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Old 05-10-2004, 11:34 AM   #1
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HPDE at Phoenix International Raceway roval yesterday, 4 sessions of about 20 minutes each.

Total of about 90 racing miles, used up 15 gallons of 101 @ $4.75 gallon .

~6 mpg

temperature: 80 (morning), 101 (afternoon)
Tires: OEM
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Suspension: Eibach springs, Whiteline sway bars f/r with rear set to middle adjustment.

Fastest lap each session was my second, so the tires are likely going away when hot. Brakes took a bit of getting used to, but they remained firm and steady throughout.

Setup was easily controlled. Just a tad of initial understeer, with throttle-on neutral. Lifting at maximum lateral adhesion tucked the front in, no drama there. Shift point from 4-5 on the oval happened to be at the exit of the fastest corner. Car was not upset at all by the shift. Top speed of 120 just before diving into the infield.

Saw 1.21g on my G2 meter, with steady-state cornering around .95g, and .8g on the slightly banked oval portion (recorded on video). I'll try to get a few laps of video up.
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:05 PM   #2
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They give you times? Isn't that kinda dangerous from an insurance perspective?

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Old 05-10-2004, 12:08 PM   #3
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They give you times? Isn't that kinda dangerous from an insurance perspective?

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some people manage to arrange sophisticated method of getting their OWN times.

(stopwatch etc)

btw, 1.21gs on a stock sedan on stock tires is insane =)
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:25 PM   #4
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btw, 1.21gs on a stock sedan on stock tires is insane =)
that's peak Gs, anyone can do that in a Geo Metro, having sustained .95G is damn good though.
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:32 PM   #5
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that's peak Gs, anyone can do that in a Geo Metro, having sustained .95G is damn good though.
GEO METRO CHALLENGE!

achieve peak Gs of 1.2 with a stock GEO METRO!
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Old 05-10-2004, 12:53 PM   #6
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I paid for a transponder so I got timed... 1:16.5 (and change) was my best lap. The car had another second, maybe two or three, but the driver wasn't willing to push 10/10ths through the oval. Most of my laps I was around .65g in the oval.

Apples to apples for the day's conditions, by the fourth session I did get faster than an M3 convertible, although he was able to slightly pull away from me on the straight (not stock?).

As far as insurance goes, I don't think it's dangerous as I doubt State Farm would offer any kind of coverage for damage done on a racetrack. It's driver beware. I've done lots of road racing, just nothing in the last 10 years. There were no scary moments. All the drivers in my group were fairly well behaved. Still, a mechanical failure on the oval = a big ball of STi with payments.

I'll probably do a HPDE at PIR again, but for the risk factor Firebird is a better choice.

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Old 05-10-2004, 12:55 PM   #7
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GEO METRO CHALLENGE!

achieve peak Gs of 1.2 with a stock GEO METRO!
I could do it, but it would roll over right after the peak.



Last time I tracked my car I got 105 miles on track before my fuel light went on right before going off track and getting a little grass and mud on the car.
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Old 05-10-2004, 01:57 PM   #8
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nah, just more HP to the wheels probably
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Old 05-10-2004, 05:26 PM   #9
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FWIW that is about the same MPG i got in my N/A 1.8 L at PIR in 3 30 min sessions
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Old 05-10-2004, 05:42 PM   #10
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nah, just more HP to the wheels probably
Im just about dead even with donavan's e46 up to 100 above that and the m3 would probably start pulling away slowly.
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:47 AM   #11
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MPG?

Don't you mean GPM?


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Old 05-11-2004, 08:59 AM   #12
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Statefarm is one of the few companies that will cover you if you throw your car into the wall. They won't cover it if its timed though.

And that mileage is about par for track days. I get about 10-11 mpg when I do track days.
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:59 AM   #13
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I get about the same 5-6 mpg out of my modded WRX at Road Atlanta. I agree, at 5 bucks a gallon for the good stuff, that gets expensive.
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Old 05-11-2004, 04:04 PM   #14
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Statefarm is one of the few companies that will cover you if you throw your car into the wall. They won't cover it if its timed though.
Had to speak with my S/F agent today anyway, so I asked the question. After her calling a S/F adjuster, who had to talk with his supervisor, the word is... no, timed or not. The dealbreaker here is public roads (or lack thereof).
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That's awkward. I talked to my person and he said that if it isn't timed, and you have an instructor in the car it will be covered. I know someone who was covered because he had an instructor (or the school said he did) in the car with him. Its got to be classified as a high performance driving school though, can't just be a track day. That might be the difference.
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That's awkward. I talked to my person and he said that if it isn't timed, and you have an instructor in the car it will be covered. I know someone who was covered because he had an instructor (or the school said he did) in the car with him. Its got to be classified as a high performance driving school though, can't just be a track day. That might be the difference.
Same thing with my State Farm agent. HPDE and any event which is untimed, and for which instructors are present, is OK. Anything involving timing is not, even though instructors may be present.
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Old 05-14-2004, 09:57 PM   #17
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"Had to speak with my S/F agent today anyway, so I asked the question. After her calling a S/F adjuster, who had to talk with his supervisor, the word is... no, timed or not. The dealbreaker here is public roads (or lack thereof)."

Be VERY careful about even ASKING your insurance agent about track coverage. A few months ago I posted a new thread about this. I was a USAA member for 25 years. Never had a ticket. Never had a crash. Never submitted a claim. JUST for asking about HPDE events, they DROPPED ME! I'm not kidding. I went to great lengths explaining how this was NOT timed... had an instructor, etc... They didn't care. I could understand if they wouldn't cover track damage. But, they dropped me altogether! Those bastards at USAA can kiss my ass. I couldn't believe they treated me that way, FOR ASKING, after 25 years of being an excellent client.

To stay on topic.... I calculated my track day fuel mileage at 5 miles / gallon!

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