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Old 05-24-2004, 02:40 PM   #1
dannygo
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I'm thinking of buying my own AccessPORT from COBB Tuning. What I want to know is: Is it worth it? That's a little over 600 bucks just to be able to "overclock" my WRX. How often do you d00dz flash your vehicles? Enough to merit the purchase of a unit? Or rarely enough that you'd rather just pay someone to do it for you whenever you need it? I really don't have 600 bucks to blow unless I'm actually going to use the crap outta this thing. What do you think?
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Old 05-24-2004, 02:44 PM   #2
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you flash it once and you're done. you only need to reflash when you add more mods. You can reflash the ecu using the access port an almost unlimited amount of times verses the 100 or so time a normal reflash can be done. I know SOD has the 04 access ports available. The hard ones to get are the 02-03 version.

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Old 05-24-2004, 02:46 PM   #3
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if you plan on upgrading in the future then i say go for it. if your gonna leave the car alone after a flash then just get a flash.


but remember you also get anti-theft modes, valet mode, fuel economy mode, and other things with the accessport.
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Old 05-24-2004, 03:54 PM   #4
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I just received my last Thursday. Nice little unit. I expecting my exhaust to be delivered today so now I will be able to flash my ecu to stage 2. I also threw a CEL today on the way from school. I plugged up the AccessPort and it read and cleared the code.
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Old 05-24-2004, 04:42 PM   #5
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I agree...if you're not going to mod much more in the future, then don't bother w/ the accessport...

I mean, think about it, how often are you really going to use valet mode, anti-theft mode, and economy mode? I dunno...to me, after getting my reflash...the accessport was just a glorified ODBII scanner. It's up to you...but $600 is a lot of dough. You could just get a reflash and save $200. Only problem w/ the reflash is that you have to be w/out your car for about 72 hours.
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Old 05-24-2004, 05:17 PM   #6
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you might talk to jared at high end motor performance about his reflash. its less expensive & he's local to austin.
www.hemperformance.com

its what ive got on my car & i dig the hell out of it.


edit: its less expensive than ecu-tek & less expensive than the accessport specifically.

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Old 05-24-2004, 06:42 PM   #7
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I could be wrong, but I'm relatively sure Cobb, as a company, doesn't do just 'reflashes' anymore. I'm pretty sure they're pushing AP's for all now.

As far as their dealer network goes, I have no idea... some Cobb-auth sites no doubt still do custom maps that they burn to your ECU (vs. you bringing your AP along with your car and they just give you the map-file, then load it on your ECU). I just recall reading a blurb on Cobb's site that they push AP's when folks ask about just coming into their offices for a reflash. Might've been idle speculation by someone on the boards... no idea. Take it with a grain of salt, it's easy enough to prove/disprove w/a phone call

The utility you'd get out of the thing years down the road seems to pay for itself if you in -any way- expect to do typical, bolt-on, mods (not even getting into the prospect of upgrading to AccessTuner). If you do auto-x, and wish to compete in certain classes (the list of which escapes me, but any stock class, for sure), you'd need it or something like it to switch to an accepted map for said class(-es).

If you plan -zero- extra mods (and mods prove to be quite addictive ), then a simple reflash may be the ticket.

But, if -nothing- else, w/AP, you can flash back to bone-stock if you decide to sell your car... thus avoiding the whole issue of trying to sell a flashed ECU, and trusting someone to swap you a 'good' stock one via Parcel Post. That might be worth $200 in 'peace of mind' all by itself.

What's an ECU-Tek flash cost?.. still like $800??, $700??, even $600.. and you get, IMHO, just a fraction of the functionality of the AP... at least as far as map-switching and so on . I won't get into any performance debates b/c that's been done to death. Typically, both sets of customers are very happy with their choice of either of the major reflash solutions (Cobb or ECUTek).

(not to forget the happy UTEC dudes, but that's a different animal than what the original question seems to hover around...)

Just my thoughts; use for food, cast aside, makes no diff to me

-James ... a super-happy AccessPort owner (therein disclosing my bias)
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