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Old 06-16-2004, 12:54 PM   #1
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Default clay bars and Wolfgang, Klasse paint sealers

I've been looking around for a good paint sealer and I've narrowed it down to either Wolfgang or Klasse. When I searched, I could only find opinions on Klasse though. Anyone try Wolfgang?

Also are all clay bars basically the same or do some have advantages over others besides how big they are?
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Old 06-16-2004, 03:57 PM   #2
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Also are all clay bars basically the same or do some have advantages over others besides how big they are?
Barring size as a deciding factor, I have yet to come across a clay bar that performed so well as to make me spend more money than I do now. I usually use the Clay Magic kit that I pick up at my local auto parts store for $9.99. I've used others that held up better, but Clay Magic works just fine considering the cost.

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Old 06-16-2004, 04:03 PM   #3
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Have you searched the Interior & Exterior Modification & Care forums? They discuss this kind of stuff six ways to Sunday.

http://www.autopia.org/ is a forum dedicated to cleaning cars and they have no shortage of opinions either.
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Old 06-16-2004, 04:21 PM   #4
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When I searched, I could only find opinions on Klasse though. Anyone try Wolfgang?
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Eaglesfan2422, go to Autopia and enter 'Wolfgang' for the search...I found 368 topics so you should find the information you're looking for there.
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You asked him if he tried a search of the Interior/Exterior forum. I was only pointing out that he already said he searched these forums (in case you missed it). No need for the condescending remark.
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Thanks for the link. I'm giving Wolfgang a try first. I'll probably end up trying both sometime down the road, but WG seems to be much easier to work with than Klasse, although Klasse seems to protect much better.
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people in autopia say that wolfgang is easier than klasse, but I really havent had a problem with klasse. Also, those bottles will sure last a very long time. (3 years or so)

as for claying, clay magic or megs clay system are very good. Pick out the cheapest one
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It's hard to comprehend something being easier to use than Klasse AIO. That stuff is smooth, easy, simple and shines like crazy. I've not tried Wolfgang since the Klasse has worked so well for me...not much reason to try something else.
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That's what I figured with the clay, I only plan to detail my own car so I don't feel like I need to buy an expensive clay when they should all work about the same, except harder clay is a bit more aggressive so I'll just look for a softer clay to start.

glepko, I've heard that AIO is easy to use, but the paint sealer is the tough one.
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Old 06-23-2004, 10:04 AM   #11
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Klasse AIO is easy to use. Just remember that it is a polish, so you want to work it in a bit on the paint. A PC(Porter Cable) random orbital buffer works great for this using a White foam pad.

Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (KSG) is easy to use as well, you just have to learn some techniques for application.

One thread on Autopia discussing AIO and KSG application.
http://www.autopia.org/forums/showth...threadid=12590

Another on KSG application only, this is the Wipe On/Wipe Off method.
http://www.autopia.org/forums/showth...ght=Bill+North



Use very thin layers. 1.5 to 2 oz's of KSG product is PLENTY to do a whole car. I have used layers of 1oz. to coat an F-150 in the past and this has worked fine. I use a bottle with oz increments marked on it, put 1oz of KSG in the bottle and use that to apply. This way I can track how much KSG I have applied to avoid using too much.



Autopia folks have conducted "tests" to determine if the Wipe On/Off method results in any decreased durability/shine/etc over the wipe on, let dry for three hours, and wipe off. NO DIFFERENCE was found between the two methods.

The REAL difference is that Wipe on/Wipe off allows you to remove KSG easily. If the stuff starts to dry, it becomes tacky and harder to remove. The best course then is to let the stuff dry for several hours and come back for easy removal.

Remember thin coats are best, using a slightly water dampened Micro Fiber applicator.

Good luck!
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