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Old 06-23-2007, 06:17 PM   #1
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Default Header Stud Broke, I hate myself.

They were brown and corroded....and what do I do? "I can get em out, noooooo problem"

TINK

I did pb them, I even went out and pre bought new hardware.

Has anybody had any luck with the vice grip deal or should I go directly to a place with proper tools and pay out the ass because Im an overzealous, impatient ass who "just had to go out and tinker alittle."

I hate myself and my wife hates me too.

Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestion/miracle cure.

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Old 06-23-2007, 06:23 PM   #2
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Is this the stud in the head or the bolt/ nut at the rear?
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Old 06-23-2007, 06:25 PM   #3
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head, of course...
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Old 06-23-2007, 06:38 PM   #4
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Yeah sorry about that, i screwed up the title, it is one of the three studs.

Crappy day.

Thanks,
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Old 06-23-2007, 07:56 PM   #5
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you can buy left hand drill bits, drill bits that bore holes by going counter-clockwise, sometimes it will loosen or reverse broken bolts or studs. if not, then drill and tap a new hole to the next sized up drill bit. IIRC the exhaust studs are 10 or 12mm in diameter, you could just drill it out at 1/2'' and call it good.


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Old 06-23-2007, 08:35 PM   #6
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thanks josh, i just wanted to know if anyone has been successful with vice grips and heat/lube
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:20 PM   #7
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i broke 2 on my ej22 when i did the rebuild...i just ended up paying the machine shop to fix it... it was like 30 bucks or something...

throwing money at a problem always solves it...

other choice would be to helicoil it... which require drilling it out anyways...
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:42 AM   #8
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they are just studs, should come out.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:07 PM   #9
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why oh why couldnt Subaru invest a couple dollars in some anti seize...this is crap.

First stud came out with some force, second broke...now im afraid to even go near the other four. i dont want to take the car to the shop but im afraid im gonna have too.

i have been soaking them with pb blaster all day and they still wont budge. i can still drive it with one broken stud but if i break the other four im done for.

has anybody else had this much trouble?

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Old 06-25-2007, 09:15 AM   #10
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I had one tear up some threads on the way out.. just ran a tap into it to clean up the threads and put a new stud in. It freaked me out for a little while, but I kept reminding myself.., "You can't say you know how to work on cars, until you've broken one of everything on a car." I'm about 20% of the way to knowing how to work on cars.


Were you just trying to get the nuts off or were you trying to remove the studs?

The studs don't have antiseize into the block because you want them to seize to a certain extent... otherwise you'd never get the nuts to break loose. I believe they're originally assembled with some locktite. The nuts are supposed to be copper so that they don't bond to the steel studs.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:08 AM   #11
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There's a bunch of tricks, like the PB Blaster, taps, etc., but if you want to do the low-impact, low damage way, try this:
IF you have some threads on the studs that you can get two nuts on. Not sure what you've got to work with.

Keep hitting it w/ PB blaster like you're doing.
Screw two nuts on the threads, and tighten them into each other (use two wrenches to screw them into each other). They should lock together, so you can use it like a bolt head.

HEAT IT with a torch: propane, etc. (this will probably work the best for you)
Use a socket wrench on the two nuts while it's pretty hot.
Loosen a click or two w/ the socket wrench.
Tighten a click.
Loosen a click or two w/ the socket wrench.
More PB Blaster.

Repeat.

If that doesn't work, or if you can't get the nuts on it, just take it into a good mechanic shop. They know how to remove bolts, and have lots of experience doing so. It's probably an easier job for them than you think.
Spend the couple bucks, and have them remove this one, and the remaining bolts while they're at it, if you want.
Do NOT get into the left-handed bits/taps/etc unless you really know what you're doing. You can really, really get into trouble there, and you will need to take it into a machine shop/spend some $$ on it then.

I recently ran into the same problem w/ a radiator housing stud on a 25-year old tractor. Same thing: SNAP. A tractor repair shop had it out in 10 mins. Very cheap. Some one who was trying to 'help' me had put vice grips on the threads on the stud, and stripped them all off, so I couldn't try the two-nut trick.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:18 AM   #12
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The best trick I have seen is welding a nut onto the end of the stud and turning it out. Obviously you need a welder to do this but it works extremely well.
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Old 06-25-2007, 10:39 AM   #13
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Did you take a wire brush to the threads before you started? You need to get the flakey stuff off there...

You can also try using a flathead screwdriver, place it on the side of the nut and tap it with a hammer, to try and break up the rust, hopefully in the threads.

Heating as mentioned, but cooling it with the PB, it may help to work the PB down into the threads better... just make sure you don't burn your car down...

tap on the end of the stud with a hammer, you might get the stud out before the nut comes off.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:43 PM   #14
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welt, sucked it up and took it to a shop....i f'd it up bad enough, all i need to do is f it up more.

thank you so much for all of your help and ideas guys, i would have attempted them but i was too nervous...best let the professionals do it.

Why is it that any simple project, meant to pass the time, always ends up costing way too much time and way to much money?

thanks again!

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:35 PM   #15
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its called the north east and a ton of damn road salt!!
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:53 PM   #16
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yup...you would think that Suburu, who specifically markets its product to northern tier regions, would invest in a little anti seize or maybe even a little bit better grade hardware. oh well, what can you do. Like Frank says..."thats life."

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