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Old 02-18-2001, 09:48 AM   #1
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I heard that WRX's 0-100MPH is slow.... Is it true? Why?
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Old 02-18-2001, 10:39 AM   #2
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Yes it is true, I don't know why tho. Maybe bad gearing or aerodynamics? The WRX was not built for top speed, it was built to compete in rallys where speeds don't usually get into the tripple digits. Subarus are known for getting spanked on the freeway by civics and integras, but we can't be beat (easly) stoplight racing! I don't care too much, I plan on doing some lapping days and a bunch of auto xing with the WRX but it will be a BIG step up from my 97 Legacy GT! Probably give me the same feeling going from my first car a 87 GL wagon (subaru) with about 90 BHP to the GT. I thought it had so much power! haha Now it feels slow.

Is it March 2nd yet?

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Old 02-18-2001, 10:50 AM   #3
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It also depends on how they drive it in the test. Like car&driver does not drive to red line. So that make a deffence. But they are for sure not built for top speed. I mean look at the Impreza's we had before the new body can you say wind resistence.
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Old 02-18-2001, 11:05 AM   #4
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the new euro spec one is quite slow to a 100, dont know abou the U.S. spec one yet the though there hasnt been enough testing, but ive heard that both the jap spec and the U.S. spec have been tweaked for better high end then the last WRX.

the eruspec engine also might run out of steam before the U.S. one to they both redline at 7000rpms but the eurpeans peak hp is only at 5600rpm (peak torque at 3600rpm) while the U.S. 's is at 6000 rpm (and torque at 4000rpm). of course this is pure speculation who knows what the difference is in the real power band between the two. but i have heard the the U.S. impreza has been tweaked for more mid range and high end power. no one will no until more tests have been done though.

autocar got these times for the EURO spec car:
0 to 60: 5.7s
QM: 14.5s @ 95mph
0 to 100: 16.9s

o yea and the new WRX has much less drag than the last rex.

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Old 02-18-2001, 01:26 PM   #5
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Isn't there more friction with AWD? so it would make it harder to reach higher speeds?
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Old 02-18-2001, 03:46 PM   #6
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The wrx is gonna be slow from speeds around 70 or so. The new sentra se-r is speculated to run 16.3 to 100 beating the wrx at 16.9. I would be very hesitant to race either of these cars at above 60 mph cause they will most likely beat u.
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Old 02-18-2001, 04:20 PM   #7
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But that is from a start when their low torque won't matter as much. It may be a different story if you are crusing on the freeway and both punch it at the same time. Also the SE-r will have to get to the higher cam to do that and we will have max boost at 3k rpm.

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Old 02-18-2001, 04:58 PM   #8
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A few simple mods will take car of the top-end, also 2.4 seconds for 5mph is slow. That seems real questionable, the car is going flat out with 227 stock and it takes that long something is not clicking.
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Old 02-18-2001, 05:08 PM   #9
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Is anyone worried about the that the 0-100 is relatively slow? 0-100 is an important measure of performance! I want to be able to pass cars with ease on the freeway!
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Old 02-18-2001, 05:21 PM   #10
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the 16.9s was for the UK WRX.
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Old 02-18-2001, 05:25 PM   #11
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Are you talking about the old WRX's times to 100 or the new one? You have to remember that the old WRX/RS had horrible CD (coefficient of drag) numbers. In fact, the base Imprezas were better. All those scoops and spoilers really add up in the drag department. I haven't seen CD numbers for the new body style yet, but if they are lower the car will accellerate to 100 faster.

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Old 02-18-2001, 05:38 PM   #12
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The new CD #'s are lower than the old car. However, the old car does do 0-100 faster than the new one(think the old one did it in the high 14's). I think it has something to do with the added weight and possibly a change in the gearing(don't know if it was changed or not).
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Old 02-18-2001, 07:53 PM   #13
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You guys are cool. Hearing you guys step up to WRX, hehe, I just recently managed to afford a 93 Impreza FF, so will complete 2.5L awd conversion by this yr., but yoooooo yoooooo yooooooo guys have the WRX... and one bad thing for me is that I wont be able to sell this Impreza because its completely customed... hehe (forcing me to keep it and rallycar it). U guys are cool....
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Old 02-18-2001, 08:01 PM   #14
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my posts were talking about the new WRX. the new WRX is slower than the last in ever aspect because it weghs 300lbs more. this weve known for quite some time. and like i said in my original post the new impreza has much less drag than the old WRX. the new WRX has a drag coefficient of 0.33
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Old 02-18-2001, 08:09 PM   #15
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Is anyone worried about the that the 0-100 is relatively slow? 0-100 is an important measure of performance! I want to be able to pass cars with ease on the freeway!
I think you should look at in gear acceleration numbers if you're talking about overtaking. 0-100 numbers indicate acceleration from a dead stop. I don't think you'll be overtaking on the freeway from a dead stop.
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Old 02-18-2001, 09:23 PM   #16
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14.5 1/4 miles is pretty fast. is the new wrx that slow, i mean like will it still take a prelude, itr, or celica gts in highend? im considering a new wrx or a gts, if the wrx has a hard time hitting 100mph then i'd have to go back to a gts. also, doesn't the 4wd system give the wrx better take off but suffers in highend compared to a rwd or fwd car?

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Old 02-19-2001, 12:03 AM   #17
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2.4 seconds for an extra 5 mph. Am I the only one to find something wrong with that.
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Old 02-19-2001, 12:15 AM   #18
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Akiata:
Which Subarus are know for getting spanked by Hondas on the highway?!

Certainly not the turbocharged 4 that is the WRX?

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Old 02-19-2001, 12:24 AM   #19
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No I was talking about the RS and my GT. The WRX will do ok but will still lose out to the likes of S2000 and such I bet.
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Old 02-19-2001, 09:14 AM   #20
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I doubt the wrx will be able to take the ITR in the high end. I drive pretty fast on the highway and i want somthing that will really take off at speeds of around 70 mph. I have a huge delima myself. I love the wrx for its quickness and awd, and i am even getting used to the looks, but i want a car that will do good on the highway and not just stop light to stop light. The new sentra Se-r V=spec is rumored to do 16 flat to 100mph, which beats the wrx even with 47 less hp and handeling will probably be better as well (lat g that is). The current Maxima se is as fast as a wrx to 100, and in september when the new maxima se-r debuets with 280 hp, it will totally flatten the wrx from speed. The only test it might win in is the 0-60 because of traction, but when that 280hp 270tq get that car moving i would beware of racing it in a wrx. Price wise the maxima will probably be 3 grand more than the average wrx but i think it would be worth it. Its rumored to come with 18 inch wheels, and top speed will be in the 150's. If i decide to get a wrx i would certaintly be hesitant to race a itr, senrta se-r and especially the new maxima from a 60mph highway speed cause odds are in favor of the others, but thats nothing a vf22, boost controler, and exhaust wont cure in a hurry, i just dont want to have to mod my car right off to compete with these others. I hate losing races.
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Old 02-19-2001, 09:45 AM   #21
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I am going to wait to see what the magazines have to say about this issue when the car goes on sale and gets a full review. Hearing this is making me second guess my decision to get a WRX. I am used to Honda VTEC and I am wondering whether the WRX is going to feel (and be) a hell of a lot slower at 70+ mph.
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Old 02-19-2001, 09:52 AM   #22
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Can anyone from the UK or Australia respond to this? What is the acceleration like at 70+ mph? Thanks.
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Old 02-19-2001, 09:55 AM   #23
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Guys, there is an article in General about "don't let me get a GTS" or sumthing. It discusses the top-end performance of the new WRX. No Subaru has ever been a top-end type of car. Yes, yes the Pre '02 WRX's were fast, but they were still meant to be driven at sub-100 mph speeds to shine. These cars simply don't have the low Drag Co to be a top-speed monster. It takes good Aerod's to get there. The US '02 Wrx is too high in the air, and too boxy still to drive at high speeds with stability. Just the way it is. A lot of lesser-powered cars will beat this car on the highway. Ya don't see Subarus in touring races.
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I don't really care about racing or being beaten top end by a less expensive car. I'm more interested in acceleration numbers (e.g., 70-90mph) if I do have to pass someone on a 2 lane road.
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Old 02-19-2001, 10:58 AM   #25
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You`re doing 70-90 on a two lane road? Yikes.
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