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Old 05-18-2004, 07:20 PM   #1
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hey guys, i need some input for my english essay. i'm writing about car modification and what is the 'political' meaning behind it?

and i forgot what JDM stood for...

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Old 05-18-2004, 07:22 PM   #2
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Japanese Domestic Market

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Old 05-18-2004, 07:38 PM   #3
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People modify cars to satisfy their lust for something lacking in their current method of transport. Some do it for the pure joy of seeing something built from the ground up and then bask in its glory ie: on the track and such. Some just do it because it seems to be cool and makes them look more awesomse *Fast and the Furious pop culture. Then there are some who want the best out of their cars for it to be able to handle what you want to put it through.

I'm blabbing on and on (procrastinating right now) but modifying one's car is acutally addicitve. Once you've seen what a modification can do you begin to think "Well gee, if this is that good already I wonder what would happen if I do this?" The pure curiosity and lustful nature of people comes into play and the next thing they know they've emptied their wallets.

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Old 05-18-2004, 09:52 PM   #4
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wow that is pretty good. that will sure add to my essay! thank-you!
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Old 05-18-2004, 10:12 PM   #5
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OoOo.. "The political motivations of 'tuners' in modern day society."

Would be a good read for us.. Dunno bout the english teacher?

I know what camp I'm in.. If I can make my car more fun to drive, more interesting to look at, or more pleasant to listen to, I do it.

When I come out of the house, even when I am late in the morning, and I pause for a second to admire my car, I know I'm happy with my purchases.

When I catch myself stoping to notice how stupid something is, and I try to console myself with the notion that everyone else does it so I have to too, then it's time to face the reality that I've crossed the line. Buyer's remorse and parting out your car won't be far along at that point. Not that that's the only reason for either one.
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Old 05-18-2004, 10:37 PM   #6
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Seeing my car in a window reflection driving downtown will always get my attention. Seeing the warning signs "Curve ahead" gives a tingly feeling on my back bone. Redlining gears evne when the car loses traction gives me a grin. My name is Derek and I drive a Subaru

On a serious note, I agree with imprezaboi
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Old 05-18-2004, 10:54 PM   #7
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I like being poor, that's why I buy aftermarket parts for my perfectly acceptable car.

Seriously though, there are times that I'll look at my car when she's clean and remember how much I love my baby. Funny that you can be in love with an inanimate object. 'til ya turn the key... then its LUST. Pure and simple.

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It's kinda funny..

Rally cars are nice to look at, but I love them even more when they get dirty.

Show cars are the exact opposite, where the owners are always trying to keep them clean.

That's why the Impreza is perfect, cause it can go both ways.

Jo: I always thought JDM was 'Just Do Me' .. seems to work either way.. Oh and the last line of your essay should be something like "Bottom Line: Stock Sucks! Manufacturers claim to make cars for enthusiasts but have yet to deliver a car that needs no mods, and they likely never will as long as each person has varying interests/needs." .. Unless it's a stock Ferrari or some other supercar.. mmmm supercars..
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Old 05-19-2004, 05:27 AM   #10
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yes i agree on that !

japanese drifto monkey !
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Actually it's Japanese Direct Market..Not Domestic...But I think it means the same...Us Americans have different names for things you know were funny like that "A"....
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It's "eh" Ron, not "A"



Man, I'd hate to see what some of you guys do to your houses/apartments/condos/town houses when you guys buy one.

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First thing I want to do when I get my house is lower it. I'm going to add some lowering springs to make the stance of my house look better. I *could* add dirt around the side of the house, but that's the cheap way of lowering my house - just like cutting springs.

Then I plan on tinting my windows - 5% limo tint baby! No cop is ever going to give me a VI on my house!
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Let us know how you did on your essay.

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Old 05-19-2004, 12:07 PM   #14
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You could also look at it from the "battle of the sexes" aka "Tim the toolman Taylor" perspective.

(flame suit on)

1. Most guys have an innate need to fix/improve upon things using their hands.

2. Another reason, if you think about it -- is that in modern society, men have very few outlets with which to satisfy their ingenuity/creativity and perhaps their individuality. Look at women's fashion, women's accessories, cosmetics, hair styles, and (cough) now even nail salons. There seems to be literally "no end" to the means with which women can express themselves and improve upon their own "style".

Now, look at men's fashion, men's hairstyles, etc. Not nearly as much freedom/choice etc. Consider the guy's section" in any store that caters to both men/women. You'll likely find disproportionately more floorspace dedicated towards women's fashion -- it's almost laughably disproportionate in some stores, (Esprit comes to mind). Furthermore, even if men WERE given more choice at the mall -- flamboyant displays of fashion by men are usually
associated with those of the gay/lesbian community -- or, can only be accepted if you are one who thrives in the limelight and are "beyond-cool" (think Lenny Kravitz, Dennis Rodman, etc.) Finally, how much of men's fashion is dictated by women? Even from an early age, much of a young man's wardrobe is likely decided/bought by "mom". Later in life, much of a man's
wardrobe is likely dictated/bought by "wifey/significant other/girlfriend".

What's worse, I think that under such oppression, men eventually give up and resign themselves to having "poor fashion sense."

3. As corny as it may sound, I think guys need something to congregate/bond over. Guys don't have nearly as many topics to talk/gossip over as women do, nor do guys necessarily want to risk topics that can lead them to reveal their inner feelings. We need neutral, non-touchy/feely topics like movies,
sports, fishing etc. etc. to talk about.

Thus, with these three reasons in mind, enter the car. It is a hobby that naturally satisfies the general male population's need for 1, 2, and 3. A couple arguments/observations/parallels can be made/drawn right away (in no discernible order):

A. Car modification is a more fitting outlet than "house modification". Though "house modification" can potentially satisfy 1. and 3. above, it fails in satisfying 2. -- as there is little chance for a man to exercise his true creative talents in house modification. Moreover, creativity when performing
"house modification" is usually "quashed" (is that a word?) by women since men are generally labelled by the female population as not only having "poor fashion sense" (see point 2. previously) but also "poor interior design sense". When was the last time you were able to make the final say on what wallpaper/paint colour to use?

B. Some may argue that point 2. is both a boon and a curse for women. The dark side of such freedom of choice and expression is that it is driven by a fashion/cosmetic industry that exploits insecurity and uses idealized visions of the female form to push product. Women thus feel pressure to "conform" to fashion trends and are ever in search of the perfect blend of "fashion/beauty". The same however, could likely be said about men and cars.
Those who drive an automatic likely feel pressure to subscribe/conform to the idealized vision of "cool guys know how to drive standard". Men feel pressure to modify their cars in keeping with the latest modication trends, and to avoid being tainted/labeled as "ricey". External mods should be balanced by an equal, if not greater amount of engine/handling mods, or risk your car being referred to as "all show, no go". I'm sure you can think of other parallels as well.

C. Females either can't tell the difference (or don't care) about different
shades of car paint color codes (ie. WRB, vs. metallic blue, vs. pacifica
blue.. it's all blue!) Likewise, males ither can't tell the difference (or don't care) about different shades of lipstick color codes (ie. Sheer Plum, vs. Polished Up vs. Sashimi Mimi.. it's all red!)

D. Women's shampoo/hair products/cosmetics collection = Men's car wash/wax/detailing collection. "You need another shampoo (women) / wax (men)?!? You haven't even finished the other one!"

E. Women can spend 3-5 hours at the salon getting a facial or getting their hair/nails/makeup done. Guys can spend 3-5 hours in the garage washing/waxing their car. Each is a relaxing/rewarding experience respectively and should be seen as equal activities. I think women too easily dismiss men as "car crazy" if they spend hours waxing their car. Think about how much time they spend at the salon!

F. Women's purse/shoes collection = Men's tools/shift knobs/wheels&tires
collection. You can never have enough

G. Women's Vogue/Cosmo/etc. fashion magazines = Men's car magazines / internet forums.

H. Women need to spend time shopping to relax / unwind (ever hear that coquitlam centre commercial on the radio?). It should be realized that men sometimes need to spend time fixing/modifying their cars to relax / unwind.

Lastly, with all this being said (admittedly from a male-biased perspective), it begs two questions
- what drives some girls to modify their cars? -- And do internet forums discussing fashion/makeup/accessories exist for the female masses?

Anyways, that's enough blabbing!

cheers, and good luck on that essay

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Good points Roll.

I actually did a 1 hour presentation in my final year on the auto industry and the importance of it on society. Japan and the aftermarket was a big part of the essay. Roll covered a few things that I mentioned in the presentation and I totally agree. The guys who rice out there cars are doing that because they know if they wear a pink shiney shirt they will get their ass kicked.
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Hmm pink shiney shirt or 4 foot high wing.. Which will get your ass kicked faster? Well you can outrun the jealous bastards in your car, but the pink shirt does nothing to help you escape an ass kicking..
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2. Now, look at men's fashion, men's hairstyles, etc. Not nearly as much freedom/choice etc...Furthermore, even if men WERE given more choice at the mall -- flamboyant displays of fashion by men are usually associated with those of the gay/lesbian community -- or, can only be accepted if you are one who thrives in the limelight and are "beyond-cool" (think Lenny Kravitz, Dennis Rodman, etc.)...Later in life, much of a man's
wardrobe is likely dictated/bought by "wifey/significant other/girlfriend".

What's worse, I think that under such oppression, men eventually give up and resign themselves to having "poor fashion sense."

Moreover, creativity when performing "house modification" is usually "quashed" (is that a word?) by women since men are generally labelled by the female population as not only having "poor fashion sense" (see point 2. previously) but also "poor interior design sense". When was the last time you were able to make the final say on what wallpaper/paint colour to use?
No offense, but not every guy has "poor fashion sense" or "poor interior design sense". Just because your experience with these type of people is true does not mean the majority of the world's males are. I can point out plenty of guys who would rather buy a nice pair of Cole Haans than Falkens. Or someone who'd rather buy home decor items than purchase a bodykit.
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Hahaha.. 'Cole Haans?! What a homo!'

Sorry, I know better but, yeah.. it was just too funy.

Honestly I don't think anyone here means 'Every single male in the universe'. I could be wrong but that's just a feeling I have.
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No offense, but not every guy has "poor fashion sense" or "poor interior design sense". Just because your experience with these type of people is true does not mean the majority of the world's males are. I can point out plenty of guys who would rather buy a nice pair of Cole Haans than Falkens. Or someone who'd rather buy home decor items than purchase a bodykit.
none taken I apologize for my use of wide sweeping generalizations (which is why I put the flame suit on at the beginning of my post), but I found it difficult to discuss the "politics" of car modding without them.

I believe that examples of most of the generalizations that I used are relatively easy to find however in the media - eg. "Debbie Travis', painted house" and I agree -- there are many guys with good fashion / interior design sense out there -- more power to them. I just felt that men are generally branded by women as having poor fashion/interior design sense.



I think tora brings up a good point -- Japanese car modding culture (ie. most recently 'dorifto' culture) is not viewed as ricey because I think we tend to put much of what comes out of japan on a "pedestal" - their stuff is "beyond cool".

Thus, --> Bosozuko and 'dorifto' cars, for the most part, are able to dodge the "rice bullet" for the same reasons that Dennis Rodman can wear risque women's clothes and get away with it.

Again, sorry for anyone I may have offended with my use of generalizations
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Hahaha.. 'Cole Haans?! What a homo!'

Sorry, I know better but, yeah.. it was just too funy.

Honestly I don't think anyone here means 'Every single male in the universe'. I could be wrong but that's just a feeling I have.
Fine fine...pair of Pradas. Or Kenneth Coles. How about Tods? Or Gucci? Boss maybe?
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none taken I apologize for my use of wide sweeping generalizations (which is why I put the flame suit on at the beginning of my post), but I found it difficult to discuss the "politics" of car modding without them.

I think tora brings up a good point -- Japanese car modding culture (ie. most recently 'dorifto' culture) is not viewed as ricey because I think we tend to put much of what comes out of japan on a "pedestal" - their stuff is "beyond cool".

Again, sorry for anyone I may have offended with my use of generalizations
I'm not offended, just wanted to point out that not everyone mods their car for a need of fitting in or expression of their own creativity. And not everyone is completey inept when it comes to fashion sense and style.

You guys may have forgotten that some people just like to go fast...and so they modify their cars to go like stink. Look at the muscle car guys, you think they care if their car can't brake or corner? Or that it even looks good? They just want it to stupid fast, and they do it to satisfy their speed urges.
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No offense, but not every guy has "poor fashion sense" or "poor interior design sense". Just because your experience with these type of people is true does not mean the majority of the world's males are. I can point out plenty of guys who would rather buy a nice pair of Cole Haans than Falkens. Or someone who'd rather buy home decor items than purchase a bodykit.

When I lived in Montreal, I spent about $800/month on fashion and clothes. Equal to my monthly automotive modification budget when I'm in Vancouver. The difference is that in Montreal, I have no car to mod, so I mod myself.
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wow! you guys should write my expository essay. cuz i'm so stuck on words. but i shall play around with you guy's words as to no "plagiarism"

Dendrobium: how long did it take you to write all that up? you sound pro! for my next essay -- argumentative -- i'll maybe talk about men vs women.. hmm

and as to why some girls, like me, modify their cars.. hmm. it's just what interests me. i used to all be into fashion and stuff and poor my bank account into buying a new outfit every week, but now i need a new hobby. my car is my toy. so i play with it. doing whatever i could to make it more... 'mine'... so it doesn't look like everyone else's subaru, or 'just a transportation', even though i have talked to many male gender drivers and they don't care the least about cars, it just gets them from A to B. i think that's what on most girls' mind too. it's still a battle of the sexes thing i think. but it's changing dramatically.
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Oh I know why cars mod thier cars.. Cause even though growing out of your favorite bra is a good thing, it costs money, and your car will never outgrow it's bra.. Unless you mod the hood/bumper?
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I think it all comes down to personality; some men and women just like to make things better or to improve their functionality
Weather it is cars, houses, clothes whatever. Some people are just lazy or donít care or are simple happy with what they have.
And then there is the cost of doing all this stuff, I want an EJ22T but that is out of my cash range at the moment, so even if I wanted to do that, it will have to wait.

Personally I think modding stuff, is just personalizing something to reflect your needs, ambitions and desires. Some people say it is merely an extension of your own personality.

For me I love modding cars because I think it is one of the finest arts in the world, in my mind it is a beautiful 3D metal sculpture that is also functional. This is a technical art that involves more than just beauty, it also has to work, be safe and perform, I would like to see a painting do that!

The bottom line, guy or girl does not matter; I think it is pure personality and the need to express yourself. Like Michelangelo, when I look at a stock car (or a chunk of marble) I see a masterpiece

4WF.... good luck on the essay Jo
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