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Old 06-01-2016, 11:46 AM   #1
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:02 PM   #2
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Aside from the brake checking, I think the GT driver just doesnt know how to drive. Why did he even lose control?
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:33 PM   #3
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Got checked once, goes back for more, and the second one still surprises him? Idiot.
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:38 PM   #4
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GT driver is a dumbass....brake checked and still insists on tailgating the Pilot?? well deserved crash.
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Old 06-01-2016, 01:51 PM   #5
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GT driver is a dumbass....brake checked and still insists on tailgating the Pilot?? well deserved crash.
Well, to be fair, that lane is the sole property of the GT driver and the Pilot driver is obviously and blatantly infringing on his God given right to drive without other drivers getting in his way. Isn't that how driving in "Merica" works?
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Old 06-01-2016, 02:20 PM   #6
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Certainly the tailgating isn't appropriate though neither is camping in the passing lane if you're not passing
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Old 06-01-2016, 02:24 PM   #7
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Well, to be fair, that lane is the sole property of the GT driver and the Pilot driver is obviously and blatantly infringing on his God given right to drive without other drivers getting in his way. Isn't that how driving in "Merica" works?
Who was the Pilot passing?

I'm not defending the Subaru driver, but brake checking is just as dangerous as tailgating. The Pilot driver had ample opportunity to move over as the rest of traffic in front of them had all sped up or moved over.
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Old 06-01-2016, 02:37 PM   #8
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Who was the Pilot passing?

I'm not defending the Subaru driver, but brake checking is just as dangerous as tailgating. The Pilot driver had ample opportunity to move over as the rest of traffic in front of them had all sped up or moved over.
But that would be denying his God given right to drive in the passing lane at whatever speed he feels like driving at. Isn't that how driving in "Merica" works?

By the way, your sarcasm meter needs calibration. Both drivers are mouthbreating morons.
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Old 06-01-2016, 03:00 PM   #9
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100% preventable, starting with the Legacy GT not speeding up to tailgate for a second time after the first brake check...

Also Legacy owner, not sure you thought about this, but Pilot outweighs your car significantly, this can't end well for you...

But then posts it on Youtube, and blames it all on the Pilot....

Sure, police are gonna watch your video and not also blame what happened on you...I see they can write at least TWO citations at this point...

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Old 06-01-2016, 05:11 PM   #10
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Why did the LGT not just pass on the right? After all my years on the track, I never rage on the street and just expect the rest of the cars around me are driven by morons. Yah, the Pilot driver was stupid doing the brake check (and should have a ticket for driving to endanger) but the whole thing was avoidable.
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Old 06-01-2016, 07:41 PM   #11
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Why did the LGT not just pass on the right? After all my years on the track, I never rage on the street and just expect the rest of the cars around me are driven by morons. Yah, the Pilot driver was stupid doing the brake check (and should have a ticket for driving to endanger) but the whole thing was avoidable.
That was my question as well and why I made my entitlement remarks. The bonehead could have just casually gone around the Pilot and gone on with his day. Nope, it's his lane, dammit, and he's gonna show that Pilot driver who's boss!

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Old 06-01-2016, 08:02 PM   #12
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I always wonder what the people driving next to me think they're doing ignoring the 3 second rule.

We're all going to get to the same place in about the same amount of time. There's no need to only give yourself 1 second compared to at least 3 seconds. This is why traffic jams happen. Someone slams their brakes and the rest of the herd wasn't using anywhere near a 3 second rule so we all get to enjoy congestion.

He got what he deserved. Too bad the Pilot driver didn't though. Doing something as stupid as tailgating and brake checking on public roads with INNOCENT people nearby, they both deserve punishment.
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:37 PM   #13
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When he swerved to the right, he could have just kept in that lane.........over took then reverse brake check. But nooooo he had to crash and flip.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:12 PM   #14
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The Pilot dude is an *******, he wasn't even tailgating that much. He didn't have to do that, I hate mofos driving slow in the left lane like if you have to live your life at their pace. There's too many morons out there. smfh
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:39 PM   #15
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We're all going to get to the same place in about the same amount of time. There's no need to only give yourself 1 second compared to at least 3 seconds. This is why traffic jams happen. Someone slams their brakes and the rest of the herd wasn't using anywhere near a 3 second rule so we all get to enjoy congestion.
There have been many studies done. It isn't simply about leaving "3 seconds of space", but people both observing the speed limit and the flow of traffic.

A single driver going 5 mph slower than the flow of traffic can cause congestion 5-10mi behind them.

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Why did the LGT not just pass on the right? After all my years on the track, I never rage on the street and just expect the rest of the cars around me are driven by morons. Yah, the Pilot driver was stupid doing the brake check (and should have a ticket for driving to endanger) but the whole thing was avoidable.
Not sure about the state in the video, but passing on the right in WA is a ticket-able offense.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:44 PM   #16
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The Pilot dude is an *******, he wasn't even tailgating that much. He didn't have to do that, I hate mofos driving slow in the left lane like if you have to live your life at their pace. There's too many morons out there. smfh
It's closer than it seems. The dashcam has a wide angle lens, so it seems like he's farther away than he really is. I have a dashcam and I've tested this.

Having said that, they're both ****s. The Pilot probably moreso.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:48 PM   #17
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lol wow both drivers are idiots
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:03 PM   #18
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The Pilot dude is an *******, he wasn't even tailgating that much. He didn't have to do that, I hate mofos driving slow in the left lane like if you have to live your life at their pace. There's too many morons out there. smfh
The crash kind of proves otherwise to the "tailgating that much".

If he wasn't, he wouldn't have wrecked as the result of the braking.

He got a rough lesson in lift oversteer there.
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There have been many studies done. It isn't simply about leaving "3 seconds of space", but people both observing the speed limit and the flow of traffic.

A single driver going 5 mph slower than the flow of traffic can cause congestion 5-10mi behind them.
The alternative has worse results and 3 seconds is only a starting point, not the be all and end all solution. Driving faster does not make it anymore safer.

People going with the flow who clearly can only do one thing and that one thing being keeping the same speed as everyone else is like the worst kind of peer pressure you could HOPE to follow. It's like everyone hiking and climbing at the same speed when clearly someone can't do much else besides keep up the pace. It's the perfect ingredient for a disaster.

But hey, if only the Pilot and Legacy driver got hurt, I'm totally fine with idiots doing idiotic things AS LONG AS no one else gets hurt or dies. They could set off nuclear bombs at each other and I'd be fine with it as long as it didn't adversely affect the rest of us in any shape or form.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:41 PM   #20
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Not sure about the state in the video, but passing on the right in WA is a ticket-able offense.
Not in this case. You can pass on the right in WA under the following conditions, one of which is multiple lanes of travel in the same direction, as was the case in the video...

RCW 46.61.115
When overtaking on the right is permitted.
(1) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:
(a) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn;
(b) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.
(2) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway.
[ 1975 c 62 23; 1965 ex.s. c 155 18.]

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The GT driver could have legally passed the Honda on the right if this was in WA.
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:45 AM   #21
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Aside from the brake checking, I think the GT driver just doesnt know how to drive. Why did he even lose control?
Indeed. I've swerved harder than that in my OBW many times and didn't lose control.
Maybe his tires are bald and/or his suspension too stiff?
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Old 06-02-2016, 01:08 PM   #22
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LGT wagons get rear tail happy from what I've read. Should have had Stab Control though
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LGT wagons get rear tail happy from what I've read. Should have had Stab Control though
Every car is tail happy when you do that to it. Driver error with the inputs.
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Old 06-03-2016, 12:21 AM   #24
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Both of these people were in the wrong, and I'm not defending at all the Honda guy, but there is a difference between the slight-tap that's just enough to light up your brake lights and say "back off", and the actual slamming on the pedal to rapidly decrease your speed to panic the tailgater.

Just because someone wants to drive 20 over the limit doesn't mean it's the job of everyone else to bow down to his needs. If I'm passing right lane traffic, it's not my responsibility to either speed up to 90 for the car barreling on me or move over and get behind below-speed-limit cars to get out of his way. With that said, I am a strict observer of left lane awareness.

I realized years ago that it is not my job to enforce any sort of moral or legal judgement on other drivers...and I've been mostly good at abiding by that. You never know what kind of whackadoodle you're teaching a lesson to by brake-checking or even flipping off who might decide to shoot you and teach you a lesson too. Of course, every tailgater is an idiot too because there are a number of drivers out there looking to get paid from someone hitting them.
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Old 06-03-2016, 12:30 AM   #25
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Well, no, actually, in pretty much all states, it in fact, IS your legal obligation to move to the right when a car is quickly gaining on you in the left lane.
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