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Old 05-19-2004, 09:19 AM   #1
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What's up guys? I'm a DSM'er looking for some help with a decision to get a family car for my wife. I'm seriously considering the Forester XT but I want to hear from people who have them. Drove both and seems like the 5spd is the only way to go. It's quick, hard to feel fast compared to my modded GSX, and seems to have the functionality we need. Any local dealer recommendations would also be great.

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Old 05-19-2004, 09:22 AM   #2
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I would wait a couple more months for the Legacy GT Turbo wagon to arrive, and have a look at that. If I could have, I would have.

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Having said that, I am still very happy with my FXT. Power is very good, the car is getting faster as it breaks in, and minor suspension mods make it a competent, quick, and versatile urban commando.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:08 AM   #3
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I have to second what lucien said.....

I JUST got my XT and love it, but was driving a cherokee b4 so anything feels fast. I got the premium, loaded up w/AT and surprised the heck out of a vtec kid last nite all while staying under 4k revs. stop sign w/2 lanes with right lane ending right after sign. 4 cars at sign, kid pulls up (hadn't even painted his body kit, ptui) thinking he'll get me. I p-braked into boost just before it was our turn to go. buh bye.

owned by a 38yo dad in an suv.... :-)

Had I been able to wait for the new leg turbo, i would have; if for nothing other than comparison b4 I buy.

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Old 05-19-2004, 10:59 AM   #4
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There's a lot of both fun and practicality in the XT, even stock.
Lower it w/ STi or aftermarket suspension and you've got an excellent stealth vehicle.

Drive the Legacy Wagon just for comparison if it's around, but I wouldn't worry too much about it if you just went for the XT.

Especially now with the incentives on the 2004 XTs.
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Old 05-19-2004, 12:58 PM   #5
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i say it depends on what you need.
out of the box, the FXT is a GREAT wagon. its more utility than performance or luxury. check it out, and if you want more luxury or more performance consider the legacy GT wagons coming out soon. if you just want a wagon that can go quickly-efficiently and doesnt catch any attention (sleeper), FXT is the way to go. plus its ground clearence is higher than other subarus but still lower than any SUV truck on the market.
btw its a wagon not a truck
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:03 PM   #6
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Seems like there are a lot of recent Forester XT owners having buyers' remorse for not waiting for the Legacy GT or Outback XT. I've seen, touched, smelled, and sat in (but not driven yet) the latter two, and they are very nice - a step up in perceived quality from anything I've seen out of Subaru, including the old SVX.

I'd be a bit reticent to jump on the new Leg/OB bandwagon, but then maybe I'm clinging to the old notion "never buy a model in its first year of production" too tightly.

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Old 05-19-2004, 01:04 PM   #7
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Especially now with the incentives on the 2004 XTs.
Any incentives beyond the 1.9% financing?
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:07 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info on the Legacy GT, another consideration. I agree that the XT pricing on the 04s could become appealing as the 05s come out. So it sounds like no one has any major gripes about the XT. Are there any known issues with the XT? Anything you don't like that you just choose to overlook? So far everything I've heard had been positive, although they are new model and there probably aren't too many with higher milage yet. I didn't love the feel of the shifter, but hopefully some stiffer bushings would fix that.

Keep the feedback coming. Thanks guys!
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:14 PM   #9
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regarding incentives - i just got mine at 1.9 and 500 less than dealer invoice.

xt premium at - 25.5k before I added accessories. (edited 25.7k b4 accessories)

plus they gave me full kbb on my (beat-up) trade.

you may see interest rates going up 1/2 percent tho....might wnt to move on it. we had the cash, but with 1.9 it's silly not to finance so i put 0 down and, with trade, ended up w/a payment just slightly less than 400.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:15 PM   #10
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I love my XT. I actually drive it off road on occassion while hunting, so I don't think i'll be lowering mine anytime soon. I don't regret buying this vehicle at all. I just wish my payments were lower...lol. I would recommend anyone to consider it, just for it's versatility. I went from owning a turbo honda, to the XT, and I don't regret it one bit. I love having awd!!!!
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:29 PM   #11
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Thanks for the info on the Legacy GT, another consideration. I agree that the XT pricing on the 04s could become appealing as the 05s come out. So it sounds like no one has any major gripes about the XT. Are there any known issues with the XT? Anything you don't like that you just choose to overlook? So far everything I've heard had been positive, although they are new model and there probably aren't too many with higher milage yet. I didn't love the feel of the shifter, but hopefully some stiffer bushings would fix that.

Keep the feedback coming. Thanks guys!
I currently have an XS (picking up my XT today), so cannot speak to the XT engine. Otherwise, they are basically the same. No power driver seat is a little lame ('05 XT will have power seat).

I find that the leather above the manual seat adjustment knob rubs on the know and wears. I am no lightweight, so this might be a factor. The seat will also not hold its height forever, it has to be adjusted back up every once in a while. Unlike the WRX which has a ratchet adjustment, this is a turn know held with friction.

I have a few squeaks and rattles.

The auto AC doesn't seem to work as well as it should at mantaining cabin temp, without blowing out air that is too hot or cold.

Overall, I love my '03 XS Premium, which is why I am getting an '04 XT Premium today. The one I am getting today is exactly the same (color, etc.), except for a year newer and the turbo engine.

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Old 05-19-2004, 01:39 PM   #12
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I didn't love the feel of the shifter, but hopefully some stiffer bushings would fix that.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:01 PM   #13
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Nice. Do you have a FAQ on that, is that just a different shift knob? STi I would guess? Did you do any other mods to change the feel?
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:52 PM   #14
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The F-XT will be a bit cheaper than the Leg...if that factors in to the decision.

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Old 05-19-2004, 03:39 PM   #15
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Nice. Do you have a FAQ on that, is that just a different shift knob? STi I would guess? Did you do any other mods to change the feel?
Peaty's favorite site lists some, but there's quite a number of shifter mods for the XT.

You can use either the Subaru/SPT/STI short throw, or the aftermarket Kartboy, or a mix of Subaru shifter with kartboy bushings (the best combo it seems).

There's a bunch of things to look at here:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48

Including how to adjust the Hill Holder Clutch--which *can* be a source of annoyance for some.

It bugs me when I go soft-roading (forest roads, not Mojave) and try to negotiate some slow hill climbs/break-overs, but I rarely go offroad anyway, just once in the winter and twice in the spring. Basically I just did it to do it.

I plan to lower mine for AutoXing in the near future, but I still don't think stock is terrible in any way, and it's the only SUV not to get a roll-over rating/warning.

Overall I barely notice the body roll now. It *did* take me about a month to get used to it, but after that, I really can't complain.

Other than the HH, I can't think of any problems with the XT that I've encountered in my typically "spirited" driving.

Mileage seems to be 20mpg, no matter what I do, which is better than 16 for something like the Explorer, etc.

My A/C works fine, but I have deep tint, so maybe my cabin's not as hot.

As to incentives, check your local area, in mine it's actually down to 0.9%, not 1.9% (though the 0.9% may also be for 24mo not 36).

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0.9% Financing Now through June 1, 2004 - 2003 Subaru Baja models and all 2004 Subaru Legacy, Outback, Forester, Baja and Impreza (excluding WRX STi) models are available with special financing as low as 0.9% APR.

Length of contract is limited. In addition, any Factory-to-Dealer Incentives or Customer Cash Rebates available may increase the savings (depending on model and year). Hurry, you must take delivery from dealer stock between May 1, 2004 and June 1, 2004. See your nearest participating dealer for details.

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As to incentives, check your local area, in mine it's actually down to 0.9%, not 1.9% (though the 0.9% may also be for 24mo not 36).
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Old 05-19-2004, 08:55 PM   #17
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I flat out LOVE my FXT...I can't think of anything to complain about. I'm at 900 miles and counting and even shifting at 4000 revs she is faster than most cars out there. My mileage was 26.1mpg after my first fill up(alot of it driving back home on the interstate from the dealer 100 miles away) and 24.4mpg after my second. Local driving. So gas mileage is excellent.

Bought mine at Capitaland Motors in albany, NY. Paid $24,200 and gave me a great trade in for my 4runner.
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:24 PM   #18
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I have an Outback VDC (auto only) which is currently the highest end OB and the F-XT manual. Both are very nice. The OB's VDC AWD is super. although the Forester and Outback are similar in cargo area the OB has more "usable" space. Even though the OB has the H6 and 212 BHP and is very smooth, the Forester XT is much more fun and exciting to drive. The OB is posh and quite inside and very good for traveling distances. The F-XT is just a hoot to drive with a huge dose of stealth. They are coming out with an Outback XT too I understand.

I haven't had one regret getting the F-XT. It's exceded my expectations actually. Because we have the OB I have no desire to get a Legacy GT although I'm sure it's going to be nice.
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I haven't had one regret getting the F-XT. It's exceded my expectations actually.
that pretty much sums up our purchase of FXT 5spd as well.
its quick, stealth, and utility, and not afraid to get dirty, snowy, whatever.
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Dave,

I'm a current DSMer also. I use the FXT as my foul weather car, the GSX only comes out when it's sunny. I opted for the auto, as it's pretty darn quick, and if I want to shift I'll grab the Eclipse. Lots of cargo room, lots of ground clearance, and fun to drive. Hard to beat the combo. Your wife will love it, mine does on those rare occasions she gets to drive it.

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I've assembled a hugh collection of interesting and informative information on FXT in the FILES area at:

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/foresterxt/files/

Among other things, the crash video's are most impressive!

Cheers,

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I've assembled a hugh collection of interesting and informative information on FXT in the FILES area at:

Among other things, the crash video's are most impressive!

Cheers,

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I haven't had one regret getting the F-XT. It's exceded my expectations actually.
Yeah, I have to agree.

I was looking at getting the STI when I got the FXT instead.
The FXT was supposed to be the 2nd car, the "utility" car; and we were going to get it *after* I got my STI, and it was going to be "Her" car.

But, surprisingly, I haven't regretted the decision to buy the FXT first at all. In fact, She can't even drive "Her" car b/c I like it so much that it's basically become mine.

Now she's getting the STI, and I'm probably keeping the FXT.


And I still have no regrets.



(though it's not a regret, IF we ever get the damn F-STI the FXT is gone. )
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Old 05-20-2004, 06:18 PM   #23
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No regrets here....I guess I should clarify. I had a schweet Legacy 2.5 GT, running STi v5 and H&R springs, with RS seats and a Brullen catback. RS rims, OB swaybar, Cusco brace..the thing was an autocross monster. So I suppose what I meant to say was if the new GT had been on sale in January I might not be driving an FXT now.

But.....


I love this car, and I wouldn't have been able to afford a new GT until prices fell away from sticker, so no regrets. I really flogged her on the way home last night from work (at midnight, the highway was empty) and, even with just the Cobb rear bar and OEM tires, this car had more capability than I have skill, despite the raised stance. A compatriot was following in a Passat 1.8T and he said he almost killed himself just trying to keep me in sight.

Anyway my point is I DO have some track experience and I DO have autocross experience, and the FXT is one mean mutha stealth mobile. I have a wopping $300 invested in suspension mods, and she's already far far faster than anything I would need for the street. I'm also confident it won't finish last in STX this summer either.
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