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Old 05-26-2004, 12:58 AM   #1
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Default Link VS 99 RS-T???

My S-AFC and ITC do not do the job anymore and i want to buy a Link stand alone and i want to now if have to keep my fuc*** MAF if i get it???

Can someone give me the link, for the officila Link site???

Please give me all the Info you can tell me!!!
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Old 05-26-2004, 01:44 AM   #2
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the first thing u need to do is figure out what you are trying to accomplish.

If you hate MAF so much, you can certainly get the MAP based ECU... im not sure if the wiring harness is the same.... but in all honesty MAF is easier to tune.

More importantly, Link will not meet OBD2 requirements, therefor you will never pass emissions.

Emanage is a great alternative... can fulfill both SAFC and ITC functions plus more for less $$$. Link is like 1200 bucks, and it does some interesting things, but i dont know that its necessary/appropriote for a daily driver OBD2 vehicle.

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Old 05-26-2004, 01:52 AM   #3
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All of this info I believe can be searched but here goes

I'm pretty sure the Link Plus has a internal MAP

Official site can be had by doing a google search on Link USA. Good luck, there is tons of info on the Link Plus here, so you can try this site as well
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Old 05-26-2004, 03:06 AM   #4
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im an idiot as far as i know

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Old 05-26-2004, 03:17 AM   #5
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standalones are a pain in the butt, stay away from them.
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Old 05-26-2004, 03:19 AM   #6
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lol y
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Old 05-26-2004, 03:21 AM   #7
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Haaaa, and he has a TEC III
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Old 05-26-2004, 03:50 AM   #8
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unsung, do you use the emanage? how do you like it? i see you live in WA and have the same dilemma as me, engine management while keeping emissions compliance. i wanted to use it with the J&S but after hearing about the learning around the emange stuff and the cel stuff im kinda reluctant
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Old 05-26-2004, 03:54 AM   #9
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link plus does not have internal map as far as i know
For someone who complains about not answering the damn questions unless you know the answer you sure do talk a lot. The link has an internal 2 bar map sensor. Hence the need to run the vacuum line to the ecu. You can also use a an external 3bar gm map sensor as well. Please refrain from answering when you don't know the answer for sure. It's the same curtesy you ask of everyone else so follow your own advice.

Also, to answer the original question you do not need your MAF Sensor anymore as the link is a speed density ecu so it uses the map sensor to figure out the amount of air coming in. In fact- all those sensors on the strut tower there can be removed as well.
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Old 05-26-2004, 04:38 AM   #10
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alright fine by me
ps the only reason i thought that was because of the amount of poeple purchasing 3 bar sensors for higher HP apps but youre right ill stop responding to posts
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Old 05-26-2004, 06:36 AM   #11
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Geez, I don't think it's that serious is it... We are all here to learn aren't we, I mean I can honestly say I have learned more in a month being part of this board by asking the stupid questions, but hey that's just me
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Old 05-26-2004, 08:24 AM   #12
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I have emanage in my car (NA at the moment).

It works great with no CEL. I can feel and read furl changing via ODB2 logging.

I have only tried modifying timing +-5 so I havent felt a huge difference. The ignition is wired through the emanage so it must be woring for the car to run

Wiring was very straightforward and I would be glad to help anyone with it if they get into trouble. I'll let you all know when the turbo goes on as to how easy it was to get it running pretty well. I have a m300 wideband that I plan on logging through the Emanage's boost sensor port. (Many have done this as the boost sensor (MAP) is 0-5v and can be logged without beigh referenced in maps.

I have a 99 so I am MAF based.

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Old 05-26-2004, 12:48 PM   #13
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Geez, I don't think it's that serious is it... We are all here to learn aren't we, I mean I can honestly say I have learned more in a month being part of this board by asking the stupid questions, but hey that's just me
I was simply pointing out that he gets mad when people do the same thing to him. These forums are a much better technical resource if people only post when they are sure they know the right answer when it comes to a specific question. That being said, I might have been a bit nicer about it. Anyway, there are no stupid questions, just try to be correct if you are going to answer any.
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Old 05-26-2004, 01:26 PM   #14
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The Link Plus comes with a built in 3 bar MAP sensor giving you the capability to tune up to ~29psi. If you are worried about OBD-II testing for emissions I do not recommend the Link. But other than that, its a great standalone if you can or know someone that can tune it.
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Old 05-26-2004, 01:46 PM   #15
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no, it has a built in 2bar- but can use an external 3bar.
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Old 05-26-2004, 02:30 PM   #16
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Techinically its a 3 bar. Your forgetting about atmos. pressure. So it is 2bar in boost.
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Old 05-26-2004, 03:18 PM   #17
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So no one mentions the hydra because??? .... but to be honest for guys with mild to mid mods... i would wait for the reflash to come out if it ever does..... /sigh

also i agree with Drac... White RS has been a little lippy ..
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Old 05-26-2004, 06:28 PM   #18
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A reflash would love everything I think, I hope I-speed comes out with it or somebody does....
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Old 05-26-2004, 07:43 PM   #19
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Techinically its a 3 bar. Your forgetting about atmos. pressure. So it is 2bar in boost.
no, im sure that it is a 2 bar, counting atmospheric, letting u run up to ~14.7psi
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if it was 2 bar, then how in god's name is WRC 555 running more than 14.7 with a Link Plus? Unless he has the optional 3 bar chip installed.
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Old 05-27-2004, 01:40 AM   #21
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OPTIONAL 3 bar chip installed.
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Old 05-27-2004, 01:48 AM   #22
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Maybe That would be strange because the 4 other Link Plus's I've tuned have all had internal 3 bar MAP sensors and were purchased from different places without the buyers requesting that option.
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Old 05-27-2004, 01:50 AM   #23
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I say we just fight about it
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Old 05-27-2004, 02:04 AM   #24
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it lists it as an option on links site, an external 3 bar sensor
and it mentions the stock one is a 1.5 on the LEM <link1?>
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