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Old 07-01-2004, 01:15 PM   #1
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Exclamation New Jersey Drivers/Owners Take Note

-Drivers: People found guilty of unsafe driving, a lesser charge that drivers often plead down to in traffic court, will pay a $250 surcharge.

-Each new tire purchased in New Jersey will have a $1.50 tax that lawmakers say will help pay for street cleanup.

-Drivers of new and leased cars will be asked to pay four years of vehicle-registration fees up front. A buyer who previously paid $56 will be asked to pay $224 - but would not have to return to the MVC until 2008.

-Drivers found guilty of using a cell-phone, can face fines from $100 to $250. Hands-free units are still legal. This offense is a secondary in nature.
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Old 07-01-2004, 01:20 PM   #2
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Default Re: New Jersey Drivers/Owners Take Note

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...This offense is a secondary in nature.
meaning that they can't SPECIFICALLY pull you over for it, but that they have to catch you doing something else (ie. speeding) and if you're on your phone they can slap you with both, correct?
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Old 07-01-2004, 01:21 PM   #3
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WOW! A whole $1.50 more per tire?! That's it, I'm moving out of this state.
















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Old 07-01-2004, 01:29 PM   #4
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I like the cell phone part the best.. People are idiots when talking on them.. worse than drunk drivers in some case (both kinds of drivers suck, dont get me wrong). I hope to see less businessmen, moms in suv's, or other people in general not paying attention to where theyre going on the road because they have to talk on their phone. If its that important, pull over or get a hand free set..



however, i dont agree with the secondary offense... If a police officer is following someone and sees that, he should have the right to pull over.
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Old 07-01-2004, 02:15 PM   #5
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-Each new tire purchased in New Jersey will have a $1.50 tax that lawmakers say will help pay for street cleanup.
I hope that includes Rt. 80 and 287 where there's tons of ripped off tire tread from the stinking 18-wheelers.

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Old 07-01-2004, 02:18 PM   #6
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-Each new tire purchased in New Jersey will have a $1.50 tax that lawmakers say will help pay for street cleanup.
That's great, so passenger car owners have to pay the tax for the truckers who usually get retreads and won't get taxed....
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Old 07-01-2004, 02:23 PM   #7
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I like and dislike the new hands free set law. First its so easy to drive while its on and talk BUT it is SOO annoying to get the thing on fumble with the cord and you still have to pick up the phone to answer it or dial!!??
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Old 07-01-2004, 02:39 PM   #8
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SJP,

I agree it is a pain. I hope that the cell phone laws across the world will facilitate the adoption of Bluetooth in phones and cars. It is so nice to be able to talk on a BT headset when driving and it is much safer as you do not have the cord flying around.

As car makers place BT in the cars and allow the system to interact with your phone, you will have handsfree systems which can interoperate with different types of phones.
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Old 07-01-2004, 03:17 PM   #9
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-Drivers found guilty of using a cell-phone, can face fines from $100 to $250. Hands-free units are still legal. This offense is a secondary in nature.
I'm originally from NY and this law was implemented awhile ago...initially people were pretty mad, and I was too...but once you realize how much focus you loose once you have to talk on the cell phone, the hands-free set is a lot safer.

but, they should just do away with cell phones while driving, because it's not just the talking that's distracting, it's picking up your phone, dialing #'s and texting that is the MOST distracting...I was on the parkway the other weekend and this girl in a freakin Jeep goes and cuts off 4 lanes of traffic and I look over and she's texting!
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Old 07-01-2004, 03:42 PM   #10
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-Drivers: People found guilty of unsafe driving, a lesser charge that drivers often plead down to in traffic court, will pay a $250 surcharge.
If conclusive proof was ever needed that speeding tickets are all about the $$$, I think this is it...
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:23 PM   #11
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:23 PM   #12
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I'm originally from NY and this law was implemented awhile ago...initially people were pretty mad, and I was too...but once you realize how much focus you loose once you have to talk on the cell phone, the hands-free set is a lot safer.

but, they should just do away with cell phones while driving, because it's not just the talking that's distracting, it's picking up your phone, dialing #'s and texting that is the MOST distracting...I was on the parkway the other weekend and this girl in a freakin Jeep goes and cuts off 4 lanes of traffic and I look over and she's texting!
You lose focus whether you use a hands-free device or not. Study after study says it is the conversation that's a distraction, not the holding of the phone. This and every law that allows hands-free devices is just another reason to grab money out of your pocket if you are using a phone that an officer can see. I agree and I think this law is sad. If I am texting a message or dialing a number, it isn't illegal, yet I am taking my eyes off the road to do something that takes my attention away while driving. There are other things people should be cited for: applying makeup while driving, reading while driving, eating/drinking while driving, etc. Tons of distractions that deserve tickets. This law doesn't go far enough.
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:26 PM   #13
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Source Please?
Check out the Philadelphia Inquirer.
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:30 PM   #14
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I think instead of the $1.50 per tire cigarettes should get the tax for street cleaning. I mainly see cig buts on the side of the road, not car tires.
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:41 PM   #15
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I think if you taxed cigarettes more in new jersey there would be a war. I dont smoke, but people i know would flip out, its already approaching 6 bucks a pack, or more (dont keep up with it that much)
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Old 07-01-2004, 05:00 PM   #16
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http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/gover...cle.pl?id=2012

found it myself...signed in yesterday...no wonder people were complaining about the price of Cigs today...lol
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Old 07-01-2004, 05:17 PM   #17
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Damn, they are really hitting smokers hard.. i've already resorted to other sources, i get mine for $25 a carton.
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Old 07-01-2004, 05:54 PM   #18
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ahh yes but they CHOOSE to smoke. and most smokers i know say they can quit anytime.

the tax shouldnt matter if you buy tires from tire rack right?

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Old 07-01-2004, 10:34 PM   #19
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The cell phone one makes sense, so is the registration, but the tire tax is just BS. I guess the most stupid people can become a lawmaker......
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Old 07-01-2004, 11:43 PM   #20
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I like and dislike the new hands free set law. First its so easy to drive while its on and talk BUT it is SOO annoying to get the thing on fumble with the cord and you still have to pick up the phone to answer it or dial!!??
One word for you "Bluetooth"
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Old 07-02-2004, 08:36 AM   #21
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One word for you "Bluetooth"
The technology invented during the onset of the technological boom of the late 90's destined to revolutionize the way we live or lives, with Bluetooth receivers built into everything from refrigerators to shoe buffers, and all of them creating piconets with one another. Giving us the ability to control EVERYTHING in our lives thanks to this amazing Bluetooth technology which will seamlessly and powefully integrate with everything, thus eliminating any need for wires and cords ever again...

And then somebody realized this was retarded.

So now Bluetooth will be relegated, PERHAPS, to an occasional niche market, like cell phones and cars for handsfree, or the ability to connect your printer to your desktop wirelessly, but the fact remains the same: Bluetooth is a technology that many big name companies invested time, money, and effort about 5 years ago, and STILL isn't finalized, STILL doesn't work as well as they claim, and STILL hasn't reached a critical mass. I like cool technology just as much as anybody else, and on paper, Bluetooth looks amazing, but the reality is that nobody is embracing it because it attempts to answer questions nobody is asking.

</OT soap box>

PS. this was in NO way directed at wewu or anybody else on this thread - this is just an observation in general!

I did a final paper for my undergrad that focused a bit on Bluetooth and its shortcomings so I do NOT consider myself an expert, but I DO like to spout off my useless drivel on the subject
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