differences between Curb weight and Gross Vehicle Weight ?

Extraze · 06-22-2004, 10:14 PM

so im at the subaru of Canada web site

and i dont understand the (big) difference between the curb and gross vehicle weight ??

anyone know the difference ? wich one is the actual weight of the vehicle ?

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BeeGee · 06-22-2004, 10:32 PM

Curb weight is the weight of the vehicle full of all fluids, including a full tank of gas, but no passengers.

Gross weight, as I understand it, is the weight of the vehicle with passengers.

Jon [in CT] · 06-22-2004, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeeGee
Curb weight is the weight of the vehicle full of all fluids, including a full tank of gas, but no passengers.

Gross weight, as I understand it, is the weight of the vehicle with passengers.

I agree with your curb weight defintion. I believe that gross weight is the maximum weight limit - limiting the amount of stuff you can carry.

Uncle Scotty · 06-22-2004, 11:05 PM

Gross weight is the total weight of a vehicle with driver and passengers, cargo fuel, coolant, any options or accessories, and tongue weight if towing.

Curb weight is the weight of an empty vehicle, without cargo and driver and passengers, but including maximum amounts of fuel, oil, coolant and standard equipment, including the spare tire and tools.

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Extraze · 06-22-2004, 11:15 PM

the difference is huge though ..

taken from the Subaru of Canada website ...

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STI GENERAL WEIGHTS
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Curb weight (6MT) (kg) 1484

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) (kg) 1880

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the difference is close to 900Lbs ...

licwyd7755 · 06-22-2004, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Extraze
the difference is huge though ..

taken from the Subaru of Canada website ...

--------------------------------------------------------------------
STI GENERAL WEIGHTS
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Curb weight (6MT) (kg) 1484

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) (kg) 1880

--------------------------------------------------------------------

the difference is close to 900Lbs ...

900lbs.... about the weight of 4 fat people or 5 skinny people... gross weight is like they said... the weight of the car plus the weight of the max # of passengers, at least this is what autotrader.com thinks

Brad Pittiful · 06-22-2004, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by licwyd7755
900lbs.... about the weight of 4 fat people or 5 skinny people... gross weight is like they said... the weight of the car plus the weight of the max # of passengers, at least this is what autotrader.com thinks

i would say 4 heavier people and 5 thinner people...lets look at the chart

900 divided by 4 is 225

900 divided by 5 is 180

Extraze · 06-22-2004, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Pittiful
i would say 4 heavier people and 5 thinner people...lets look at the chart

900 divided by 4 is 225

900 divided by 5 is 180

now thats alot of grap on my tired potential !

Brad Pittiful · 06-23-2004, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Extraze
now thats alot of grap on my tired potential !

grappage rules

ChrisL2 · 06-23-2004, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Pittiful
i would say 4 heavier people and 5 thinner people...lets look at the chart

900 divided by 4 is 225

900 divided by 5 is 180

It also takes into account luggage. So if your carrying a bunch of cargo, that is going to reduce the amount of heavy people you can carry

sdogg3kgt · 06-23-2004, 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by Brad Pittiful
grappage rules

Vlad · 06-23-2004, 08:57 AM

The curb weight SHOULD include the full tank of gas, but for some reason, it doesn't. My car's curb weight 3085 LBS did quite not show that way, when I had it at the truck weighing station. It showed 3160 LBS with a freshly topped gas tank. I went on 2 separate ocasions, to make sure there's no mistake.
I needed the number for dyno purposes.
There is a tread about real weight of WRX, many people post other numbers than 3085. I'm talking about a stock car.

DrBiggly · 06-23-2004, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Extraze
now thats alot of grap on my tired potential !

DrBiggly · 06-23-2004, 01:14 PM

Now that I made a worthless post...

I weighed my car recently at an autox. There have been quite a few mods to the car as far as weight was involved. (light crank pulley, add dynamat, add wiring, subtract stock stereo, add aftermarket stereo, add amp, add bigger foglights, add JDM lights, add 17s, only Kumho MXs (light).

This is with spare tire and crap removed from the trunk and 1/2 tank of gas? 3035lbs.

You could easily get your car below that for a race weight with:

1) Change exhaust and lose some of the extra weight.
2) Remove crap from the glovebox and center console.
3) Remove junk from trunk.
4) Little gas!

This should put you just under 3000lbs for a sedan; not sure on the wagon.

licwyd7755 · 06-23-2004, 06:42 PM

glad i could help you guys out just to let u know i'm 6'4' so i think thinking 5 people who are six 4 but that wouldn't be realistic. but when u add the lugage in it all makes sence...

let me know if u need any more grappage/grap 420

licwyd7755 · 06-23-2004, 06:50 PM

so how much grappage/grap does it take to get rid of this scoobie newbie title?

Jon [in CT] · 06-23-2004, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by licwyd7755
so how much grappage/grap does it take to get rid of this scoobie newbie title?

You registered here 15 days ago. Relax.

DrBiggly · 06-23-2004, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by Jon [in CT]
You registered here 15 days ago. Relax.

Good advice.

There's a FAQ on it; 555 posts.

licwyd7755 · 06-23-2004, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon [in CT]
You registered here 15 days ago. Relax.

I knew someone was going to say that
I was just joking,
I don't even have a car right now much less the impreza that i've been dreaming about for the past few years, but i'll prolly be gettin a wrx soon, so i signed up to learn some stuff. I'm realy not trying to spam ya'lls sight to death

I thought the number of posts answer might be in the faqs but i figured The topic question had already been answered about 10 times and the thread has gone to *h**, y not be crazy, just this once...

It seams to me if u can take the time to bitch about it u can type the three word anser that everyone knows. It just seems people are a little to quick to jump on you for asking something stupid (not talkin bout u Jon [in CT] just in general, realy most people would say a lot worse to someone tryin to spam thier way to subie guru {which i'm not}) thanx for the effort DrBiggly.

Nasioc is the first board of any kind I have ever posted on, i'm still learnin the ropes.

alright i'll shutup now.

DrBiggly · 06-24-2004, 12:26 AM

Not a problem.

06-22-2004, 10:14 PM	#1
Extraze Scooby Specialist Member#: 16980 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: QC, Canada Vehicle: 2009 FXT White	differences between Curb weight and Gross Vehicle Weight ? so im at the subaru of Canada web site and i dont understand the (big) difference between the curb and gross vehicle weight ?? anyone know the difference ? wich one is the actual weight of the vehicle ? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

06-23-2004, 08:57 AM	#12
Vlad Scooby Specialist Member#: 46135 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NY Vehicle: 2002 WRX WRB	weight The curb weight SHOULD include the full tank of gas, but for some reason, it doesn't. My car's curb weight 3085 LBS did quite not show that way, when I had it at the truck weighing station. It showed 3160 LBS with a freshly topped gas tank. I went on 2 separate ocasions, to make sure there's no mistake. I needed the number for dyno purposes. There is a tread about real weight of WRX, many people post other numbers than 3085. I'm talking about a stock car.

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06-22-2004, 10:32 PM	#2
BeeGee Scooby Newbie Member#: 27724 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Vehicle: 2003 WRX Wagon Silver	Curb weight is the weight of the vehicle full of all fluids, including a full tank of gas, but no passengers. Gross weight, as I understand it, is the weight of the vehicle with passengers.

06-22-2004, 11:05 PM	#4
Uncle Scotty Scooby Guru Member#: 16200 Join Date: Mar 2002 Vehicle: bah straw and coal straw and coal as always	Gross weight is the total weight of a vehicle with driver and passengers, cargo fuel, coolant, any options or accessories, and tongue weight if towing. Curb weight is the weight of an empty vehicle, without cargo and driver and passengers, but including maximum amounts of fuel, oil, coolant and standard equipment, including the spare tire and tools. From carlist.com

06-22-2004, 11:15 PM	#5
Extraze Scooby Specialist Member#: 16980 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: QC, Canada Vehicle: 2009 FXT White	the difference is huge though .. taken from the Subaru of Canada website ... -------------------------------------------------------------------- STI GENERAL WEIGHTS -------------------------------------------------------------------- Curb weight (6MT) (kg) 1484 Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) (kg) 1880 -------------------------------------------------------------------- the difference is close to 900Lbs ...

06-23-2004, 01:14 PM	#14
DrBiggly Scooby Guru Member#: 11482 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Winston-Salem, NC Vehicle: 02 WRX Acute Stickeritis	Now that I made a worthless post... I weighed my car recently at an autox. There have been quite a few mods to the car as far as weight was involved. (light crank pulley, add dynamat, add wiring, subtract stock stereo, add aftermarket stereo, add amp, add bigger foglights, add JDM lights, add 17s, only Kumho MXs (light). This is with spare tire and crap removed from the trunk and 1/2 tank of gas? 3035lbs. You could easily get your car below that for a race weight with: 1) Change exhaust and lose some of the extra weight. 2) Remove crap from the glovebox and center console. 3) Remove junk from trunk. 4) Little gas! This should put you just under 3000lbs for a sedan; not sure on the wagon.

06-23-2004, 06:42 PM	#15
licwyd7755 Scooby Newbie Member#: 63635 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Chester Vehicle: 04 Impreza There is no T in Impreza!	glad i could help you guys out just to let u know i'm 6'4' so i think thinking 5 people who are six 4 but that wouldn't be realistic. but when u add the lugage in it all makes sence... let me know if u need any more grappage/grap 420

06-23-2004, 06:50 PM	#16
licwyd7755 Scooby Newbie Member#: 63635 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Chester Vehicle: 04 Impreza There is no T in Impreza!	so how much grappage/grap does it take to get rid of this scoobie newbie title?

06-24-2004, 12:26 AM	#20
DrBiggly Scooby Guru Member#: 11482 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Winston-Salem, NC Vehicle: 02 WRX Acute Stickeritis	Not a problem.