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Old 08-29-2014, 10:30 AM   #1
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Default Dealership oil change intervals...

My lady drives a 2013 wrx, and was told by Heuberger subaru that she is getting her oil changed too frequently. She payed for free oil changes for the life of the car, so we do it at the dealership.
Every 3k mi, is what I've told her to do. Even though that's more frequent than what the schedule calls for.
Without getting into a fight over what oil is used, I ask, is every 3k mi what everyone else is doing? Is the factory oil change schedule what is to be followed? I just don't see why every 3k would be frowned upon.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:35 AM   #2
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It's a waste of oil. Every 5,000 miles is fine nowadays...
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:37 AM   #3
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I do mine between 3.5 and 4k, and have my dealer do every other change since they stick to the 6k interval and will only give me free changes if I wait that long, so I do it myself in between that

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Old 08-29-2014, 10:39 AM   #4
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It's a waste of oil. Every 5,000 miles is fine nowadays...
It certainly is fine, it's really a subjective topic that isn't worth debating Lol, some people don't mind spending more on oil due to higher frequency of changes and some do.

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Old 08-29-2014, 10:41 AM   #5
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It certainly is fine, it's really a subjective topic that isn't worth debating Lol, some people don't mind spending more on oil due to higher frequency of changes and some do.

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Oh yeah, you're not going to hurt anything changing your oil more frequently. It's just an additional cost (time & $)...
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:43 AM   #6
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Oh yeah, you're not going to hurt anything changing your oil more frequently. It's just an additional cost (time & $)...
Exactly, I'm sure you've seen threads that contain large debates Lol, you'd think people were talking about a cure for cancer..

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Old 08-29-2014, 10:48 AM   #7
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Exactly, I'm sure you've seen threads that contain large debates Lol, you'd think people were talking about a cure for cancer..

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Old 08-29-2014, 10:50 AM   #8
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My dealership told me this: "You should bring it in every 5k, but if the car were mine I'd do it every 3k." They even increment the window mileage for every 3k.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:54 AM   #9
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Ughh.

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Old 08-29-2014, 10:55 AM   #10
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3K OCI in the EJ is smart. Synthetic 5W30.

That covers all use of the vehicle. The synthetic prevents the turbo from producing coke. It eliminates the need for UOAs.

Peace of mind has no dollar sign to me. Between 2900 and 3100, erring on the short side depending on timing, has been as low as 1800 on one fill of Idemitsu 5W30 junk in my STi. 2900-3000 in my '15 WRX's FA... because unknown. Expensive? Pretty much nothing compared to my value of this car, and my Peace of Mind.

My OCIs are the result of my driving, hard use when used and low miles overall per year.

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Old 08-29-2014, 10:59 AM   #11
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I'm going to miss my 10k interval on my Audi aren't I? Once every 9-10 months was nice.
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:00 AM   #12
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LOL... I love that the dealer is complaining after selling a package that includes free oil changes!!! Lots of money has been spent trying to get people to change their oil every 3K miles in advertisements... 5K seems to be the norm now in new cars but personally if the dealership sold me free oil changes I would take advantage of that every 3K miles too

I still believe in the Break in Period 1K oil change even know the dealer told me they don't do these anymore either
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:01 AM   #13
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There are two oil change intervals in the manual. 7500 miles and 3750 miles depending on your driving conditions and type of driving (lots of stop and go). Tell the dealer you read the owners manual and feel that your wife's driving style aligns with the 3750 mile change interval and you don't want to get a denied warranty claim by Subaru for not following the owners manual.

I also get free oil changes at my dealership and they have never had an issue with following the owners manual.
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Best, most politically correct, and most unarguable answer.
And it is wrong.. It used to be 3750 miles in the 2011 manual. In 2012 Subaru removed the 3750 and it just reads 7500 now. Even though the engine is the same.. That said, I took my car in at 3500 miles and the dealer did the free oil change with no questions asked.
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:09 AM   #15
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3K OCI in the EJ is smart. Synthetic 5W30.

That covers all use of the vehicle. The synthetic prevents the turbo from producing coke. It eliminates the need for UOAs.

Peace of mind has no dollar sign to me. Between 2900 and 3100, erring on the short side depending on timing, has been as low as 1800 on one fill of Idemitsu 5W30 junk in my STi. 2900-3000 in my '15 WRX's FA... because unknown. Expensive? Pretty much nothing compared to my value of this car, and my Peace of Mind.

My OCIs are the result of my driving, hard use when used and low miles overall per year.

YMMV
This coming from someone who resets his ECU regularly.

OP, follow that magical owners manual in the glove box.
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:09 AM   #16
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My lady drives a 2013 wrx, and was told by Heuberger subaru that she is getting her oil changed too frequently. She payed for free oil changes for the life of the car, so we do it at the dealership.
Every 3k mi, is what I've told her to do. Even though that's more frequent than what the schedule calls for.
Without getting into a fight over what oil is used, I ask, is every 3k mi what everyone else is doing? Is the factory oil change schedule what is to be followed? I just don't see why every 3k would be frowned upon.
Thanks in advance.
They're saying she's getting the oil changes too frequently because when she paid for oil changes for the life of the car, they planned on every ~5k miles over the course of 100k miles life of the vehicle. That's 20 oil changes.

If she's doing it every 3k, she's going to hit their profit line at 60k miles, which is early.

There's no harm in changing oil earlier than planned. There's also no reason to do so, especially if you're paying for it.
Follow the factory manual. If you go in early, you go in early. See above for why they're frowning upon it. If they keep giving her grief, talk with them about why, but make sure you read the fine print on the agreement for free oil changes. If it says "per maintenance schedule, based on life of vehicle being 100k miles" you may be SOL.
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:20 AM   #17
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So Subaru used to state 3750 miles for severe driving conditions, 7500 miles for normal.
Then they removed the 3750 mile recommendation for severe driving starting in 2012.

For the 2015 (yes totally different engine) it is 6K miles for normal and 3K miles for severe. Odd that the got rid of the severe recommendation for 2012-2014 model years..

I follow the severe schedule due to the temperatures here, which may explain why my dealer never had issues with more frequent changes after Subaru changed it.

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Old 08-29-2014, 11:27 AM   #18
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This coming from someone who resets his ECU regularly.

OP, follow that magical owners manual in the glove box.
The same "magical owners manual" that cost untold EJ motors before Subaru changed their tune and required synthetic instead of dino oil, and 3750 OCI instead of 7500??
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The same "magical owners manual" that cost untold EJ motors before Subaru changed their tune and required synthetic instead of dino oil, and 3750 OCI instead of 7500??
5w30 being the issue. Well that and the over blown "omg Subaru motors blow up daily" myth.
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:39 AM   #20
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5w30 being the issue. Well that and the over blown "omg Subaru motors blow up daily" myth.
Your grasp of EJ history needs broadened.

5W30 was always specified, and the "omg Subaru motors blow up daily" was originally due to dino oil coking and plugging the screens in the oil lines... exacerbated by the long OCI.

But I'm sure you already know that, don't you?
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:54 AM   #22
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It's an oil thread.. Wait till Uncle Scotty rolls in...
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:17 PM   #23
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My dealer told me 3750, but they aren't paying for my oil changes either. I go about 4k but am not using subaru oil and do the changes myself.
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Your grasp of EJ history needs broadened.

5W30 was always specified, and the "omg Subaru motors blow up daily" was originally due to dino oil coking and plugging the screens in the oil lines... exacerbated by the long OCI.

But I'm sure you already know that, don't you?
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Old 08-29-2014, 02:14 PM   #25
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I just got my free first oil change. Since I did not pay for unlimited oil changes, they told me that I should stick the 3.5k miles per oil change because of the turbo. I smelt a little BS with that statement, but your situation confirmed my suspicion.

Dealerships are looking to max profits. So they will tell someone who has to pay for oil changes to do them at every 3k miles. However, they cannot make max profits on you now. Hence why they want you to extend the time between changes.

The way I see it... It's your car; you do them however often you want.
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