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Old 06-05-2004, 08:12 PM   #1
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Default Turbo Is finally in...Startup is days away



Finally got the turbo in...Should able to finish up the car and start it by m,onday. Then the 3 days of straight driving to get the break in done will commense...I cant wait.
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Old 06-05-2004, 09:09 PM   #2
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What turbo is that?
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Old 06-06-2004, 12:06 AM   #3
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wow!

way to go!

I'll be doing my install the weeking pretty soon too!!!!!

horray for more rst's!!!

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Old 06-06-2004, 01:17 AM   #4
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no intercooler?
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Old 06-06-2004, 06:23 PM   #5
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no intercooler?
I'm thinking front mount.
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Old 06-06-2004, 06:26 PM   #6
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Gotta make all the piping. I'm going custom front mount, but I may run stage 1 style till I have time to get the piping made.
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Old 06-06-2004, 08:08 PM   #7
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Gotta make all the piping
Startup is days away



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Old 06-07-2004, 12:10 AM   #8
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I'm thinking of doing something similar to your setup there...

quick questions...

did you move the MAF?
If not, how is that going to work?
How does the MAF hold up in a turbo application?

I haven't researched that last question, but since you are doing up a MAF car I figured I'd ask you.

DAMN THE NON-MAF PEOPLE!!!!
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Old 06-07-2004, 12:56 AM   #9
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I take offense to that in every way!!!!

JK, what turbo is that by the way? Are you going to use a tube and fin intercooler or bar and plate? How much psi (I just ask and wonder if a front mount would be worth it).
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Old 06-07-2004, 07:12 AM   #10
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Don't look down of the fact that you are MAF based! There is a reason behind all subaru's factory turbo cars being MAF based. If anything you should think of it as extremely positive that you are MAF based.

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Old 06-07-2004, 08:03 AM   #11
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Don't look down of the fact that you are MAF based! There is a reason behind all subaru's factory turbo cars being MAF based. If anything you should think of it as extremely positive that you are MAF based.

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extremely positive? How so? I am always under the impression that MAP is easier to work with.
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Old 06-07-2004, 09:39 AM   #12
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White 2.5rs : If need be I can start the car and drive it without a intercooler.

I will still be using the MAF, but most liklly be switching to a 3" GM mAF down the road when i start running more boost. My FMIC is Tube and fin, But is different then anything you've ever seen before.
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Old 06-08-2004, 12:59 AM   #13
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extremely positive? How so? I am always under the impression that MAP is easier to work with.

it is when you uses a 3.5 bar or 5 bar map sensor.... not when you use the stock "I hate positive manifold pressure" sensor.

Nino should be fine with the stock maf for a little while. but looking at the size of that turbo it looks like you could easily peg the voltage on it pretty quickly once you crank up the boost.

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Old 06-08-2004, 02:41 PM   #14
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Yeah, Im sure I won't make it far on the stock MAF...I have some interesting ideas though.I was surprised to find out what other cars use the same basic sensor as the 99 RS...I am ionvestigating the upgrade possibility of those and will let everyone know what I learn.
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Old 06-09-2004, 09:51 PM   #15
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Benefits of MAP: Not bulky
Downside of MAP: if ECU sees more than 1atm, it throws CEL
Fix: Use boost nanny or check valve.

Benefits of MAF: As airflow increases, the MAF will add fuel. For light boost applications, the MAF will add fuel as the Turbo creates boost (still need boost nanny for EGR based MAP)
Downside of MAF: Bulky. Still throws CEL if Air flow exceeds 100%, but more forgiving than MAP
Fix: Voltage clamp at about 4.7volts and Boost nanny the EGR MAP to keep from throwing CEL.

Either way, ur screwed. The sensor is not the problem, its the Naturally aspirated ECU that wasnt designed to see boost.

This can only be corrected w/ Piggy back or Standalone.

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Old 06-09-2004, 11:54 PM   #16
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Thats why I bought the Hydra
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