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Old 02-11-2001, 03:23 PM   #1
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Post Warning about GnzFlow.

Forst things first - It is great lookig and performing system.

HOVEWER - My Gen.2 intake is a bit too long. Cuz engine is moving the tube was pushed more insude of the fender and being sait that it is too long it left some nice inside-out bumps on the fender.

I took it out and cut a peice and that should do it.

Just wanted to let everyong know.

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EDIT: Sorrie far spooling mistakes.

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Old 02-11-2001, 03:36 PM   #2
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Thanks for the headsup. I just received mine and never thought about that. I will be sure to consider that when I do the installation.

Has anyone else had this problem before?

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Old 02-11-2001, 04:06 PM   #3
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I installed mine two weeks ago, had to cut off about a 1/2 inch after I noticed the outer fender. It was an unexpected hassle but the intake looks and sound great. No noticable loss low end and it pulls much better through the mid-upper ranges.
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Old 02-11-2001, 04:16 PM   #4
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Gee guys - didn't you think I would want to know about this? When something like this comes up, please email the vendor and let them know so they can look into it. I might have missed this post on iclub.

Interestingly, I have been selling this style version 5 intake for over 2 months, and out of 80 shipped you two above are the only ones who mentioned anything, just now here in this post. I will start shipping them all with the inner fender end cut shorter by 1/2 - 1 inch. I need to get Boris in here (he had the prototype test car) and look at his original V5 GanzFlow and see if his has moved too far into the outer fender, because we had plenty of clearance with his test car when we first installed it (MY00 coupe)...

Thanks for the heads up.

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Old 02-11-2001, 04:41 PM   #5
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Larry!!!!!

Sorry, man! I was about to e-mail you tomorrow from work.

I noticed strange bumps on my fender and figured it is your intake. I guess that is why stock has a flex peice built in. Well, anyhow - It is great peice!

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Old 02-11-2001, 04:44 PM   #6
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I installed mine yesterday and I noticed a inside bump from trying to pry it in there. I'm going to check to see how much space is between the intake and fender before I cut it.

Ok. I checked it and it has to be cut. I'll cut it 3/4 inch just to be safe.

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Old 02-11-2001, 07:51 PM   #7
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Actually I noticed mine was a little long too. Dont think I got any bumps from it though. *shrug* kept meaning to cut it, but never got around to it.
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Old 02-12-2001, 09:57 AM   #8
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Thanks! I will update the instructions at www.imprezars.com/images/installganzflow.pdf - to be sure not to push the intake too far into the inner fender - you don't want to contact the outer portion of the fender and ding it from the inside out during the install. I am not convinced the ding occured from reving the engine. We had more than an inch clearance with the prototype, and I wonder if they changed the design.

Probably just inserting it into the hole in the inner fender an inch, and slowly working it in until you can get the other end of the intake onto the silicone hose you attached to the air box is the best way.

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Old 02-12-2001, 10:43 AM   #9
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Is the "Gen.2" of 25psi's the same one as the "Version 5" Ganzflow? a bit confused.

Also, what do I use to trim the pipe if needed? I will install mine next weekend.

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Old 02-12-2001, 10:58 AM   #10
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A hacksaw works great. Mine was a bit too long also. In fact I tried it the way it was designed and although the car revved easier I didn't that much of a difference. Additionally I got a K&N cylindrical filter (6" dia by 6" long) with a 3" connection and thought I'd cut even more a little more off the Ganz flow tube and mount the cylindrical filter on the end of the tube (similar to other intakes). I then made a heat shield out of aluminum to mount between the filter and engine. The filter in the air box has been removed and replaced with just a gasket.
performance over the version 5 ganzflow? I think it revs a little easier and there's a little more power at the high end. But that's just by butt dyno. I think my version looks cooler (personnal opinion though).
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Old 02-12-2001, 11:18 AM   #11
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I was thinking of cutting the tube at an angle, maybe to scoop the air coming from the bottom vent. Just an idea
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Old 02-12-2001, 04:38 PM   #12
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Okay,

I just spent 1/2 hour looking over Boris's car with the first Version 5 GanzFlow intake - there is NO WAY the intake can touch the inside of the outer fender and dimple the sheet metal outwards due to engine torque pushing it in - period. Can't happen. This is the good news!

The intake, when ATTACHED to the airbox and then pushed as far as it can physically go into the inner fender, is still almost 1.5" away from the outer sheet metal near the bottom of the inner fender, and at least 1.25" away from the sheet metal towards to top. It is in the front hole so tight and solid, and the angle of the intake is such that it cannot penetrate into the hole farther than this while still attached to the air box.

So, it has to be occuring during the installation, while the intake is still angled forward and can go in too deep IF one is not careful. We could NOT make it get any closer to the sheet metal of the outer fender while the other end was attached to the air box. But it is possible to disconnect it from the airbox, swing the airbox end forwards, and push the intake into the fender at an angle to touch the sheet metal.

Therefore, even if I cut off 1/2 - 2" from the end, no matter what length the intake is, it will be possible to hit the inside out the fender sheet metal during the install if you are not careful and push it in more than a couple of inches.

This is reasuring to me that the design is good, but in no way implies that anyone who experienced the dimple problem doesn't know what they are doing. It is possible for anyone to try pushing the intake into the tight hole (with the hose and silicone adapter on the tube making it tight) and have it slip in too far during the install.

Fortunately it is proven to be a rare event.

Thanks everyone,

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Old 02-12-2001, 05:01 PM   #13
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forgive me if i should know this information but who makes the ganzflow intake is it the same as the cobb tuning intake or does this intake have a similar problem that i should know about. What are the performance differences on this intake as compared to the cobb tuning PRM. Or are they the same thing. I have no idea.
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Old 02-12-2001, 05:27 PM   #14
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Sory Larry.

I totally buy it. It MIGHT had been my own fault. But also, of course it might have not...

Thanks for an update.

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I haven't had any problems with mine (v.5, I think, 2.5" one piece), and look at my fender:<IMG SRC="http://216.242.153.40/MembersList/UserPics/2565/dent.jpg" border=0>
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Yep, there is the best proof that the intake doesn't come very close to the inside of the outer fender's sheet metal - even with that aerodynamic mod of his fender leaving less room inside, the intake doesn't leave a mark.

Sorry about your misfortune, hopfully someone will NOT come by and make the other fender symmetrical with this one?

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I just figured I would add the intake for the extra power, AND cut down on the frontal area at the same time! Didn't work as well as I thought it would, but it does give me a "unique" look. Great intake, by the way! I pimp it every chance I get. Anything on the stickers yet?

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BMW MAN - Larry (AKA ImprezaRS dot com) makes the Ganzflow intake. www.imprezars.com

Hmm. The Cobb sticks into the rear hole. Is is possible that people are putting the Ganz in the rear hole which is closer, therefore the intake is too long? On the '01s there is a black plastic cover on the front hole.
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Old 02-13-2001, 09:56 AM   #19
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I just went out and checked my newest version of Larry s intake .At least for mine ,aint no way that pipe should hit the inner fender. Ive got at least an inch and a half clearance.Just make sure you have the fitting on the airbox tite and all the way pushed back on the airbox and the intake pushed into the fitting all the way.
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Horatio102 - I believe it would be impossible for anyone to stick their intake into the wrong hole (that doesn't sound right) without seriously bending or otherwise modifying the GanzFlo pipe. The way Larry has designed the intake, it can only go into the correct hole. (and the instructions posted on Larrys site clearly shows the front hole, and specifies that you'll need to remove the plastic cover -- also suggests that you may cover the rear hole).

So, no, it could not fit in the wrong hole.
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