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Old 05-23-2004, 07:28 PM   #1
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Question: I'm doing a FMIC for my Turbo engine swap (EJ22T into 95 Impreza AWD L) and don't need anything fancy for intercooler piping. I was going to try to have metal pipe bent, but feel it would be easier to just get some flexible reinfoced sylicone hosing. Would this be able to handle the heat/pressure?

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Old 05-23-2004, 07:34 PM   #2
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dont use the silicon hosing, ittle expand under pressure and ull get hella pressure drop

i just , well my friends dad just finished my pipes today, jesus it wasnt easy bout 12 hours so far and i even had most of the pipe cut to length before he started

best way to do it
get some mild steel bends and pipe <locally> assemble it w/ duct tape, also get a couple silicon pieces i suggest one on each side right above wqhere the pipe will go through the bodyh to go down below so that u can take the tops off w/o taking off the bumper, duct tape it all up use silicon where necessary then have a welder look at it, change it <it will happen > and weld it, then get it all powdercoated, that should keep it from rusting

but have fun, its not easy
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Old 05-23-2004, 10:34 PM   #3
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my g/f's dad owns a machine shop and her uncle owns SealsIt (http://www.sealsit.com) so I think I'm going to have the piping, brackets, etc...custom made for my application.

I just chatted with them and they are up for a project turbo car...

I want to avoid as much duct tape as possible.

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Old 05-23-2004, 11:03 PM   #4
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:31 AM   #5
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Check out RJ's Custom Piping. Ask for Ronnie (owner) Cell 917 578 6437 and tell him Chris or trtrex sent you. He made me a custom TBE for dirt cheap and with real mandrel bends. Most people claim they have mandrel bend but really don't...if the bends are smaller in diameter than when it's straight it's not real! He can customize it so that you can buy any intercooler you want and he'll make the piping so that you can keep or lose your fogs. Great work and not expensive! Drop off and get back the same day!

If your g/f's dad is hooking you up for free then go for it (does she have a sister )...if he's charging you, then check out RJ's and start the price wars
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:34 AM   #6
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wouldnt rj need a doner car?
honestly i talked to the guy that did my pipes and said for 300 bucks would u do this again and he said hell no
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Old 05-24-2004, 02:59 AM   #7
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ive got silicon hose in 2.25", 2.5" and 2.0 if you need any
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Old 05-24-2004, 05:19 AM   #8
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thanks guys...white, I appreciate the offer! I'll get in touch.

TRT - my g/f has a sister, but she's 14. Unless you're into that type of thing

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dont use the silicon hosing, ittle expand under pressure and ull get hella pressure drop

I was personally asured by the people at hyperflow.au that the silicone hoses used with their fmic will not flex. It was tested to 30 psi with no trouble.

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RJ doesn't need doner cars. He'll just make the pipes specific for your car. He doesn't make molds for piping...he makes the piping new every time. All he carries is pipes that he bends to fit your car. With RJ's custom piping...custom really means custom.

He hooked up my TBE so that two (square/rectangular slant) tips exits out under the license plate=) He also put flanges on my resonator and cat so that I can switch between race pipes (again that he made) or the cat and res. I'm running resonator and no cat now and the car sounds mean from 1st to 5th gear. When I have the cat with no res the car doesn't feel any different than with the race pipe. I just don't use the cat so that the backfiring from the bov doesn't destroy it. Cat goes on only when I need inspection

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Old 05-24-2004, 03:38 PM   #11
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um? how would he know where to bend the pipes if he doesnt have any references to go off of other than "the intercooler is in the front"
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A couple of $100,000 dollar machines helps alot=). He's done a bunch of cars including his own. NYC expensive = NYC convenience! After making the pipes he can send it out to get ceramic coating (don't know if you need that though), paint or polished. I'm getting my pipes polished, made and installed for about $900 including the intercooler. I'll post up some pics when I get it done. I'll be posting pics of my exhaust too when I get my rear bumper.

He can't make piping for you unless you bring you car in.
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I was personally asured by the people at hyperflow.au that the silicone hoses used with their fmic will not flex. It was tested to 30 psi with no trouble.

Tats.
I read the same thing recently, and since I only plan to run about 14psi, I think I'll try the silicone route and if it doesn't work, then I'll spend some money.

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not a bad price
if u go stainless u wont need to have them coated and the polish is bling bling blaow

im not trying to be mean/stupid but i dont understand how the guy can make pipes that fit and look good and keep fogs <hard to do w/o routing the pipes weirdly, unless u have a wrx> w/o a car on hand? has he done an RS before, programmed the bends into a programmable mandral bender? i just dont get it

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Mandrel bender isn't programmable. The mandrel bender is more of a tool rather than a computerized assembly line thing. It's actually a lot easier than you think. I'm sure you have a couple of custom shops by you that does exhausts....well RJ does exhausts like he does intercooler piping. The idea is easy the actual work isn't. He bends the pipes like the APS/Hyperflow FMIC.

He's got stainless pipes as well as others. I remember him saying that he onlys uses stainless for intercoolers.

I'm not sure if he did an RS but I'm sure he can. I'm pretty sure there name is ubendman on ebay. Check them out=) If you're ever in NYC let me know I'll introduce you to him...he's a cool guy.
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