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Old 10-16-2000, 01:48 PM   #1
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Post Has anyone had any experience with supercharging?

Has anyone had any experience with the Rimmer supercharger?
I have been considering the for some time now, but would like some input from those who know.
Was it hard to install?
Price?
Performance?
Durability?
Problems?
Thanks for the insight -Speed
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Old 10-16-2000, 02:06 PM   #2
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I've talked to them recently... they're not taking orders at the moment... (maybe they're trying to fill the orders from 1998?)
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Old 10-16-2000, 02:08 PM   #3
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If you do a search you will find lots of info.

Here are the answers to your questions:

[Was it hard to install?]

Not really, the drain line is a bear becasue you have to remove the oil pad to do it right. If all of the components would have been properly manufactured and/or included in the kit it would have gone a lot faster.

[Price?]

The kit listed for $3420.

[Performance?]

None - it didn't work at all and I removed it before any serious damage was done.

[Durability?]

Hard to say since it was on the car for less than 1 mile.

[Problems?]

Other than the fact that it took about 8 months longer to materilize than promised and that it didn't work at all, there were no problems.

As far as I know, there is not one single MY2000 or MY2001 out there that has a supercharger installed and that runs properly, if at all. Al Gainy (ARG here) has sucessfully installed the supercharger on his 1999 using a lot of hard work.

Nick - stop it you're making me laugh too hard .

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Old 10-16-2000, 02:27 PM   #4
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I'd like to supercharge MY00 RS but haven't been able to find much info on them (beside the info found on Rimmer's site).
If you guys find ANY info, please post. I'd really appreciate it.
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Old 10-16-2000, 04:30 PM   #5
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TRI tuning is working on one. ETA january I think.
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Old 10-16-2000, 05:47 PM   #6
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Old 10-16-2000, 06:11 PM   #7
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Thanks for the responses. Is there a Turbo system that anyone could suggest that would be easy to install/reliable? I know there is alot of junk out there, price is not so much an issue as quality (I think it would be alot cheaper to do it right the first time than to replace the motor!).
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Old 10-16-2000, 06:40 PM   #8
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If price is not the issue, get a haltec or tech II type engine management system first. There are quite a few very different kits out there. Best thing is to research them through and through and go with the one that YOU like best, and that will fir YOUR needs. Reliability and price depends on the boost you want to run..... Up to 7 psi I think you can get away with slightly better than stock fuel system, (RX 7 pump with SX fuel pressure regulator), stock ECU with piggybacks. ANYTHING over that = "Go to town" and SPEND the $$$$!
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Old 10-16-2000, 07:14 PM   #9
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See, this is why I thought the supercharger would be better, It really doesn't seem that much fun building a turbo car. I got a little discouraged after reading the articles in SCC. In a perfect world, I would get what jackson racing is building for those civics, just bolt and enjoy. Ah, but we don't live in a perfect world...
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Old 10-16-2000, 11:42 PM   #10
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Brandon Grantham of Rimmer Engineering sent me an email stating that the kit for 2000 has been perfected. The 2000 issue has been resolved. Now if Rimmer would only refund some money for past deposits, maybe more of you would have superchargers.

I have a system that works very, very well. And as proof, there will be an article/write-up on my personal car by Rev Magazine in a few weeks.

I like superchargers. I can't speak for Rick Rimmer or his business practices but i can say that Brandon Grantham will help you put a kit together for your 99 or 00 Impreza.

If you would like to email him personally, here is his email: bsg951@earthlink.net

There are several people on the board that have had bad experiences with Rimmer Engineering. They are Geoff Sloan, Robert Ohlhausen, and Nicholas Gibbs. Now, all three of these guys are good people, and I understand the crap that they have been through trying to get a deposit back, but that doesn't distract from the fact that the kit does work for me and now works for anyone with a 2000.

Deal with Brandon directly and you won't be disapointed.

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Old 10-17-2000, 12:59 AM   #11
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rao - Oh yeah... so have they sent you that new tensioner yet?

Oh yeah, they "fixed" the MY00 issue by copying that one guy's hack (from brazil, I think) by voltage clipping it and adding a RRFPR. Big fix... I'm willing to say that JCS's "little black box" does a better job and noone knows what that thing does.

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Old 10-17-2000, 01:10 AM   #12
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I have "dealt" with Brandon before, hehe. Asked him for a ride in his supercharged RS and he asked me for $50 for a new clutch. I know I have said it like 10 times already, but it was so ridiculous and rude that I just can't forget it.

Elephants never forget...
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Old 10-17-2000, 06:06 AM   #13
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*drool*....mmmm.....Supercharger.......
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Old 10-17-2000, 06:28 AM   #14
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Any of you guys try PowerDyne superchargers? Seem to work quite well on 6 cyclinder cars (M3 is what I saw it on) and are self lubricated for life - no oil needed. I think their homepage is http://www.powerdyne.com . I say give it a go.
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Old 10-17-2000, 06:54 AM   #15
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After the install, Brandon *knew* that the problems that I was having were due to an intake leak (most likely due to my poor installation skills). Even after I uninstalled and reinstlled the kit to check for any leaks (there were none), the only solution offered by Rimmer (through Brandon, Rick was apparently too busy to work on a solution to my problem) was to keep looking for a vacuum leak. Once I realized that they had never installed the kit on a MY2000 car (long story, but I did figure it out), that's when I decided to remove the kit from my car.
NOW there is a "fix" to a problem that they swore didn't exist! BTW, the problem was not solved by Rimmer or Brandon, or by copying what Disraeli Wever in Venezuela did, but the work around was done by someone in Pennsylvania. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Old 10-17-2000, 08:46 AM   #16
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I wonder, It should be possible to build an N/A motor that makes as much power as a stage one turbo for right around the same price, right? I mean, cams, exaust, intake, throttle body.... It would definatly be more reliable... (I really want a supercharger, though!)
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Old 10-17-2000, 11:55 AM   #17
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i built a cardboard model of the powerdyne. that's thing is a freekin cinder block and a half! it wont fit under our hoods.
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Old 10-18-2000, 09:31 PM   #18
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hello guys, well the discusion about the Rimmer kit begins again.. so here we go...

It`s true that my impreza 2.0 comes with a fuel injection system based on MAP sensor readings as 2000 and later US rs, those are all the same thing, the trouble that the turbos or supercharger ocasionates is related with a lean condition... the secret is the MAP voltage we all know that for now... so I only made researches about what could be done... clamping was a good idea, and the people of J&S electronics took and order from me and for a couple of customer here in Venezuela, with the same trouble in other imprezas, and hondas... so, I began to read the ouput voltage from MAP staying N/A, I thought that the clamping was needed to be set at the same volatge under forced induction characteristics... something around 3.87 v at maximun load... but my findings were diferent, I remember I put it and I had the same trouble, but how??? I have losted all my hopes, and then just coming back to home form the car shop, I sttoped on red light and I turn the j$S fuel controller full clockwise... and VOILA!!!!!!! the pull was amazings, the knocking was reduced, at this time I still have the supercharger in my car with more than 15000 miles and no trouble.. ok let`s be honest it was very frustrating and It needed hard working... for example... I needed to put the walbro Jackson Racing fuel
pump, EGT, elec. Fuel pressure gauge, Air fuel ratio, etc, the ITC and the rimmer kit came to me with the 2005 begi fuel pressure riser... I remember, when I had no ITC and fuel controller, I have to dial very, very hard with the aquamist water injection system 2s (with 2 bar map sensor) to avoid pinging.. it worth the time... the next trouble to deal was about ITC and the mistery of the Check engine light that I was told in this forum it could appear for some kind of misfire... my friend and I installed that using the diagram where shows the same negative sensor signal, and VOILA!!!, no CE never!!!!!!!!!!... no hesitation, no nothing.......

There is certainly a trouble the eaton blower gets hot very fast.. and is you run 7 psi with it, you are over the limits running on 95 octane gas that here in my country we put everyday (very cheap)...... the rimmer kit is good for 5 psi (not intercooled)--- on 2000 rs with ITC (well hooked) a good fuel pump and fuel pressure riser, and some spark plug colder and the j$S fuel controller and an MSD knocking alarm when you got to lower surfaces in order to dial the itc some degress.. that`s it!!!!!!

WE also have here one impreza full engine work (balanced, forged low compresion BPM pistons, head polished and ported) and the rimmer supercharger running 7-10 psi... we are in breaking period with this.. but I know that the low compresion characteristics didn`t take that much of power from the engine, and it keeps the OEM seal, gaskets and bolt in good conditions... of course next step will be a turbo with some king off stand alone computer for complete engine managment... but we are just testing and getting interesting results....
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