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Old 05-28-2014, 10:02 PM   #1
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Cool Ready to be a first time Subaru owner! 2013 sti sedan or 2015 sti purchase help

Ok I want to keep this rather simple. On Saturday I'm going to the dealership to buy my first subaru. I owned an Evo for 3 years and loved it however it's time to trade in my truck and my another sedan. Yesterday I went to subaru of Las Vegas and test drove a 2013 sti sedan, it has 13000 miles and they are asking $34000. The drive was amazing, short but made me very excited. I'm ready to do this. Car drove perfectly (as far as I could tell) and was a total blast. The grumble even with the stock exhaust was much more satisfying than my evo's note (even with the t67 and open waste gate I had modified it with). Now after the drive I saw the new 2015 sti (both are dark gray, not my first choice but I do like it quite a bit now that I think about it) and it's only $2000 more than the used 2013 model with an asking price of $36000! So I ask the people of NASIOC... what would you do if you were in my shoes? And why did you come to that decision? I will test drive the 2015 on Saturday come game day but I'm kind of lost. I've done some research but I think the feedback from this will help me make a more confident decision. Thanks in advance everybody!
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:17 PM   #2
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Honestly...I would check out the new wrx. It's got a new engine platform that will have tons of potential once people figure it out. Yes it's not the STI but the fact that it produced more torque should show you what this engine can do. It would save you a bit more money that you could put towards it later but that's just my opinion. I wouldn't overlook the wrx but if you already got your mind set.

It all comes down to what look you like better as well.
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:51 PM   #3
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Thanks for your feedback, I did notice the wrx and it's torque coming on quicker than the sti but I'm not worried so much about the actual power rather than the car and the way it drives, the road feel, a drivers car and the refined suspension and gearbox. I just don't know if the little extra is worth the different body style and the things they changed mechanically.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:09 PM   #4
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Thanks for your feedback, I did notice the wrx and it's torque coming on quicker than the sti but I'm not worried so much about the actual power rather than the car and the way it drives, the road feel, a drivers car and the refined suspension and gearbox. I just don't know if the little extra is worth the different body style and the things they changed mechanically.
That's what pushed me--as a first time Subaru owner I like the "known" EJ257 plus the gearbox, hydraulic steering, and brakes. (all under warranty)
I can definitely, definitely understand the excitement of some of these veterans that are about to tear into the FA20 though...
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:13 PM   #5
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That's what pushed me--as a first time Subaru owner I like the "known" EJ257 plus the gearbox, hydraulic steering, and brakes. (all under warranty)
I can definitely, definitely understand the excitement of some of these veterans that are about to tear into the FA20 though...
It's definitely got some good potential, but only time will tell what the FA can show us.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:26 PM   #6
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And from what I read the wrx transmission will bring issues upon modifying even with the supposed strengthened six speed.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:45 PM   #7
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If you're set on getting the STI, then I would definitely recommend the 2015, you'll be getting much more car for the money. The 2015 handles better than the evo with virtually no understeer (which has always been an issue) and you're getting more power right out of the box with a much better powerband than the 2013. Plus the interior is said to be a pretty considerable upgrade.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:13 AM   #8
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If you're set on getting the STI, then I would definitely recommend the 2015, you'll be getting much more car for the money. The 2015 handles better than the evo with virtually no understeer (which has always been an issue) and you're getting more power right out of the box with a much better powerband than the 2013. Plus the interior is said to be a pretty considerable upgrade.
Pretty much summed it up. And the warranty
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:14 AM   #9
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To the OP -

Get the 2015. Why would someone offload a 2013 with so few miles unless it had issues imo?

That being said, I think you should keep the EVO, depending on year and how it's running. I had an STi for 5 years and loved it. But around 100k these things are ticking timebombs.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:21 AM   #10
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It all comes down to what you are looking for. The new STi gives you a completed/refined package with full support of already matured aftermarket parts. If you're a frist time STi owner, I'd highly recommend the new STi over the GR STi.

Like scikoticWagon said, also check out the new WRX. IMO, I see some good potential in the future.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:22 AM   #11
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Keep the truck, since trucks are awesome.
Buy the 2015 sti. Just like everybody else here has mentioned about the power and handling vs the 2013 sti.. and the interior.. and pretty much everything to be honest.
Plus, you get the new car smell which is worth the $2k
But seriously the warranty brand new might save you in the future if anything were to happen.

and the new car smell

Goodluck!
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:52 AM   #12
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Thanks guys, you are all very convincing, it makes a lot more sense now. Is it generally better to wait for after the first year an sti is launched though? Just in case problems arise that were overseen during trial and testing before the consumer release? Does anyone think the 2013 would be more reliable because it's generation has been out and about with slight improvements each year since 2008? Or should I not worry about the 2015's reliability because subaru technica has been at it for so long? 100000 miles for a ticking time bomb scares me considering I'm trying to get something newer so I can finally keep and pay off a vehicle for the first time that I actually enjoy and want to keep after a few years lol
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:04 AM   #13
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I would be hesitant to spend that much on a used STI.

But you need to let the test drive make the decision for you. Drive both cars back to back. I would also try to drive a 2015 WRX as well.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:22 AM   #14
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And from what I read the wrx transmission will bring issues upon modifying even with the supposed strengthened six speed.
I read it was reinforced by dragon's breathe.


To the OP, asking people you don't know what they think about what car you should purchase is pretty pointless. Personally, getting a car 2 years newer with 13,000 less miles, a better interior, a (I think) better exterior, slightly improved transmission, improved throttle response, stiffened chassis, and better suspension is well worth $2,000. I'm going with the WRX because it handles pretty much like a 2013 STI yet has the new FA20DIT for $8k less. No, it doesn't have an Aisin gearbox, DCCD, etc. but I don't really think I need that for a fun daily driver with the occasional curvy road.

Test drive both and decide. No one else but you knows what you value.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:22 AM   #15
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From everything I've read and seen on here, the 08-2014 sti's have pretty good chances of ringland failure (depending how driven and mods done/boost). Used STi is scary. No matter who drove it. Sports cars are beaten on, maybe not all the time but the occasional launch or rip in between gears (3rd gear for us GR owners) people will agree and disagree with me, but I say nono to used sports cars.. especially STi's. With these cars I wouldn't worry about first model year changes. Completely new remodel of everything I'd **** my pants first MY but from all the hype subie has given and all the feedback every vendor and customer has given I'd feel fine getting a 2015.

and what the guy said above. try the 2015 wrx, maybe you'd still want the sti but at least you'll know you made the right choice knowing how both drive
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:05 AM   #16
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A lot of good information this is a great turn out NASIOC thanks everyone. I'm going to attach the link to the used 2013 sti i drove and I would really appreciate some feedback on what everyone thinks I should pay for the car if I decide to go that route. Just FYI the owner traded the car in to the same place he bought it for the new 2015 sti. Certified pre owned even though I know that doesn't mean much. http://www.subaruoflasvegas.com/cert...b3cd82c395.htm
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:15 AM   #17
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Oh and their listing says limited but it is not. It does not have the sunroof or full leather seats. I'm pretty sure it's just the base model.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:50 AM   #18
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Perrin just wrote a great article on the new WRX/STI. Give it a read, it may help you with your decision. For what you are looking for, it sounds like you will appreciate the 2015 STI over the 2015 WRX and 2013 STI. Here's a link to the article: http://blog.perrinperformance.com/20...d-sti-exposed/
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:59 AM   #19
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Unless you get an insane deal on the 2013 or just don't care for the looks of the 2015, there is no reason not to go with the 2015 model.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:04 PM   #20
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that 34k for the 2013 is a bad deal dont do it. I paid 29k for a 2011 with 10k miles.

for your choices i would go with new, but at this point wait and order the color/options you really want
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:26 AM   #21
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Thanks for all the advice and input, I'm pretty sure I will be getting a white or black 2015 sti base as soon as one pops up within a reasonable distance.
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:15 AM   #22
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And drive the "base" 2015 WRX as well....the bang for buck on them vs. the STI is crazy high especially with the 2015s. And call your insurer and ask them for pricing on 2015 WRX vs 2015 STI vs. 2013 STI....it may very well sway your mind.
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