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Old 06-08-2004, 06:30 PM   #1
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Default 2005 Legacy GT Ltd Audio

I purchased my GT Ltd Sedan on May 21. Overall I'm very happy with the car. Although I have the 'upgraded' sound system with a sub woofer, the highs and mid ranges just don't stand out. I really miss my MPX amp and Infinity Kappas! The stereo adjustments are OK, but the sound quality just doesn't fit the rest of the car.

I'm going to upgrade the sound system, but I'll leave the Stereo and indash CD changer because it is integrated into the center console of the car (unless anyone knows a good way around this). Here's what I'm considering:

1. Upgrade the four door speakers and the tweeters in the forward door panels

2. Install XM radio receiver

3. Consider installing another amp in the trunk

4. The CD changer doesn't read MP3 format, so I'm going to install a portable MP3 player that transmits on FM. I just need to find a 12V adapter for it.

Looking for advice regarding:

1. Specs on the factory equipment- maybe a shop manual in .pdf format? are there any auxilary jacks on this thing?
2. Directions on taking the dash and door panels apart
3. How/where to install the XM- this will most likely be the portable Delphi system since the OEM radio is not XM ready. It may fit in the slot where the Navi system should go...
4. Favorite speakers? I really liked the system that I had above, but I'm not really up to date on things anymore.

FWIW I posted some links to some photos on another post here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=563222

Thanks for the help!

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Old 06-08-2004, 07:04 PM   #2
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This custom dash piece really pisses me off.

Why cant they offer the trim piece used in the JDM market?

I'm waiting for the solution but starting to think most are going to ignore it and stick with the stock unit. That is not in my plans and really want to see how this is going to be addressed in the US.
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:55 PM   #3
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I already have a portable mp3 device that I'd like to hookup. No matter how poor the stock sound system is, I'm sure it will sound good enough for me. I'm just concerned that there is no way to hook up an aux line to the stock head unit.

I keep asking dealers for this information without success.
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Old 06-08-2004, 09:28 PM   #4
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I've had the same experience. Nobody knows much about the 05 Legacy. I would love to find a shop manual on Acrobat pdf format. I called Crutchfield (www.crutchfield.com) and spoke with them about the 05 Legacy. They are usually pretty good about instructions, etc. for DIY installations. They don't have any of the 05 Subarus listed. Since I live about an hour away from their HQ in Charlottesville, VA, I asked them if they wouldn't like to take some measurements and photos and do the installation work. I would get the benefit of some of their top installers, and a very careful installation. They would get the measurements and installation instructions for their website. They seem interested. I'm trying to set something up for Thursday of this week. I would then be able to take a few notes (and maybe some pics.)

It could be a Win-Win for both. I'll keep you posted on how things go. If they can't do it this week, I'll have to wait a couple of more weeks- I'll be traveling...

Let me know if anyone has any details or suggestions on any of this stuff. I'll let you know what I come up with.

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Old 06-09-2004, 05:27 PM   #5
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Are you trying to get them to fab a new trim around the HU?
Have you pry the trim out and see what's underneath yet? We can always import the trim they use in Japan for standard DIN install, IF the hazard button can be relocated to the left side.
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Old 06-09-2004, 06:02 PM   #6
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I'll find out what's underneath when I install the XM receiver. It would be nice if they had a way to remove the OEM 'Premium' Head Unit so an after market one could be installed. I sat in the parking lot and scrolled through some CDs today and really listened to the stereo sound. It was very muted. I tuned all three EQ down to neg. 6 (High Mid and Low). I brought them up one at a time to isolate each range. The highs suck like an Electrolux. The mids are lame, and the lows are pretty shallow considering that there is supposedly a sub woofer under the driver's seat.

I donít know if I will be able to do this before my trip this weekend. I wonít be back until after the 21st, but Iíll let you know how things go.

I would be great to have a decent head unit installed. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

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Old 06-25-2004, 03:00 PM   #7
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i am installing a sub this weekend in my Leg. i'll try to take pics, but if not, i will surely post some level of instructions on how i did it. it should be cake compared to my last car. my last car had a fiber optic audio system.

12V should be easy
ground - easy
remote turn on - prob gonna tap a 5 or 7.5A rated fuse in the engine compartment
sound - prob gonna tap in right behind the head unit, into the front speaker lines. i am guessing the rears are crossed-over? i am sure i have to use a line-level converter.

if anyone has done this please post! also any tips would be handy.
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Old 06-25-2004, 04:35 PM   #8
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Does anyone have pics of the JDM trim panel for atermarket headunit that ive heard about?? Google let me down.
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Old 06-25-2004, 06:18 PM   #9
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I recently test drove a gt limited wagon, and it looks to me like a person could easily fabricate some brackets and install a din sized reciever in the slot where the factory navigation system shoud be, it appears to be over 7 inches wide,??
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Old 06-25-2004, 06:37 PM   #10
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I recently test drove a gt limited wagon, and it looks to me like a person could easily fabricate some brackets and install a din sized reciever in the slot where the factory navigation system shoud be, it appears to be over 7 inches wide,??
I think someone measured and it's not quite wide enough. I might put a head unit in the DIN slot in the glove box though.
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:42 AM   #11
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I had a 2003 WRX which I just traded for a 2005 Outback. I did what you want to do in my WRX- I kept in the stock stereo and cd-changer and I upgraded the speakers to Infinity Kappa, added an amp and a subwoofer to the stock system. What a mistake! The vastly improved speakers and amplifier made my stock stereo sound like crap. The stock stereo sounds okay with the stock speakers, but with the upgrades we did it really brought out the sound distortions in the head unit. Quite frankly, the system sounded far better before the upgrades because the weak OEM speakers were a perfect match for the weak stock HU and they masked all the distortions from the HU. I then decided to change the HU to a JVC and OMG it sounded fantastic! So I recommend customizing a faceplate and going with a full upgrade and HU. You can try your way first, but I am sure you will conclude what we did and buy a HU anyway- just trying to save you some time.

BTW- I think the 2005 Outback stereo sounds pretty good, so if you ever do intend to go with an aftermarket HU, I'd would love to purchase your OEM HU and CD-Changer for my Outback. The thought of several more weekends to customize a faceplate, and install and aftermarket stereo with amp, and speakers overwhelms me.

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Old 06-27-2004, 11:14 AM   #12
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I will be picking up my GT wagon tommorow, i was thinking of keeping the stock unit and upgrading everything else, but i agree with you rimfaxe, im afraid everything else will sound like crap still because its not matching up. I just pulled all the equip out of my totaled outback, and dont think i can wait until an aftermarket solution comes out. I love satalite radio So i will be going to my local shop and see what they can custom fabricate up, will keep everyone updated. But i heard it was all one piece behind the console, is that true?
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Old 06-27-2004, 02:50 PM   #13
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I think the 2005 is just going to require all custom fab. We'll probably have somone in here make custom brackets or just find a way to import the JDM setup.
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Old 06-28-2004, 09:09 PM   #14
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I would be interested in a good custom fab for the HU. I would love to have a good system installed with XM, MP3 and a remote. I really don't want it to look cheesy though. Too bad they decided to integrate thing into the center console.

I would also be interested in a Navi and DVD player, but maybe there will be an OEM system later?

The system sounds OK, but not as good as the Acura TL's stock system and not nearly as good as the after market system on my other car....

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Old 06-28-2004, 11:13 PM   #15
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WHY didnt they just use a two piece flush dash piece?

Does anyone have any idea if the JDM air controls would be plug and play with the USDM system?

Its going to be a year or more before someone comes up with the solution especially if it takes buying a $700+ part to see if it even works.




Fricking STI now includes a stereo I dont want, and the legacy includes a stereo I cant even replace without a big $$$ custom solution.

I look forward to a solution coming soon but everyperson I see buying the legacy says they have no plans on touching the HU.

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Old 06-29-2004, 01:55 AM   #16
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I would be interested in a good custom fab for the HU.
The manual climate control would be easier to upgrade, as all you need is a new face plate.

For automatic climate control, it all depends on Subaru (which is what I have)
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Old 06-29-2004, 07:21 AM   #17
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have any of you guys looked for a grommet on the firewall to do a 12V for a sub install. i have had no luck. the one on the wrx is not there, above the brake pedal.
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:02 PM   #18
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1) For Phillywrx, I ran my amp wire from the battery through a grommeted hole next to the battery and under the fuse box in the left fender. Undid the front left wheel well should and ran the amp wire inside the left front fender and through a rubber grommet that is right in front of the left/driver's front door. Just pop the rubber grommet and drill a hole in it that will accommodate either an 8 or 4 Ga. amp wire.

2) In regards to the 2005 legacy H/U-The OEM sub-woofer instructions should describe the process for removing the radio so that the woofer wiring harness can plug into the H/U's harness and then rout under the seat where the sub-woofer is installed. Does anybody have these instructions? If so can they scan them and email them to me.
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Old 06-29-2004, 02:29 PM   #19
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thanks for the help Brooke. i didn't see a grommet on the side next to the battery. do i have to remove the battery to get to it? what did you wire up for the remote turn on? i planned to tap into a fuse in the engine bay or next to the steering wheel. if i come across those instrux for the oem sub, i'll be sure to PM you.
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The last generation of Legacy and the current Impreza have a large opening in the left fender on the engine compartment side next to the battery, which allows the the fuse box wiring harness to pass. And right in front of the drivers door hinges is a blank rubber grommet tucked behind the fender. If you pass your amp wire through this grommet you must first remove the plastic trim/cover that resides next to you left foot (ie below the A piller below the dash). From there you can either run your amp wire under the carpet next to the door sills and to your amp or powered Sub. Phillywrx-I hope this will help with your installation.
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Old 07-01-2004, 02:36 PM   #21
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thanks again for helping, but i don't think this is applicable to the 2005 Leg. i looked for a good half hour, but i did not have any luck.
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Old 07-01-2004, 03:19 PM   #22
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So has anyone got into the dash yet and seen what the back of the HU looks like? I'd still like to know if there's a way to get an AUX line into the stock unit.
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:08 PM   #23
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I talked with someone at SOA today. The stock stereo has no inputs. It's one integrated unit and there's no getting in. So, if you want to do anything more than what's there, you're in for an aftermarket unit.

Just have to keep checking Crutchfield and friends for an aftermarket face plate and brackets and such.

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Old 08-14-2004, 08:16 PM   #24
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Japan must have a separate dual air climate control, since they have a Macintosh stereo as an option, which is is not intergrated with the climate controls. If we can get this part number for the climate control a double din radio kit could easily be created.
I have pictures of the Macintosh, just don't know how to post it.
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:00 PM   #25
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how the frick do you guys get the door panels off? is there an easier way than hacking the crap out of the plastic piece that goes over the handle to access the screws?
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