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Old 06-26-2004, 01:44 AM   #1
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cant get the bracket off! i see my only option is to take the ps lines off. my q is if I take them off i will have to replace or bleed the ps fluid and how to do this? thx
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Old 06-26-2004, 02:57 AM   #2
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easier with two people. And you don't have to move the lines. Look at Scoobymods and see if they have a writeup. Or, do a search in this forum for more info. I've done several with no major problems.

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Old 06-26-2004, 05:12 AM   #3
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just did it. it was a huge pain on the drivers side, but i managed to force the bracket off by pushing the bottom end (when you're under there looking up at it) up and towards the front of the car (and angled "/"a touch). i bent all lines down by about a cm. remember, the rack moves around alot when the passenger side is unbolted, so try shimmying it around a little. if you think the bracket was hard...wait till you have to rotate that square bushing...rotating a square in a square hole is a bee-otch.
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Old 06-26-2004, 05:12 AM   #4
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Old 06-26-2004, 05:12 AM   #5
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Old 06-26-2004, 08:55 AM   #6
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Use a small prybar or a big screwdriver and bend the lines an ars hair.. Jesus.
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Old 06-26-2004, 03:13 PM   #7
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Just did mine last night. Big PITA. not the installation part but, the part when I tried to remove the forward bolt that holds the driver's side bracket. When I broke out the half inch drive and tried to loosen it, something just didn't feel right.

Turns out, that the threads were all messed up and the bolt was garbage. Oh well, got everything apart and got the new bushings in. Put the passenger side back together first and then did the drivers side. I left the front bolt out and went to get my tap so I could chase the thread. Turns out, that the tap I needed was the only one that I didn't have. M10 1.25 FYI. So, that car sat till this morning when I ran to the hardware store and got the right tap and a replacement bolt. 12 hours after the installation started, I got it finished.

If you have penetrating oil, use it. It just might save your threads.

Bushings feel great. Didn't really think I would feel much of a difference but, yup, it's definitly noticable.

That's my story.

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Old 06-26-2004, 05:38 PM   #8
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This is odd, how everyone is having all these issues with the steering rack bushing install...

I think I need to make a .mpg of how to do it right
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Old 06-26-2004, 09:01 PM   #9
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I'd love to see it.
My bushings are soon to arrive.
You probably would be doing us all a huge favor.
How about posting it on Scoobymods.

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Old 06-26-2004, 11:49 PM   #10
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Well I have to find someone locally who wants to install some, then film it, then post it I was just proposing the idea... But I have the camera now to do it.
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Old 06-27-2004, 01:21 AM   #11
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i just installed my passenger side tonight. it was a pain in the ass. i kept thinking to myself, "this is the easy side?!"

i didn't have time to do the other side (tomarrow) but i drove around for a bit, and i honestly cant feel a shocking difference. the right side feels a little more direct and linear (meaning, the steering feel i consistent) is that what im supposed to be feeling?

bah, never again.

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Old 06-27-2004, 02:01 AM   #12
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Go around a corner and let go of the wheel. The wheel will snap into place faster. Also, throw the car into a corner, you can definatly tell then.
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Old 06-27-2004, 08:13 AM   #13
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Go around a corner and let go of the wheel. The wheel will snap into place faster. Also, throw the car into a corner, you can definatly tell then.
True.. it's a small yet noticable difference.. worth every penny.

If you're not mechanically inclined to do the job yourself, pay your local grease monkey to do it and quit complaining.. all this hype about how difficult the job is will scare off people, I wasn't going to do them since everyone made this job sound harder than an up-pipe (another easy job). It took me forty five minutes to do both bushings!

BillJC, my threads were partially stripped on one bolt, luckily I was able to use a 1/2 drive ratchet to run it home. Many people are having thread issues, too, go figure.
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:06 AM   #14
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If you're not mechanically inclined to do the job yourself, pay your local grease monkey to do it and quit complaining.. all this hype about how difficult the job is will scare off people, I wasn't going to do them since everyone made this job sound harder than an up-pipe (another easy job). It took me forty five minutes to do both bushings!
It took my local shop less than an hour to do it. Very noticeable improvement. Now and then I get the urge to test drive a Legacy GT and maybe trade in my OBS, but the bushings on top of a few other tweaks make it hard to part with.
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:20 AM   #15
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True.. it's a small yet noticable difference.. worth every penny.

If you're not mechanically inclined to do the job yourself, pay your local grease monkey to do it and quit complaining.. all this hype about how difficult the job is will scare off people, I wasn't going to do them since everyone made this job sound harder than an up-pipe (another easy job). It took me forty five minutes to do both bushings!

BillJC, my threads were partially stripped on one bolt, luckily I was able to use a 1/2 drive ratchet to run it home. Many people are having thread issues, too, go figure.
your right, it's not a hard job...but there is technique to it, and if you miss a step it makes it alot tougher.

i thought i had thread issues too, but it was just alot of rust on the threads (go canada )

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Old 06-27-2004, 01:40 PM   #16
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I'm starting to make a habit out of running a thread chaser in every bolt hole now before I run the bolts back in anything. Might save a few headaches.

Mine probably siezed in one of my multiple trips to Tahoe durning the winter. No big deal, just added a little headache.

"Thread chasers and penetrating oil on everything."

Should be a bumber sticker.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:50 PM   #17
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Just did mine last night. Big PITA. not the installation part but, the part when I tried to remove the forward bolt that holds the driver's side bracket. When I broke out the half inch drive and tried to loosen it, something just didn't feel right.

Turns out, that the threads were all messed up and the bolt was garbage. Oh well, got everything apart and got the new bushings in. Put the passenger side back together first and then did the drivers side. I left the front bolt out and went to get my tap so I could chase the thread. Turns out, that the tap I needed was the only one that I didn't have. M10 1.25 FYI. So, that car sat till this morning when I ran to the hardware store and got the right tap and a replacement bolt. 12 hours after the installation started, I got it finished.

If you have penetrating oil, use it. It just might save your threads.

Bushings feel great. Didn't really think I would feel much of a difference but, yup, it's definitly noticable.

That's my story.

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wow, i have the same problem. my forward passenger side bolt stripped the nut on the way out. i see that you used a M10x1.25 tap. did it hold it properly? what setting did you torque that bolt down to once you were finished tapping? which auto parts store did you go to? sorry for all the questions. but i wanna get this fixed so i can drive the car.

isn't the bolt M10x1.25? if so, how can you use the same size tap to thread the nut? i thought you had to go slightly bigger in size. b/c there are absolutely no threads left on that nut. they were all wrapped around the bolt. thank you so much for your help
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What I did was just run the tap through the threads to clean them up. What happend to me was that the bolt stripped and messed up the threads. I just ran the tap through because I didn't habe a thread chaser to clean it up.

As long and the threads aren't too messed up, you can just run a tap through and be fine. As for the torque setting, I just used my 1/2 drive until it felt good and tight. No need to get technical. Just make sure you use thread locker on the bolts and there shouldn't be a problem.

As for sources for tap kits? Sears has a great selection and would probably be easiest.
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Old 07-01-2004, 10:56 AM   #19
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Another hint to make the driver's side busing easier is to loosen the steering shaft, I think that's what it's called. This allows you to drop the rack down a little further to get the bushing on and much easier in my opinion. And there is definitely a difference in steering feel. The next morning driving to work on this S turn I over compensated and almost ran off the road. I definitely removed some of the "slop" in the rack and tightens thing up greatly.
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What I did was just run the tap through the threads to clean them up. What happend to me was that the bolt stripped and messed up the threads. I just ran the tap through because I didn't habe a thread chaser to clean it up.

As long and the threads aren't too messed up, you can just run a tap through and be fine. As for the torque setting, I just used my 1/2 drive until it felt good and tight. No need to get technical. Just make sure you use thread locker on the bolts and there shouldn't be a problem.

As for sources for tap kits? Sears has a great selection and would probably be easiest.
thanks for the help. got that hole rethreaded. i can drive 'spiritedly' again
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Old 07-01-2004, 06:08 PM   #21
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i can't belive so many people are having problems with this. I found the hardest part to be getting the drivers side bushing on correctly. Loosening the rack didn't seem to get me enough room so I just dropped the whole thing down, which helped a bit more. Just make a good mental note the way the rack was oriented and try not to move it too much. It does help to have an extra hand for this installation.

I thought the difference was very noticeable after driving though a few twisties.
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I thought installing a TBE on a ramp was a pain...was i wrong. This driver side bushing is my hardest install ever....well worth it though!
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:11 PM   #23
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I thought installing a TBE on a ramp was a pain...was i wrong. This driver side bushing is my hardest install ever....well worth it though!
How can you be a "specialist" if you had a problem with the steering rack bushing?
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:31 PM   #24
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GT2 is from the time when you only needed 55 posts to be a specialist
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:29 AM   #25
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I gave up worrying about becoming a "specialist" a LONG time ago, which is fitting because any advice I can give is usually what not to do, where not to do it, who not to do it with, and when is the best time to get in trouble doing it.

this post was just to get one step closer to specialist though...
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