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Old 07-21-2004, 06:29 PM   #76
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sigh... who knew one could be so jealous of metal...

not just about hot girlfriends anymore....
Fortunately I have one of those too, and she still tolerates me! Barely...
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Old 07-21-2004, 07:08 PM   #77
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I was JUST going to type "don't tell me you have one of those you have too"
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:49 PM   #78
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Congrats, Sean!

Let us know when you will be making the next appearance at Moroso. I would love to be there to see the beast in action.
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Old 07-22-2004, 11:13 AM   #79
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I was JUST going to type "don't tell me you have one of those you have too"
HOK,
I think between the two, it used up all of my luck. I keep losing at dice.

Winston,
I'll post before the next Moroso journey. Let's see what she's made of!
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:12 PM   #80
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I know it's a lot to ask with so much involved, but my brother is currently looking at doing nearly the same thing, and is having some problems adding up to get a nice ballpark figure. So, if possible, what is the $ figure for parts only on basically the same setup? Maybe give or take a little money on the extra parts like FMIC and clutch, etc., that the person picks themselves.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-22-2004, 11:31 PM   #81
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i do believe sean got the setup from kingpin, he (kingpin) might be able to give you a ballpark figure.

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Old 07-23-2004, 02:53 AM   #82
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I know it's a lot to ask with so much involved, but my brother is currently looking at doing nearly the same thing, and is having some problems adding up to get a nice ballpark figure. So, if possible, what is the $ figure for parts only on basically the same setup? Maybe give or take a little money on the extra parts like FMIC and clutch, etc., that the person picks themselves.

Thanks in advance.
Firgure $4 to $5k for the long block harness and ecu, $1k in parts to install, $1k in parts that you forgot or broke along the way, $500 to $1k+ for ecu. $5k for a 6 speed more if you wan the rear diff and gold shiny brakes. Adding aftermarket parts like a front mount new turbo and such might add up to $30-$40k when all is said and done.
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:30 AM   #83
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Toto is pretty accurate there:

$4500-5K for complete engine and ECU
$1500 - $2000+ for an acceptable turbo
$800-1000 for a TBE
$600-1000 for EM
$3500-4K for rear clip (R180, propshaft, axles, Brembos, hubs, subframe, trailing and lateral links, etc.)
$3500-4K for the 6MT
$1600-2K or so for the front brakes, hubs and axles
$1000-1500 for a suitable clutch (you could go with an Exedy 3-puck race for $500, but you'll eat it pretty fast)
$1400-1500 for an FMIC
$500-1000 for parts and wierd tools to install everything and parts that break
$500-1000 for other stuff (catch can, fuel pump, BOV, etc.)
$1500-$3000 for wheels and tires
$1000-2500 for suspension upgrades

= $21900 - $29500 in mods, before you count the car or the installation time or the tune.

Someone will probably help you out with a bit of a package deal for throwing all of the parts together.

Good luck. Call a good importer/builder to get them to line this stuff up for you.

-Sean
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:18 PM   #84
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If you want to stay current, move over to the Engine Management and Tuning thread that is ongoing!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=598710

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Old 07-30-2004, 09:33 AM   #85
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More Pictures!!!

Just got it in...


RC injectors vs STi. The RC on the left is from the first batch that didn't fit. The one on the right is from the batch that did - a shocking difference in machining! The poor STi looks so sad...


Here is what the RC looks like installed - notice that the screw from the side of the rail does not line up anymore. The RCs come with big, fat spacers for the rails (at the main two screws) to make them fit, and they fit leak-free on try #1...


Here are the shielded pairs of wiring connected to the E1 connector in the engine bay. I got pins from a Honda harness in a salvage yard. The wiring pairs came from MSD, makers of ignition components. I could not find shielded wiring anywhere, so I wound up buying these pre-terminated kits, and breaking off the MSD terminals to get down to wire only. They are beautiful, but the cost $25 EACH, and I needed 2. Agh!


Here is the ECU side of the deal. Notice the 2 shield ground wires terminated into one pin and then connected. The ECU pins came from a Nissan harness. I wired them into the chassis harness, and then plugged them right into the UTEC. Fortunately, the UTEC includes all pins at rev6 and up, even those it does not use.


Here we are getting a lot closer. We just had to put on the hood and troubleshoot at this stage.


-Sean

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Old 07-30-2004, 11:52 AM   #86
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That front mount looks right at home in there, do you think you have enough turbo to fill up all those pipes?
so when are you going to do water injection?

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Old 08-04-2004, 09:52 AM   #87
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Toto is pretty accurate there:

$4500-5K for complete engine and ECU
$1500 - $2000+ for an acceptable turbo
$800-1000 for a TBE
$600-1000 for EM
$3500-4K for rear clip (R180, propshaft, axles, Brembos, hubs, subframe, trailing and lateral links, etc.)
$3500-4K for the 6MT
$1600-2K or so for the front brakes, hubs and axles
$1000-1500 for a suitable clutch (you could go with an Exedy 3-puck race for $500, but you'll eat it pretty fast)
$1400-1500 for an FMIC
$500-1000 for parts and wierd tools to install everything and parts that break
$500-1000 for other stuff (catch can, fuel pump, BOV, etc.)
$1500-$3000 for wheels and tires
$1000-2500 for suspension upgrades

= $21900 - $29500 in mods, before you count the car or the installation time or the tune.

Someone will probably help you out with a bit of a package deal for throwing all of the parts together.

Good luck. Call a good importer/builder to get them to line this stuff up for you.

-Sean
Best Sleeper on the road.... priceless.
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Old 08-04-2004, 10:24 AM   #88
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There is that

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Old 08-04-2004, 10:49 AM   #89
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Sean didn't I tell you that I had some extra wire? I have shipped it out to severeal people, and I still have enough for 2-3 more people. I have been shipping it out for $15 to anyone who has asked me about it.
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Old 08-04-2004, 03:05 PM   #90
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You joke? AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!



I wasted three hours calling electronic supply places. I wasted at least 2 hours going to places. Finally, I went by a local speed shop and got lucky - they had these packs of single-pair shielded wire by MSD. Really nice stuff. It took me 10 minutes with a hammer to get off the terminals.

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Old 08-04-2004, 06:32 PM   #91
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oh, in that case I was just joking!


On a totally unrelated note, I do happen to have some more of the wire needed to do this install for anyone else who wants it. Also it is 4 element + sheild, so you only need to run one strand.
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Old 08-04-2004, 06:40 PM   #92
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I heard that the 4-element wiring would give you issues, as the shield is on the outside of all four wires. I suppose you've NOT had issues? That would be easier if only because it saves you the step of splicing and soldering the two grounds together before soldering on the pin.

I wish I'd know you had this stuff before! In any event, it wasn't bad to get it working, once I found the proper pins and devised a pin-release tool by grinding down a jewler's screwdriver on a die-grinder. I'm a tool-fabricating man - I'm not sure I've ever done an install on my car without having to fabricate some kind of tool.

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Old 08-04-2004, 07:43 PM   #93
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I have had no issues. I looked at the remanents from the harness that came hacked on the motor and I believe it had all 4 together so I went with it. As I said I sent it out to several people and none of them have complained, and mine worked from the first time.
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Old 08-04-2004, 08:01 PM   #94
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Good to know. Thanks! I wish I'd known you had this before! That, or I could have hunted up an old piece of token-ring STP. Now THAT's shielded wire.

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Old 08-04-2004, 09:22 PM   #95
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sooooo awesome....and i'm jealous. Great write up and pics. Congrats man the wagon looks AWESome
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Old 08-11-2004, 02:22 PM   #96
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Sean,
Do you have any pics of the damage a boost tube can do to the fender of an 04 wagon when it blows off at 1.9 bar?
Just Curious

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Old 08-11-2004, 02:44 PM   #97
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I'll have to borrow Béa's camera and snap a shot of it. I don't like to think about it.

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Old 08-13-2004, 04:23 PM   #98
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couple of questions for you:

- does your 6MT have the DCCD? if so is it functional?
- are you using the STi ABS computer and modulator or do you have ABS disabled?

I ask because I have a friend here in SLC that purchased a complete rear-end wrecked MY04 USDM STi and swapped *EVERYTHING* over onto his GC (engine, transmission, rear end, brakes, dash, steering wheel, seats, etc...), and he couldn't get the ABS to operate correctly, and therefore the DCCD didn't work either so he just unhooked it and left it alone.

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couple of questions for you:

- does your 6MT have the DCCD? if so is it functional?
- are you using the STi ABS computer and modulator or do you have ABS disabled?

I ask because I have a friend here in SLC that purchased a complete rear-end wrecked MY04 USDM STi and swapped *EVERYTHING* over onto his GC (engine, transmission, rear end, brakes, dash, steering wheel, seats, etc...), and he couldn't get the ABS to operate correctly, and therefore the DCCD didn't work either so he just unhooked it and left it alone.

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His tranny doesnt have dccd..

I am running an STI rear just like Sean's setup and the abs just plugs right in.. I know on the older GC's the plugs are different, we went through this with my friends car. He left ABS disabled which was not the best idea..

Cant you just cut off the plug on the RS and then rewire a new age one on?
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Old 08-13-2004, 05:03 PM   #100
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we went through this with my friends car. He left ABS disabled which was not the best idea..

Cant you just cut off the plug on the RS and then rewire a new age one on?
won't forget that day.

Yea all i had to do was cut off the connector and splice the new one on. Both 2 wires. Best part is i had my back seats out for the longest time, could've done it in 20 seconds. Oh well.
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