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Old 10-28-2000, 06:20 PM   #1
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Post Amr racings new subie twin turbo kit!

Holy Mother of God! Has anyone checked it out yet? It seems like it would be a kick ass kit to buy but there is no track record yet....that kinds scares me. At a price of 7,200 Bucks, it had better be awesome. I suggest you check it out for yourself!
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Old 10-28-2000, 06:22 PM   #2
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Check it out at www.carmodifications.com
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Old 10-28-2000, 06:45 PM   #3
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I know they were trying to have a car ready for the SEMA show. Andrew Nam was half of Minnam racing, we all know what that kit could do just ask adam99rs. The reliability of the aerodyne turbo is a question. Most of the people I talked to who had failures overboosted the turbos, Aerodyne does not reccomend boost levels above 10psi. This is why AMR has a fixed wastegate setting on the kits I believe.

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Old 10-28-2000, 06:50 PM   #4
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Introductory price is $6,600. Someone should get it while it is at that price. I would love to hear what someone thinks of it once they have it installed.

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Old 10-28-2000, 07:41 PM   #5
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Damn it! Maybe I'm not getting a WRX after all. Lol. Expensive but I've been thinking about a twin turbo setup for a while. Damn... Has anyone talked to these guys yet? If one opts for the front mount intercooler how big is that? Also, they're talking about their "Exclusive PRE-TUNED “AMR LINK” Fuel / Ignition timing Management computer" What exactly is that? I haven't seen anything about that before. Anyways, so what does everyone think about this system? Does anyone see any shortcomings yet?

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Old 10-28-2000, 09:14 PM   #6
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Brian- Those systems were developed by them for that specfic turbo set up. Meaning, that all you do is 1)Install your turbo, 2)Install your Systems and your good to go. Meaning, install everything as is and your car should be fine and have 350HP at the wheels. Doesn't that seem to good to be true??? They say that the average Joe Bloe can install it all in under 12 hours too. Thats simply amazing. I think they are on sale until the 15th of Dec for 6600. SOMEONE PLEASE BUY IT AND POST A REPORT!!!!!!
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Old 10-28-2000, 11:21 PM   #7
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Well, if everyone on this board donated 5 dollars to me i could put it on my car and let you know how i like it
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Old 10-29-2000, 12:33 AM   #8
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This does sound like a sweet kit.. and I was always leaning towards the supercharger/twin turbo setup, as opposed to a single large turbo, because of the low end power. If this does make it into production, and gets decent reviews... Hopefully in about 2 years I'll be able to afford it. Man, that would be sweet... And btw, I'm willing to donate $5 to have someone be the guinea pig. Seriously.. think about what we would be gaining - the fact that we would have someone with an awesome turbo setup, unbiased reviews of the kit as soon as it's available... Even if we scraped up only about $3000, I'm sure we could get someone to pay the rest and volunteer themselves to do it.
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Old 10-29-2000, 01:24 AM   #9
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Hi guys..

I believe they are using the Link ECU.. if they are.. they might have problems..

The link does not suppost sequential turbos... people who have tried.. have failed.. it is a nightmare getting the turbos to run sequentially.. there is always a slight dip in the change over....

Maybe in parallel.. now thats another story..

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Old 10-29-2000, 04:49 AM   #10
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The kit was first designed to be a big single turbo unit, but the turbo AMR was going to use will not be available till march. Aerodyne changed manafacturers for this turbo just after AMR had finished their kit, so this is why AMR decided to go with a twin setup useing two smaller turbos.

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Old 10-29-2000, 06:19 AM   #11
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Ok,
I have been looking at this kit for about 3 months now after seeing it in mid summer on the AMR site. I have spoken with Andrew Nam sevrl times sence the first part of Sep. when I decided to buy the kit(after talking with andrew). I have a Deposite on the kit and should be the first in line to receve one when thay are ready. As for the set up yes it is a Link ECU the turbs are not sequential there is one turbo on each side of the engine the set up is like the Legacy B-4 Risk full boost should come on @ 2300 rpm or so it is set up to run 10 psi. as for hp and 1/4 mile times I know what it is expected to do by Andrew Nam but I will not post thoughs #'s till the kit is on my car and I have been to a track and I have it in Black and white.
As for relibilty I have been asking around and doing serches on the aerodyn turbo and what I have found is there was a relibilty issue with the aerodyne but there was a redesign and the new design has been doing quite well the problems of the old turbo have not been poping up with the "new style" aerodyne turbos.
The problem came from the peaple turing up the turbos and running more boost than rated for, or from a leak in the intake pluming, or a vac line casing the turbo to over rev and fail. The new redesign of the exghst side of the turbo has (from what I can find) solved this problem. You should still not run more boost than what the turbo is rated for to aviod problems. When I have the kit in hand I will post letting you guys know then I will post when I have the kit on the car (I am putting it on my self) and yes putting the kit on in about 12 hrs (more like 8 or 10 hrs) should be no problem. Talking with Andrew it is a very straight forward design and will not be hard to install. (that is part of the requrment to be CARB certfd)So as soon as I have it I'll let you guys know
Ps sorry for the spelling
PSS....oh yeah I have been told by Andrew I should have the kit in hand befour X-Mass.....I am not holding him to this as I know things can pop up (right now he is wating for redesign flanges to come in then it will be ready to bolt to his car for testing)I'll keep you guys posted

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Old 10-29-2000, 10:46 AM   #12
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Liquid - that's awesome, I hope the kit works out OK for you.. Keep everyone posted, I'm sure we will get a decent turnout on this kit once it becomes available.
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Old 10-29-2000, 04:34 PM   #13
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Liquid,

Nice to see you posting on the boards about your kit. You know we have some unfinished business to attend to. Muhahaha! Give me a call when the kit is finished. I'd like to go to the track with you. By the time you have your kit, I should be ready for round 2.
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Old 10-30-2000, 01:01 AM   #14
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I wonder how good is a pre-tuned ECU, like the one offered by AMR for their turbo kits. According to AMR, it's the new improved version of the Link engine management system. Even though it is pre-tuned, I think one can still fine tune it later, I am not sure about this. Can somebody confirm ?

I am sure the Vishnu gang will have many bad things to say about pre-tuned ECUs, but I have yet to see a Vishnu customer running the Vishnu kit without any problems. It must be just a learning curve that they are going through. Afterall, a fully programable ECU is only as good as the tuner that tunes it.
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Old 10-30-2000, 01:12 AM   #15
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It's seems like AMR is running into a lot of hurdles. Maybe we will get some feedback after SEMA. They were supposed to have either the single or twin set up ready by then. The main thing that I would like to see is the CARB certification. I sure hope they can pull it off. No one has been able to do it yet.

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Old 10-30-2000, 01:38 AM   #16
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Just a quick note:

Boostup, Yes the link ecu will be tuneable.

JahWind, Yes there has been some "hurdles" but not at the fault of AMR (Andrew) the first time with the single turbo kits aerodyne could not deliver the larger turbo due to problems with there manufc. of the compreser wheel.
As for the twin turbo kit the hold up is with the new flanges for the turbo's as the twin turbo kit was at first not even going to be devoluped till the single turbo kit was done and selling. So the flanges he desinged were for the singel larger turbo and would not mach up for the 2 smaller turbo's. Andrew is wating for the redesinged flanges to be made and come back to him so he can bolt up the turbo's and start testing.
Sorry if I seam like I am stealing the spotlight on this it is just I have done alot of research on this system and have asked Andrew alot of questins about the kit. But for the kind of money this is costing me who would not do reseach and ask alot of questins LOL
Ps once agen sorry for the spelling 26 y/o and don't spell any better than my 10 y/o niece. *shurg*
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Old 10-30-2000, 04:40 AM   #17
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Hey Kevin,

Were you able to talk to Andrew about getting the I/C to upgrade your turbo to a stage 2. I know you said you were talking to him about it.
Oh and don't worry when the kit is in the car you will see me out there at the track (we can take a ride up to Atco) and down on front st. (we can suprise a few of the big boys).
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Old 10-30-2000, 08:07 AM   #18
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Liqued- Thats awesome man. As soon as you get it hooked up, let us know. I have roughly 6000 bucks towards my turbo so I'm waiting for your review before I buy the Minnam Stage 2 With Tec 2. If you get any 1/4 Mile times, post those too!!!! THANX dude, you may have saved my life! ELLIOTT***
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Old 10-30-2000, 08:31 AM   #19
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Elliott,

Hey as soon as I have some new info I will post to let all you guys know. Belive me I can't wait till I get it. The thing I like is there will be no turbo lag and I will not need to do any tuning. (this way I wont blow up my car)

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Old 10-30-2000, 09:40 AM   #20
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Thats my reason for my interest, No worrying about my engine blowing up. I am real interested so I can't wait!
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Old 10-30-2000, 11:23 AM   #21
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What do you guys mean that you won't have to do any tuning? If you want to optimise the performance of your car, you will still need to tune it with the link ECU. You could say the same thing about Shiv's TEC-II kit. It comes with a map that will work well for every car, but if you want to optimise it, you will have to do some tuning.
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Old 10-30-2000, 11:51 AM   #22
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Wreckleford,

You are right you can optimise the maps of the link. But "out of the box" it is tuned to run well with 10 psi of boost and has the fule maps and igntion maps preset for the kit @ 10 psi, it is not a base line map, The map's are tuned for the kit.
Is it a more conservitve map than you will have once you tune shiv's teck 2 for your car...yes. (But Link is pre tuned and that is what I want)
The teck 2's map "out of the box" is a base line map which is to get the car running till it can be tuned with your lap top or pc.I don't think you can drive the car on the base line map that come with the Teck 2 (I could be wrong it would not be the first time)
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Old 10-30-2000, 11:58 AM   #23
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This kit looks really nice. I'm very interested in it as it would be a perfect low-lag kit for anyone that Auto-Xs. I can't wait! (*^_^*)

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Old 10-30-2000, 02:00 PM   #24
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Marquis,

Each link ecu would be tuned for the year car it is going on. Let me try and be more specific the Link is not a stand alone ecu it will parallel the stock ecu and maps fule acrdng to rpm and boost level and also has a map to retard ignt tough the stock ecu
In my post I said I know it would be a more conservative than the teck 2 and no I am not trying to start a war on Link ves Teck 2 I think the teck 2 is a great sys I just do not want to get into the tuning it would req.
I also said the Link can be fine tuned for more HP I just would not want to get into that as I know nothing about tuning and would not want to blow up my car. Conservative is fine with me as long as my car dose not blow up LOL
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Just to clarify, the Link does not parallel the stock ECU. Doing so would be a patent violation

It replaces it all together. Remove the stock board, install the Link board.

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