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Old 10-06-2000, 02:06 PM   #1
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I just installed the Whiteline 18-22mm sway bar this morning and now planning to replace the stock tires on my00' RS. Does anyone have any experience with the Bridgestone RE 730's or similar performing tire in light snow up to 3-4 inches? I live in SE PA and while we have not been getting much snow the last few years the road crews are clueless when any amount of the white stuff falls. I am planning to to keep the stock rims and upgrade the suspension soon to the P1 (spdusa) or Sti/Eibach (Rallispec).
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Old 10-06-2000, 04:34 PM   #2
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I've been looking for a direct answer that is clear and concise myself. Folx, please let us know what you are riding or have ridden (please, only long term experience) and how you would rate them.

There have been too many posts doing comparisons, I want just the opinions of first hand use.

Please, also specifically how do they handle in snow?

Sort of:

1) Tires?
2) Are they dedicated snows?
3) How do they handle in the snow?
4) How do they handle other times (if applicable)?

Thanks folx.

-Rez
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Old 10-06-2000, 05:27 PM   #3
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Here's the answer to your questions.... ANY type of PERFORMANCE tire does not handle well in snow. Up here in Calgary on Monday, there was about 2-3 cm of snow. I have Falken GRB2's on my Speedlines. And believe me, I could start w/ out problems but once you hit the brakes that's a whole different story. The Falkens have excellent water channelling capabilities (I was doing 180km/h on the highway in a terrential downpour), but ALL performance tires have a soft rubber compound that hardens when the temperature drops. If you live in an area w/ snow, definately get a dedicated winter/snow tire on steel wheels or a set of EXTREMELY GOOD all-seasons
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Old 10-06-2000, 06:39 PM   #4
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Bridgstone Blizzaks are supposed to be one of the best snow/performance oriented tires around for whatever it's worth.
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Old 10-06-2000, 08:10 PM   #5
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There is a new Blizzak responding to the need for a performance winter tire, but all the previous models are mushy, marshmellowy junk when the roads are dry.

M&M: I would not attempt the RE730 in snow or ice. The compound will take a long time to heat up, or won't heat fully at all in winter driving and when the nasty stuff is on the ground you won't have the tread features or compound to get any traction. You can find out firsthand if you insist, but I would recommend a performance winter tire or at least a set of all seasons. Performance winter being highly preferred.
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Old 10-06-2000, 08:56 PM   #6
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Get the Nokian Hakkapeliitta 1s. They've got less squirm than the Blizzaks and comparable traction. Furthermore, they come in studded and non-studded versions and both last twice as long.
The Nokian Hakkapeliitta Qs have even better traction than the 1s but don't come studded.
The 2s are coming out sometime this winter season, but I wouldn't wait for them.
http://www.nokiantyres.com/indexen.html
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Old 10-06-2000, 10:55 PM   #7
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I have been raving about the RE730's in wet and dry for months, and DID get to try them in the snow on the way to the last autocross at the end of September. It was a slushy melting kinda snow, since it was 33 degrees out.

I did not like the way they kinda wandered around on the slush/snow. It was nothing as comforting as the new RE92's were last winter. In the parking lot at the autocross, where the snow was melted, I won the 1000 point top score for the autocross!

So, this winter I either put the RE92 all seasons back on, or maybe get some RE910's which are a performance all season tire. There are 2 or 3 other good winter performance tires people rave about, but I forget which they are.

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Old 10-06-2000, 11:27 PM   #8
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Nyone that tells u the re-92's can drive in the snow is full of sheezy!
I bought a Honda(my last AWD engine swap) that had those tires and it scared me. Previously, I had driven another AWD Honda w/Michelin XGT H-rated tires.
When I slashed a sidewall on 1 of the re92's, i bought another set. Between the 2 cars I have 50k mi on the Michelin tires.
I woulda bought the v or z rated if I was a racer but reality set in, & my cars go all-over the place. The H-Rate tires have a soft side-wall,but you can beat on them. If you want more dry traction go with the v or z series or even the s models
Also... used to have a Michelin studded X on my Accord a couple years back, if you really want a winter tire buy some studs!
Yeah, this is the same dribble you have heard before, but you made a new thread
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Old 10-07-2000, 07:38 AM   #9
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Mike&Michele,

Simply put... if a tire is rated as "summer only," well then there's your answer. Not trying to be rude, but no, something like the RE730 will not work in snow.

Think about it: would you wear running shoes for best traction in snow? No. You'd wear boots. Similarly, you wouldn't try to jog in snowmobile boots.

I'll be buying the RE730 as well. In the spring. This winter, I'll probably get steel wheels and winter tires.

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Old 10-07-2000, 08:42 AM   #10
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Well, if I refuse to drive on all season RE92's in the snow, let's just say No to RE730's in the snow. Sorry, but snow tires are the only way to go. You're risking not only your Subie's life, but your own by not using snow tires.
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