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Old 05-17-2000, 08:45 PM   #1
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Post Wider is better-- fender flares?

Hi guys,

The owner of the body shop (Kee's Auto Body of Concord, CA) that fixed SCC's project RX-7 after last year's Big O crash is thinking about getting involved in the automotive aftermarket. Namely body kits and such. He's artistic, very talented and extremely competent. He's also the guy who filled-in the integrated lisence plate holder in the RX-7's front MY99 Japan-spec bumper. He did a great job.

So... I've been trying to talk him into making a "wide body" kit of some sorts for the Impreza which would not only look trick but also allow us to use wider wheels/tires and have a wider track. However, I don't want him to take the time to do it if I'm the only one who would be interested in it. Now, now... no one is taking orders here. He's just trying to get an idea of commercial viability. I will forward all the responses to him and he can decide from there.

This is not going to be a 22B body kit duplicate (quarter panels with front and rear bumper). That would be too expensive and require to much work for the installer (cut c-pillars, welding, painting, fitting, etc.,) Instead, we're thinking about 4, well-integrated, stylized, pre-painted, bolt-on fender flares. Installation will take a body shop approx 3 hours and will requires some cutting of the stock fenders. The fender mods are irreversable short of buying new fenders. The challenge is to not make the bolt-on fenders look clean and agressive-- not hokey. But I have trust in him and am willing to volunteering my car for the prototype surgery. Once done, the goal is to acheive good looks and 22B-like track dimensions (235mm wide tires, different wheel offset and perhaps a thin rear wheel spacer). To get an idea of what fender flares look like, check out the rear quarter panels of the EVO VI.

Cost for all four fenders: ~$700

They will be sold through Kee's Auto Body, FWIW.

Anyone?
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Old 05-17-2000, 08:57 PM   #2
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For $700, I would definitely consider. Sounds like a good deal.
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Old 05-17-2000, 09:05 PM   #3
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I cross-posted this on both the general and tech forum. I guess we should pick one and go on from there

Let's continue this thread on the other forum.

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Old 05-17-2000, 09:59 PM   #4
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After bottoming out couple of times my front fenders desperately scream now "WIDER IS BETTER".

I am in.
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Old 05-17-2000, 10:06 PM   #5
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For 700 thats definitely something I'd like for my car!
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Old 05-17-2000, 11:10 PM   #6
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Hey for 700 bucks
i am in........for the looks and the handling
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Old 05-18-2000, 12:51 AM   #7
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For $700?...I will be the second one to do it..But will there be 4Dr model too?
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Old 05-18-2000, 07:31 AM   #8
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I'd be in, if not just to bastardize my Outback Sport further...
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Old 05-18-2000, 09:42 AM   #9
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Shiv,

$700 would be a great price point considering the $$ required to complete the job.

Keep us posted.

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Old 05-18-2000, 01:53 PM   #10
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I hear ya Imprezer. With the stock fenders, tire size choice is very limted. 205-55-16 is too much sidewall. 215-40-17 is silly looking and too low of a profile. And 205-50-17 rubs like crazy up front (even with a 3mm wheel spacer and a rolled fenders!) It's so bad, in fact, that my fenders are visably tweaked from getting pounded by the tire during hard cornering. My end goal is to be able to safely run 235-45-17 all around, on 17x8.5" wheels with an appropriate offset. Members of the UK 22B mailing list have told me that the only real geometric difference between the 22B and the regular Impreza is wheel width and offset. Good to hear.

Earlier today, I dropped in on Kee and told him that many were interested in the flares. It's a go. Prototype design starts next week!! I'll keep the list posted on progress. When complete, I'll take pictures and put them on-line somewhere.

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Old 05-18-2000, 05:50 PM   #11
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$700 for the fender flares? Sounds very good to me. Now, what class would that put me in for autocrossing? I have a feeling I will be leaving G-Stock for next year.
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Old 05-18-2000, 08:12 PM   #12
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Shiv,
Wouldn't using a wheel spacer cause the tires to rub the fenders more often? I'm talking about with the stock fenders, not the flares.
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Old 05-18-2000, 08:24 PM   #13
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Yes, but they where also rubbing on the inside as well. I had to cut the fender lip in order to use the 3mm spacer. With the spacer and the fender cut and roll, rubbing was greatly minimized. I think I need a stiffer suspension.

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Old 05-18-2000, 08:50 PM   #14
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For $700, I would definitely get it
m......just want to know what they are going to make fenders out of ??
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Old 05-18-2000, 09:00 PM   #15
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Im in if it allows me to drop my TEIN HA's springs lower to avoid screeching with my 215/45/17's Freaking @ stock height right now with TEIN's
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Old 05-18-2000, 10:52 PM   #16
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I would love my car to look a little like the 22B. What about guys like me with a 2000 RS Sedan? Will it be able to still work?
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Old 05-18-2000, 11:01 PM   #17
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Kee's going to be doing a kit for the coupe first. But I don't see why a 4 door version can't be designed afterwards. The front flares will be the same. The rears will have to be reworked though.

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Old 05-19-2000, 10:06 AM   #18
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If one were to get the fender flares....would their 215/45/17's look kinda swallowed?

i haven't purchased new wheels and tires yet but I plan to....BTW I am in for the fenders as well!!!!!
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Old 05-19-2000, 11:59 AM   #19
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I originally posted this in the general forum but probably more use here..

These are the part numbers for the 22B suspension.. If someone has the corresponding part #s for the RS then we can find out exactly what is different..

BUSH-T/LINK F ST2022044000 STI 2
BUSH-T/LINK R ST2022044010 STI 2
LATERAL LINK ASSY-F S075580140 STI 2 BUSH B(L/LINK) 20251AA050 1
LATERAL LINKCP-F 1
PILLOWBALL BUSH 20252PA000 1
LATERAL LINK ASSY-RRH S075580150 STI 1 PILLOWBALL BUSH 20252PA000 2
LATERAL LINK CP-RRH 1
LATERAL LINK ASSY-RLH S075580160 STI 1 PILLOWBALL BUSH 20252PA000 2
LATERAL LINK CP-RLH 1
STRUT SET-FRONT 2000055050 STI 1 STRUT COMPL-FRH 1
STRUT COMPL-FLH 1
SPRING COIL-F 2
WASHER 2
STRUT SET-REAR 2000055060 STI 1 STRUT COMPL-RRH 1
STRUT COMPL-RLH 1
SPRING COIL-R 2
WASHER 2

Richard

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Old 05-19-2000, 01:33 PM   #20
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tim, regarding the autox class question--

street mod, so you better bring on the power too.

the other alternative is either D or E mod, not sure which, but you would get creamed even worse there IMO.
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Old 05-19-2000, 02:13 PM   #21
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Colin,

Nah, it shouldn't be too bad down here. Most times I'm pretty close to FTD without resorting to the PAX. Even took FTD once in Charleston. I think it is because we have very tight courses. The ability to get traction down early out of the corners is key. Also, our pavement sucks. Some events are damn near rally crosses.

Did one event in North Carolina and I didn't do too shabby up there either. However, a FTD in SC is about top of the midpack in NC... However, it sounds like an ever better reason to get a turbo.

Thanks again Colin,

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Old 05-19-2000, 02:50 PM   #22
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I'll wait first of all until I get my car (!!), but also to see if anyone does this and posts pictures...

I'd VERY much like to do this!! I love fender flares. The Audi A6 4.2 for example.
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyummy.

(I just love that car.)
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Old 07-13-2000, 07:58 AM   #23
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Did this body shop ever actually start making these things for the wide body kit??
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Old 07-13-2000, 11:16 AM   #24
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As soon as my tranny is fixed, I'll be drivin' er own down to get the flares fitted

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Old 07-13-2000, 11:27 AM   #25
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See if he would be interested in doing a rear bumber for me. After the turbo is installed I am uping the exhaust and I am playing with the idea of removing the spare tire well and going with middle pipe postion.
I would be game on the fender flares as well. Although I would be interested to see how they look on your unit first.
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