA TEC II kit installed on your car:

1. Mount the TEC unit on the firewall (2 holes are required to be drilled)
2. Cut one of the coolant lines in half and install a T in there with an already installed water temp sensor.
3. Install an air intake temperature sensor into your intake pipe.
4. Remove your existing TPS (2 bolts) and install a supplied bolt in TPS.
5. Remove your front O2 sensor and install a supplied bolt in 02 sensor.
6. Install supplied MAP sensor.
7. Run all the wires nice and clean.
8. Install plug wires.
9. Run a COM port cable into the cabin.
10. Install the new crank pulley and timing pick up mechanism. (complete bolt on)

Thats it! Very simple. Most people probably won't even refer to the pictorized instructions that we have done. It is THAT simple.

I cannot comment on the performance on the kit yet, as we are still tunning it. We will have results in about a week. I hope for some good HP increase.

Seriously, guys, I have never though that a engine management system installation could be that easy. I will tell you, I was a bit sceptical before, but not anymore. God, it was easier than a AFC installation. Probably the hardest part was running the wires, LOL.

Anyways, Josh can back me up on this one. He was there also.

I will keep you updated...
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Old 05-22-2000, 10:31 PM   #2
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Great news!

Looking forward to the full NA review. Keep us posted!

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Old 05-22-2000, 10:34 PM   #3
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So.. Where are the pics?
Are you planning on doing a dyno run to tune the Mountain Fighter?

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Old 05-22-2000, 10:47 PM   #4
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To be fair, we're still waiting on a couple of system components so real tuning is put on hold for now. Hopefully, everything will be in by the end of the week. Then, maybe Alex can post up the installation pics and give his impression of the system's performance. Right now, I'm just happy that the TEC-II fit on the firewall with that STi strut tower brace

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Old 05-22-2000, 11:04 PM   #5
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So, what did you guys use as a rust preventative in the areas that you drilled?

Shiv: How are you planning on selling the kit? Will you do everything yourself or will selling the kit go through various dealers?

(Man, I'm starting to sound like a newbie with all the questions. )
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Old 05-23-2000, 12:46 AM   #6
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That's funny. I was joking to Alex and Josh earlier today that the kits should include a little bottle of touch-up paint for rust protection

As for distribution of the PEMS (Parallel Engine Management System-- patent pending), I've decided to handle everything myself for the time being. At least until the ball gets rolling. After that, I hope to sell the kits through select vendors I could trust to give good support and tuning advice.

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Old 05-23-2000, 06:48 AM   #7
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Do you ahve to be a rocket Scientist to tune the car with the TEC II????
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Old 05-23-2000, 10:00 AM   #8
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How about a few pictures of your install as well? Can't wait to hear about the tuned product...

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Old 05-23-2000, 10:20 AM   #9
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awd, I think shiv (and others) have answered the tuning question in previous posts.

The answer is no, you don't have to be a rocket scientist. The more you know about how modern piston engines work, the better. The more you know about electronic fuel injection, the better. If you know nothing about either... then you should learn or plan on someone else tuning it for you.

If you're thinking about this kit, now would be a good time to start reading up and gaining background knowledge, whether or not you ultimately tune it yourself.
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Old 05-23-2000, 11:11 AM   #10
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Colin,
I think awd was being sarcastic with his comment. Another reference to the now infamous Byron. Personally, I thought it was pretty funny.
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Old 05-23-2000, 11:23 AM   #11
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Yeah I thought he was maybe referencing that thread, damm that was funny. lol for anyone who hasnt seen it, look it up.

However, in one of those posts Byron said that the ACT pressure plate is too strong. For obvious reasons I take anything from him with a grain of salt, but is their any danger in having a pressure plate be too strong.

If you are wondering why I want to know so badly check out my post on diversified's process and what im thinking of doing with my ACT clutch and primitive flywheel.

Thanks,

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Old 05-23-2000, 09:09 PM   #12
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Shiv,
Can you give us a fairly decent timeframe as to when we can expect to purchase your kit? Please don't do a Minnam or JC number on us. If you think the kit will be available in 6 months just say so, if it's going to take longer, fine. Just don't beat around the bush. Actually, I hope the kit won't be available for at 6 months to give me time to save money.
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Old 05-23-2000, 09:43 PM   #13
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It should be ready very very soon. But before I give an ETA, I really want to finish tuning and testing Imprezer's car. I'm curious to see if the NA results are as I expect them to be. If it is, then it's full steam ahead. If not, it's back to the drawing board. I'll keep the list updated. The last thing I want to do is sell a $2000 frill.

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Old 05-23-2000, 09:49 PM   #14
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hey guys,

yes i was there, and yes it is as simple as alex is saying.

revision
we really did talk about water and how to keep it off the unit. they used rubber gaskets for the time being(we ARE in Cali), but shiv thought the touchup paint was a good idea. i would bet he includes some down the road.

the install looks soooo clean. you guys are going to drool when you see the pics. it even fits behind the sti carbon fiber strut tower brace!

josh

PS shiv is doing a REALLY good job with this kit. well thought out, and well put together. be excited!
 
Old 05-23-2000, 10:13 PM   #15
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great. if it works out i can fork out another 2k for my ****ty car. maybe get rid of my black filth infested weapon*r filter or my rusting spo piping...finally :0
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Old 05-24-2000, 12:01 AM   #16
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Hey Shiv any chance of a lighter crank pulley included in the kit compared to running the modified stock one? I would hate to consider this kit and throw away an UR pulley to return to a stock pulley for it since alot of owners have them.
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Old 05-24-2000, 12:26 AM   #17
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Rich, no problem with running a UR pulley. In fact, it's easier to machine. I am, however, a little hesitant of running one in a high hp/hp rpm application. While I've heard the story that the flat four is inherently balanced, yadda yadda yadda, it's a chance I don't want to take. Besides, with 300-odd hp, I don't think anyone will miss the effects of a UR pulley.

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Old 05-24-2000, 06:22 AM   #18
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Don't forget, a laptop is required to tune the TekII.. right?
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Old 05-24-2000, 08:33 AM   #19
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Imprezer,

Did you change you air intake? Exhaust? I'm curious as to how much power increase will the TECII make with stock tubing and stock exhaust. I'm guessing it is minimal considering air intake and exhaust combination will increase output by 20HP.
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Old 05-24-2000, 10:58 AM   #20
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I have intake, exhaust and header.
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Old 05-24-2000, 01:43 PM   #21
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Shiv,

Are you coming out with an n/a TEC II kit first or will the kit be adaptable for both n/a and t/c? If not, when can we expect a TEC II t/c kit? Will they cost about the same?
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Old 05-24-2000, 02:02 PM   #22
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The na and turbo TEC-II kits are essentially the same thing. To upgrade from na to turbo kit, you will need to add a few knick-knacks (boost controller, knock sensor mic, 550cc injectors & rail adapter). It'll cost an extra $500 or so. More info later...

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Old 05-24-2000, 02:04 PM   #23
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Shiv can you do a write up on itin scc us N/a guys sort of got jipped when you cought the turbo bug after only one stry of bolt ons... not that i blame you
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Old 05-25-2000, 09:25 PM   #24
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Will be interested to see N/A results!!

I'm glad to see it will be easy to upgrade for turbo!!

shiv: Does the TecII have any issues with cold winters (I live in Canada Brrrr) I donít want to give up all that sliding around(good practice)

keep up the good work
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Old 05-25-2000, 09:39 PM   #25
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Shiv I agree it would be nice to see the write up done in SCC. Then again it would be nice to see SCC. Any thoughts on the HKS car and their build-up? Now that you have your car, the HKS car is running, the ASR guys have a turbo, there are a couple JC Sports guys, more then a few Minnam owners, Alex's N/A car and a slew of others is there a way for you to test them all. Kind of like a RS shootout?
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