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Old 11-19-2000, 11:44 AM   #1
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Talking JC Sports intake vs. Larry's intake - my numbers

The numbers tell the story.

Car:
MY00 2.5RS

Engine Mods:
- JC Sports exhaust, 4 inch tip, non resinated, 2.5" mid pipe
- 10w-30 Mobil 1 synthetic oil
- K&N panel drop in filter with Larry's intake, Aerospeed high-flow cone filter on JC Sports

Environment:
Temp - 18deg F (brrrr)
Alt - 4800 ft.

Run:
Launched off the line and traveled 0.08 miles and recorded what speed I achieved at the end the of 0.08m stretch. Used marks on the road (numbers may be somewhat rough). Don't ask why I did this. Just pulled it out of my A**.

JC Sports: 50 mph
Larry's intake: 52 mph

Not only the performance increase, but I also really like the new sound!

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Old 11-19-2000, 08:11 PM   #2
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Although I didn't do the timing, I compared a Weapon R with Larry's Intake. Larry's seemed to pull better below 4000 rpm and I liked the sound a lot better.
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Old 11-19-2000, 09:05 PM   #3
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Yeah, the Weapon R intake is pretty much the same as the JC Sports intake.

Another thing I really like about Larry's intake is that it is stable! The JC Sports intake kind of wobbled around and had play in the placement of it. Larry's is rock solid. This is because Larry gives ya a rubber coupler to go in the right fender and fit on the aluminum tube. Very good idea!

I'm so happy with Larry's intake that I already posted a for sale on my JC Sports intake in the Private Classifieds. Looks like I might be able to sell and / or trade it!

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Old 11-20-2000, 06:19 AM   #4
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How does the sound the Larry intake compare to a stock intake with the resonator removed?
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Old 11-20-2000, 08:27 AM   #5
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I really don't know. Larry's Intake seems to give the car a nice responsive snarl. It would be interesting to have some dyno info or data on Larry's intake from fans who live closer to sea level. I think his Intake is so good that Cobb Tuning's new Intakes are going to be conceptually similar with possibly a custom air box configuration.

Tom and I are probably deciples because we tried something else first and know/feel the differences.
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Old 11-20-2000, 10:32 AM   #6
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Well, I think the down low advantage comes from the fact Larry's intake uses the sock airbox, which serves as a plenum that the engine can draw from at low revs, making it more responsive than an intake that removes the airbox. ISR sells an intake that looks like a JC or such cut to mate tot he airbox with a K&N on the end. It's also very responsive (I had one on my car for a few months; took it off when I went in for some service and decided to keep it off for winter), but it's more expensive than Larry's.
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Old 11-20-2000, 11:01 AM   #7
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I also think getting air from the fenderwell kind of sets Larry's apart as well as preserving the stock box. I spoke with Trey sometime back about when their intake would be ready. He indicated that removal of the airbox was a major issue and that they were considering a custom airbox design. Am anxious to see what they come up with as they seem to be out in front on everything.
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Old 11-20-2000, 11:20 AM   #8
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Has anyone heard as to when Trey Cobb's intake is supposed to be released?
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Old 11-20-2000, 11:48 AM   #9
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There was a recent post on it from Trey That said there'd be two versions -- street & racing --and they'd be out momentarily and are on their "Cobb Tuned Impreza 01's" I think. This suggests that Larry's Intake may be the ultimate compromise as both versions extract air through the fenderwell. Two versions suggests that high end performance can possibly be better with a Weapon R or JC like unit. Larry seems to think there will be variable intake diameters to possibly create the box affect. Pricing for one is $130-140 and the other around $250. Gives some indication of two different approaches!

I think Larry's the pioneer here. Too bad he slipped into turbodom . Larry is the creator of the best price-point-hp mod for the RS.

Larry for President or elevation in this club.

We should all be grateful there's a Home Depot in Colorado Springs. As you recall, Larry's protoype was PVC, from Home Depot I presume, and that trick boot (at the fender) on the latest version is an off-the-shelf item in the the plumbing department that Larry so kindly referred me to. Larry's a frugile innovator!

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Old 11-20-2000, 04:09 PM   #10
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I'm guessing that Larry is somewhat of an icon in CO too?
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Old 11-20-2000, 07:21 PM   #11
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Old 11-20-2000, 07:33 PM   #12
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Old 11-20-2000, 10:50 PM   #13
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Old 11-20-2000, 11:05 PM   #14
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Larry has done an awsome job! Even if you haven't bought his intake, you have still learned alot from his design. He has contributed alot to this club, and deserves every bit of praise he gets.
So larry, when is the Larry's customs turbo going to hit the market?

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Old 11-21-2000, 12:01 AM   #15
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RidinLow,

Larry's intake sounds a lot better than stock intake with out silencer, I believe.

Larry's is a much deeper and louder sound.

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Old 11-21-2000, 12:17 AM   #16
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Man, enough with the gushing... you'll make Larry's already over-inflated head too large for this planet... who know what catastrophies will occur when his head starts having it's own gravitational pull...

If he was such a saviour, he would have been giving his intakes away... hehehe...

(Just kidding of course, Larry's a local, I have the right to jab him... )
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Old 11-21-2000, 12:29 AM   #17
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I believe Larry deserves every bit of praise he gets. And awards for that matter. I heard he got 2nd in the SCCA awards in CO!

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Old 11-21-2000, 12:38 AM   #18
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Larry got 2nd in the rookie class. I got 5th in GS running street tires all year... and it should have been 4th of some rookie hadn't decided to move out of rookie at the very end...

JJ, Strepto, Will all the Subaru guys that post here and run autocrosses got trophies.

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Maybe I should jump on the Vortech bandwagon afterall...

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Old 11-21-2000, 07:52 PM   #20
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Reminds me of a writer/storyteller from NH named Fran Tollman.

One of his stories in particular (paraphrased):

Abijah went ta' church every Sunday and sat in the front pew. When anyone came in late, Abijah would turn around and stare at them long and hard.

One Sunday after the pastor had delivered a very inspiring sermon, Abijah headed quickly and directly to the town pond behind the church. He walked right into the water up to his neck. When several parishioners waded in and hauled him to safety, he said "I took three steps before I went down."

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In the spirit of the season, let us give thanks for Larry's enthusiasm and innovation.

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