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Old 06-17-2004, 05:27 PM   #1
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sorry for asking this, I know its been anwsered a thousand times...whats the part number for the EJ22-t Oil Pump. I did search a little its just that this dial up blows goats....


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Old 06-17-2004, 05:33 PM   #2
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1st, check my site for some info : http://users.adelphia.net/~wedge138/

2nd, Part # is 15010AA105
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Old 06-18-2004, 08:43 PM   #3
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thanks for the reply wedge, site is lookin good. can't wait to get this project rolling...just waiting on an engine hoist and some new internals. on more question, wedge did you get your crank balanced, I understand the stock cranks are balanced very well from the factory because of the layout of the flat four is naturally balanced.


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Old 06-19-2004, 03:42 PM   #4
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I didn't get it balanced at all. I just had everything checked, and was told it was well under specs. (This was from a 150k mile car).

The engine feels VERY smooth, and Clark even commented that he's never felt an EJ engine with forged pistons run that smooth.

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Old 06-20-2004, 01:03 PM   #5
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Ok, I'm still thinking about getting it balanced while its out and in my hands.

Maybe its totally not necessary and its more of an old V8 thing...but I figure it can't hurt


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Old 06-20-2004, 02:20 PM   #6
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Not to beat the crap out of a dead horse but... I think some of the info on your page is wrong Wedge, the 2.2 block that is out of the legacy isn't the same as the block that came in the 22B.

The 22B block is a bored 2.0 litre motor and does not have oil squirters (and was semi closed, I believe.)

I'm not saying the EJ22 "Turbo" that came in the Legacy isn't a great block, it may very well be better than the 22B block. What makes the 22B is the heads and tuning that went into it.

Unless you found some concrete information otherwise, then I'd love to see it.

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Old 06-20-2004, 05:25 PM   #7
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Yeah, I know, it's been beat to death. I'm just going from what Mark Ramirez stated, since I pretty much followed his footsteps on my project.

He stated here : http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...5&pagenumber=2
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Yes, the T.legacy is the same short block as the infamous 22B impreza. Please don't argue with me on this. I am right. I am positive. End of story.
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Old 07-09-2004, 04:04 PM   #8
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Yeap - Wedge is right. The blocks ARE the same. I am not going to debate this either anymore. It has NOTHING to do with the heads, the block is fully closed deck.

Advise... if you are getting a 2.2T block, get an EJ22T oil pump.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:13 PM   #9
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I got to poke around inside the engine bay of a real 22b at the pikes peak hill climb, There is most definately the turbo legacy block in those things.
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:55 PM   #10
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do they have that extra oil passage beside the alternator? (22b)
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Old 07-11-2004, 12:57 PM   #11
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yep... I poked around for quite a long time and couldn't see anything different from my EJ22t
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Old 07-11-2004, 04:11 PM   #12
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sweeeet hehehe
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Old 07-11-2004, 06:34 PM   #13
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Not to beat the crap out of a dead horse but... I think some of the info on your page is wrong Wedge, the 2.2 block that is out of the legacy isn't the same as the block that came in the 22B.

The 22B block is a bored 2.0 litre motor and does not have oil squirters (and was semi closed, I believe.)

I'm not saying the EJ22 "Turbo" that came in the Legacy isn't a great block, it may very well be better than the 22B block. What makes the 22B is the heads and tuning that went into it.

Unless you found some concrete information otherwise, then I'd love to see it.

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i've heard this from serveral people in the UK too. the 22B block is NOT closed and does NOT have oil squirters.. isn't that enough info alone to prove the 22b and ej22t blocks are different.
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i've heard this from serveral people in the UK too. the 22B block is NOT closed and does NOT have oil squirters.. isn't that enough info alone to prove the 22b and ej22t blocks are different.
Hmm, then if it's NOT closed deck, then someone should tell the www.22b.com people to "update" their site.

http://www.22b.com/22bhistory.htm

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Cylinder Block Aluminium Alloy Closed Deck
We're gonna settle this once and for all.......the next 22B I come by, I'll make sure to teardown the shortblock and take pics!
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Old 07-11-2004, 08:49 PM   #15
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Hmm, then if it's NOT closed deck, then someone should tell the www.22b.com people to "update" their site.

http://www.22b.com/22bhistory.htm



We're gonna settle this once and for all.......the next 22B I come by, I'll make sure to teardown the shortblock and take pics!
my bad on that.

still doesn't prove the block is the same. what about the oil squirters?

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http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimateb...=000616#000001

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Old 07-11-2004, 11:44 PM   #16
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I'm pretty sure that I saw the EJ22 stamp on the block, along with the slightly different color silver from the higher density material of the legacy block.... but who knows... they could have just swapped a turbo legacy block into the thing because it was a purpose built rally car.
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Good find kid.
This gets even better! If what they say is correct about the 22B block NOT having oil squirters........then in the end of the argument, WE (USA) got the better shortblock in our 91-94 Legacy Turbos!

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Good find kid.
This gets even better! If what they say is correct about the 22B block NOT having oil squirters........then in the end of the argument, WE (USA) got the better shortblock in our 91-94 Legacy Turbos!

Doin the "Happy Dance"!
but they got the better heads.

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Old 07-12-2004, 01:01 AM   #19
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that thread gives no evidence as much as other threads that state the opposite...

there are numerous people (xephyr, john banks (i think) and other UK folks) that confirm that the ej22t IS the 22B block.

but what is so important about this? makes no difference really.... since the EJ22t is more superior hehe.
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yeah, doesn't make any difference.

ej22t is and always will be my first choice of blocks. too bad i don't have one to play around with.
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Does anyone know if the 22B has a shorter intake manifold like the wrx? It would be nice to get ahold of some 22B heads and intake manifold, but then again, it would be next to imposible.
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Old 07-12-2004, 10:59 AM   #22
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I really think it was just modified Ver 5 or whatever items in that engine.. Maybe some kind of higher tech RA version of the time. I don't want to say its nothing special, because I love that car as much as anyone else... but I don't think they redesigned a lot...

btw still my dream car after the GT2 or 3 hehe..
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22b or not 22b? That is the Question!

This debate apparantly started with Shakespeare, and this debate will continue as long as there is a NABISCO. Who gives a rat's ass? EJ22T is the best block you can get in the US *IF* you can find one. Good Luck!
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Old 07-12-2004, 12:29 PM   #24
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I still don't know how its hard to find... just buy from dealers...
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I could get about 20 used ej22-t blocks right now if I wanted to. However, I happen to know that the shortblock assembly for a 22b costs an exorbinate amount of money and you have to provide proof you own a 22b (read- old block) to get a new one. So there had to be some changes made.

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