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Old 05-31-2004, 12:47 PM   #1
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I'm looking to build up a fixed gear bike for training and I need some input. What are you guys riding? Where did you get your frame? What wheels do you recommened?

I've been around to a few of the LBS. Looking at a Soma frame maybe with Dura-ace hubs and Mavic rims.
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Old 05-31-2004, 01:05 PM   #2
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for fixed gear just throw on what you have around.
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Old 05-31-2004, 01:08 PM   #3
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I'm looking to build a single speed soon.

Really the best way to build a single or fixie is to get a vintage steel frame with the horizontal dropouts. You can get some decent ones on ebay for less than $50, like old Peugeots, Raleighs or Bridgestones.

Then just convert it to single. That way you can get a whole bike for <$200
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Old 05-31-2004, 01:31 PM   #4
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I use an old steel italian road frame with horizontal dropouts for my fixed gear. If you look around you can find them for cheap. They'll also have a freewheel instead of a cassette. So you can just put on a fixed cog, remove the derailleurs and change to a 1/8th chain to fit the cog's teeth. This way you also have brakes for riding on the road.
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Old 05-31-2004, 01:32 PM   #5
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^what he said^
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Old 05-31-2004, 01:51 PM   #6
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Did you see your pedal stroke improve when you started riding a fixie?
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Old 05-31-2004, 02:01 PM   #7
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i have no idea, my roomate is in to riding those weird bikes. he can pretty much beat the crap out of me going up hill on an XC trail though... so i imagine it helps.
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Old 05-31-2004, 05:39 PM   #8
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Yes, your pedal stroke will smooth out.

Just remember that you cannot coast. I recall one time when I was rolling up to a stop light and I sottd up to stretch my calves. The rear wheel came about 2 feet off of the ground before I realized what was happening.

Make sure you plan all of your moves, especially starting and stopping. Oh yeah, just pray that you wan't have to bunny-hop anything.
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Old 05-31-2004, 06:12 PM   #9
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what is a fixed gear bike? and does it smooth out your pedal stroke?

i rode bmx for a no. of years so i know a little bout bikes
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Old 05-31-2004, 06:22 PM   #10
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I'm looking to build a single speed soon.

Really the best way to build a single or fixie is to get a vintage steel frame with the horizontal dropouts. You can get some decent ones on ebay for less than $50, like old Peugeots, Raleighs or Bridgestones.

Then just convert it to single. That way you can get a whole bike for <$200
we need to talk. I'd love to buy one of these...if I can do this for <$200, I'm VERY interested.
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Old 05-31-2004, 06:23 PM   #11
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I like retractable gear better, Less drag.

Opps wrong forum
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Old 05-31-2004, 07:32 PM   #12
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You can get one of these for $550 from you LBS. Nuttin' but chrome.

Bianchi Pista


Or you could build up their concept frame. Only 2.8 lbs.

Pista Concept
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Old 05-31-2004, 09:06 PM   #13
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Both of those are very good bikes for the money.

The Pista Concept is awesome, I'm looking at that for my track bike.

But keep in mind, that those are focused track bikes with track specific forks i.e. no bolt hole for mounting a front brake.

Check this out

http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkFami...u3vxjfm.j27005

Not a bad deal, with the brakes and the flip-flop rear wheel so you can choose to run either a single speed or a fixed gear.

Also check out Independent Fabrications single speed frame with it's eccentric bottom bracket setup for chain tension adjustments.

But that's slightly over $200
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Old 05-31-2004, 10:21 PM   #14
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I just finished the Bike the Drive in Chicago(30 mile ride on Lake Shore Drive...with no cars), Sunday morning. I was riding my old Raleigh 21 speed.

I was passed by two guys on fixed speed bikes, who rode the whole 30 miles and finished 45 minutes before me. About 15 minutes after I finished(an hour after they finished), they went and rode 15 miles of the route again.

Fixed gear riders are often hardcore.
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Old 05-31-2004, 10:24 PM   #15
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Probably some local pros training.

I used to ride a training crit in Atlanta, a couple pros would show up on their fixed gears. They'd push the pace on the flats and climbs but get gapped slightly on the slight descent where we'd be approaching 40mph simply because they ran out of gear and couldn't spin a cadence of 180+.

It's insane how fast those guys are.
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Old 05-31-2004, 10:38 PM   #16
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Probably some local pros training.

they ran out of gear and couldn't spin a cadence of 180+.

Wimps.


There's always the $1,400 Cannondale.

http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/03/c...l-3PR3TMT.html

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Old 06-01-2004, 12:28 PM   #17
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How about some input from the day crew?
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Old 06-01-2004, 12:53 PM   #18
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I'm not a fan of fixed gears. With the type of riding I do and the traffic levels I don't like having to think that much.

I turned my Trek 7500 (hybrid) into a single speed cyclocross though. I used old parts people had given to me when I worked in a shop. Plus I have a couple different gears in the back so I can change the ratio a little by adjusting the limiter screw on the derailleur I use to tension the chain.
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Old 06-01-2004, 12:58 PM   #19
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As I said earlier is a fixed gear trainer is all about finding an old suitable frame, building up some strong wheels and getting the bike dirty. This bike ends up being something unique and has charachter. Kindof like a beater.

One also has to decide on gearing. Man enough for a 42x17? best to keep a range of rear cogs on hand.

For fixed gear rides pick less windy and relatively flat rides to make sure your spin can be kept between 90 to 140rpms. If you hit big winds or hills your gonna be just pushing over too big of a gear and a low cadence and ruining everything a fixed gear bike is used for. An efficient spin.

We always do small ring (42x17, 39x16)sprints on training rides. The smaller gear lets you accell quicker and then use yer legs speed for top speed.
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Old 06-01-2004, 01:17 PM   #20
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i have a bmx bike
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Old 06-01-2004, 01:23 PM   #21
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The main reason I want a cheap single speed is to have something I can ride and lock up in Boston.

Because there's no way in hell I'd want to leave my Sycip road bike anywhere for even a minute.
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Old 06-01-2004, 01:49 PM   #22
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not to mention it's really funny watching a potential bike theif try to ride away on a fixed gear
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Old 06-01-2004, 02:15 PM   #23
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I have had a poor mans "single speed" system rigged up on my hardtail mountain bike (2000 Gary Fisher Kaitai) for a few weeks now, and its awesome. I am replacing the "incorrect" parts slowly as funds allow, but this is whats worked for me, and it may work for you.

First I took all shifting stuff off (Except rear cassette and front chainrings). I have a BMX 16 tooth gear for the rear, but I need to borrow the tools to get it off. I plan on making spacers out of PVC pipe if possible, or I will just break down and buy some from the LBS.

I have the chain hanging on the middle ring in front, and the 4th from the bottom in back (16 tooth rear, 32 tooth front). The big ring is a good rock basher ring THe next obvious problem is that the dropouts are vertical, which means a chain tensioner is needed. Surly, Paul.....yeah, they're nice, but you really don't have to buy one. I made mine out of an old Shimano LX rear deralleur by threading the end of a shifting cable through the barell adjuster and clamping it down in the appropriate place. My chainline is great and easily adjustable, it doesn't skip or bounce off over the rough stuff, and I have $40 in my pocket

I just ordered some new grips, riser bar, and stem to get some better leverage and lighten up the front a tad. Its turning into a cheap but fun toy! Sorry its so wordy, I hope it might help you!

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Old 06-01-2004, 02:17 PM   #24
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not to mention it's really funny watching a potential bike theif try to ride away on a fixed gear

That's pretty funny. Watch them reach for the brake levers only to find there aren't any.


That reminds me...there's a documentary out there somewhere about bike messengers in NYC. From what I remember, they have an annual messenger race. In the race this girl, riding a fixed gear, doesn't brake in time and runs out into traffic where she proceeds to run smack intothe side of a car and go flying over the hood. Luckily she wasn't hurt too bad. Her bike suffered some damage but that was about it.
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Old 06-01-2004, 02:19 PM   #25
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it wont let me edit, but I would also check out the Redline Monocog. Its cheap and it comes with a wheelset.

http://www.webcyclery.com/.docs/prod...t_details.html
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