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Old 07-01-2004, 01:36 PM   #1
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I just got some new shoes for the 2.5RS; Toyo Proxies 4 225/45/17 (on new rota torques 17x7.5in). My question is did i get suckerd into paying ~$50 more for them to go and cut up new tires. they call it siping. The les shwab guy said it had NO negative affects on the tire performnce (dry or wet). He even said the tire would run colder thus saving tire wear. If this is so great why dont they come siped from the factory? I have learned when it comes to cars EVERYTHING is trade off.

I searched sipe and siping and got very few results. am i spelling it wrong or not using the right word?

I took some pics, i guess i will have to bite the bullet and figure out how to host the pics.

btw the tires are too good for the sock suspension. i feel like i can't come near the limits of the proxies. RSB comming soon.
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Old 07-01-2004, 01:43 PM   #2
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ive heard so many good things about the proxes 4... makes me want to get a set!

siping is more useful when you are often in the snow. since its an all season tire and not a dedicated snow tire, the siping would help the tire become more like a snow tire, while still maintaining the all season wet/dry characteristics. the only thing i can see thats negative is that now there are 'more' tread blocks and it would be a bit more squirmy in the dry (?) i could be totally wrong though, just conjecture.
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Old 07-01-2004, 02:13 PM   #3
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you got suckered .... it's a ploy to gain profit and does not improve tire performance or longevity ... the only factual data came from testing on luggage handling at O'hare airport and the vehicles used had solid rubber slick tires and they only had a moderate gain in ability
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they feel squirmy when pushing them, now i wish i didn't do it.
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you are feeling additional tread block flex which is a side effect of the slicing ... errr siping of the tread
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Old 07-01-2004, 06:43 PM   #6
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well i called les shwab and told them that i felt like i was miss lead, they said for $40(labor) they would give me new tires. that is good deal but i think i will pass. they were so sure that i didn't hurt dry performance, and we might go skiing with these tires so i guess is ok.

luke thanks for telling me some info on this subject, i felt much more knowlegble talking them.
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