Motor finally arrived!! woohooo

adam99rs · 10-25-2000, 05:18 PM

Well, got the call today that my motor finally arrived, and the swap is now offically underway. My old motor was already out of the car, so I am hopeful that within a couple wek,s i will finally have my beloved RS back! Its a legit Sti (red intake, VF23 turbo), but we are checking into whether its a V4 or V5...i guess counting the number of holes for the tranny to bolt to is a good way....will have to do that.

Alex - what headers did you go with and why, over say, another brand, or just stock Sti ones? I have nver seen the stock headers yet, so I have no idea how they compare to the aftermarket ones. Does it even ay with a VF23?

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Tim Prudence · 10-25-2000, 05:28 PM

Alex is using Cusco headers.

doripreza · 10-25-2000, 05:31 PM

i'm guessing by your post that you didn't get headers with your engine...
don't worry your not missing out on too much..

i think alex has cusco headers..???

either way if it were up to me i'd get cusco headers.. those are very nice.. but so are the syms along with many other companies.. cusco is probably the easiest to obtain..
1200 i think . is the retail..

ohh how much did you pay for your engine???
maybe you could post your block code(the one under the alternator) and someone could determine the year for you. or if its from an type RA or whatever...

please take plenty of pics.. specifically of the pressure tubing and BOV air ducting..
thats one parts i rarly see pics of.

adam99rs · 10-25-2000, 05:40 PM

Will do my best on the pix....sine Rallispec is doing the install, but I live on LI, I probably won't stop down till I pick it up. But then again, i am going down to MD this weekend for the club H20 VW/Audi show, so maybe I'll try and swing by to take some pix. will also try and check out the block code too. what makes the RA motors different? I always thought that the STi's were the same, except for whatever individual pieces the buyer chose (pistons, cams and valves, which I understand there were "options" on the V5 and up, not sure about the V4 though).

I did get OEM factory headers with the motor, so aftermarkets aren't needed to be up and running, bu certainly easier to do now, befoire everything goes back in.

Still need to locate a used STi guage cluster though (speedo, tach). while i can use my stock one, this motor redlines at 8k, and the stock Rs only goes to 8k...10k would be nice to have. so far though, I have only found them new, and cost as around $600. used should be half the cost.

[This message has been edited by adam99rs (edited October 25, 2000).]

nathan power · 10-25-2000, 05:45 PM

I saw your motor. its sweet. Good luck with it. I just bought a turbo and having them insall it. There great guys. Nate.

22 Lou · 10-25-2000, 10:19 PM

hey wassup addam?
This is Lou...i'm the other guy who's got an sti engine there(at rallispec). what a coinkidink...both from LI. i guess the LIE aint gonna know what hit it...(the long island expressway..for those out of the area). i actually saw your car there last time i went...very sweet...nice wheels, the prodrive calipers look nice through them. maybe i'll see you down there one of these days...congrats on the engine!
-Lou

LostBoyScout · 10-25-2000, 10:25 PM

*sniff* i want one
around how much including freight, if you guys don't mind my asking?

Keith · 10-25-2000, 10:42 PM

Hey Adam, do you have to register your car differently now?? CAn you drive it like a normal car?? just want to know

Lou!! I didnt know u were getting transplant. you going to auto-x when u get ur new engine??I would love to see it run

keith

22 Lou · 10-25-2000, 11:25 PM

LBS:
me and addam's pricing are diiferent...i think adam's just getting an engine as he's already done other prerequisite mods. I on the other hand am going a quantum leap foward from my bone stock(engine & drivetrain wise) 2.2 liter 5 door impreza(~140 hp) to a fire breathing 280 hp monster! so my price is for all the other things i'm gonna need as well...the parts:
1] sti ver v engine, 2]ihi turbo(it looks tiny compared to the other kits' turbos), 3]intercooler, 4]transmission 5]mid LSD (which i believe is the adjustable kind) & rear diff, 6]gear ratios, 7] computer(along with the biatch of the install wiring harness) and a few other things here and there(semi dmged exaust, one rotor, various axles). all parts come from the same 99 sti which i believe came with very low (3000 Kilometers i think/hope) use. all for the kick you in the gut price of ....drumroll............9500 duckets...
the subsequent install will cost alittle(again i hope) more.
i have had to servre alot dinners to get that money(i'm a waiter) but i believe it'll be worth it.
keith :
hopefully it'll be done by the next auto-x..
if so we'll go for a spin...

later...
-Lou

Imprezer · 10-26-2000, 01:59 AM

Hey Adam,

Yes, the guys are right, I have a CUSCO manifold, CUSCO 3.5" catless DP and CUSCO 3.5" cat-back. As you can tell, I am obsessed with CUSCO. I went with CUSCO becuase they are very famous in Japan. They make top $ stuff and I love it. If you want, I can get you anything CUSCO you want. E-mail me if you are interested and I will send you some pics, quotes, ect.

On the other hand, you can just call up Scott @ SPO and buy SYMS header, DP, catback. SYMS stuff is also very high quality and is my next choice after CUSCO.

Keep us updated on your project.

You can see a whole bunch of my project pics at:

http://www.bozzperformance.com/images/imprezer

RidinLow · 10-26-2000, 05:53 AM

Hey Lou!!! Haven't seen you around on the board in ages!

Tell us when you get your engine transplant & I'll drive down to the city to check it out!!!

~Garrick

Rich L · 10-26-2000, 06:33 AM

Hey Adam,

Dude, come down to Atco Raceway so I can see you destroy all the domestics and imports in the area.

As a personal thank-you, I will buy you a nice cold beer for every race you win! AND if you get to drunk, dont worry buddy, give me your keys and I'll drive you home!

adam99rs · 10-26-2000, 08:29 AM

Thanks for the info alex......3.5"....it doesn't hang too low (man that sounds really bad!)?

The setup I got for my car is a bit different from Lou's. Like I said, tis either a V4 or V5 (I will have the guys look today and get the stamp on the block), with Sti intercooler, IHI VF23 turbo, stock STi headers. MRT did the rebuid on it; the motor belonged to a friend of brett's who also rallied, and had a car built to group N specs (which i don't think allow for too much). anyway, not sure of it has a different set of cams, etc. I already had the RA tranny in my car, so I am keeping that. If and when the rear diff blows, i will switch to the Quaife. I am not sure what teh RA comes with in terms of front and center diffs......car didn't feel different from my stock Rs tranny, except the shifting as much crsiper, and the the gears are spaced differently (thought eh overall ratio internally is still 4.11).

ColinL · 10-26-2000, 08:37 AM

It depends on what year of RA tranny that is. Look here and here to find out. Anything version 3 and higher came with a 4.444 final drive stock if I'm reading that right.

Turk · 10-26-2000, 09:01 AM

Imprezer - What type of coilovers are those, cusco? They look real nice!!!

Turk

EDIT: Nevermind just saw your post in the suspension section.

[This message has been edited by Turk (edited October 26, 2000).]

22 Lou · 10-26-2000, 11:24 AM

consider it done Garrick...
as soon as its done i'll drop you an email.then we'll have fun flogging 'er around....beating up on mustangs...with a full load of groceries no less!
-Lou

adam99rs · 10-26-2000, 01:09 PM

there are a bunch of #'s stamped all over the block....one of them is 966877....does this mean anything to anyone?

Matt Monson · 10-26-2000, 02:10 PM

adam99rs,
You asked what makes the RA different? Closed Deck, I'm not sure what else, but there are some differences between the intake between model years as well.
Anyone else know more differences? Or...what I really want is more complete tech. JoelGat posted EJ20 model runs the other day, but there are a bunch of us who are scrounging for more details

doripreza · 10-26-2000, 02:27 PM

the RA has a more aggressive cam grind and
its "supposed to" have forged pistons and rods.. that are stronger than normal sti..
then again there is always the WRX RA which isn't even an sti car, so who is to say...

Jay_UK · 10-26-2000, 02:56 PM

Confusing isnt it

J.

adam99rs · 10-26-2000, 03:37 PM

Quite!

All STi cars had the option of forged pieces.....from pistons to cranks, I believe, and varying valves as well. From what my sources tell me, these could be special ordered at the dealership by the buyer. I know mine has the forged pistons, not sure what else.

Shik · 10-26-2000, 03:46 PM

Glad to hear you got the goods, man. Let me know when you are going down to pick it up and I'll try my damndest to meet up with ya. Maybe I'll just bring the posters then. BTW, I GOT DIBS ON THE HEADERS when they go up for sale

Tim Prudence · 10-26-2000, 04:00 PM

Damn, Shik, I can't believe you beat me to that one... I must be getting slow...

No chance the turbo's going to be up for sale is there, Adam?

adam99rs · 10-26-2000, 04:10 PM

It will I'm sure at some point.....I have heard good tings about the VF23, so i am eager to try it.

BTW....just found out its a V4 motor. They have a V5 there too, but its slated for someone else's car (Lou's).

I'm emailing alex now about the headers.

Shik · 10-26-2000, 04:11 PM

I actually told AB I'd buy the headers back in June at the STPR Pro Rally, if and when they went up for sale

Unfortunately my bank account isn't letting me buy and turbos any time soon. I may check with Forced Performance that NateP recommended when it comes time to address it though.

10-25-2000, 05:18 PM	#1
adam99rs Scooby Specialist Member#: 20 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: New York	Motor finally arrived!! woohooo Well, got the call today that my motor finally arrived, and the swap is now offically underway. My old motor was already out of the car, so I am hopeful that within a couple wek,s i will finally have my beloved RS back! Its a legit Sti (red intake, VF23 turbo), but we are checking into whether its a V4 or V5...i guess counting the number of holes for the tranny to bolt to is a good way....will have to do that. Alex - what headers did you go with and why, over say, another brand, or just stock Sti ones? I have nver seen the stock headers yet, so I have no idea how they compare to the aftermarket ones. Does it even ay with a VF23? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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10-25-2000, 05:28 PM	#2
Tim Prudence Scooby Specialist Member#: 216 Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: san diego, ca USA	Alex is using Cusco headers.

10-25-2000, 05:31 PM	#3
doripreza Scooby Newbie Member#: 574 Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Altadena,CA,USA Vehicle: 99 Impreza RS Black	i'm guessing by your post that you didn't get headers with your engine... don't worry your not missing out on too much.. i think alex has cusco headers..??? either way if it were up to me i'd get cusco headers.. those are very nice.. but so are the syms along with many other companies.. cusco is probably the easiest to obtain.. 1200 i think . is the retail.. ohh how much did you pay for your engine??? maybe you could post your block code(the one under the alternator) and someone could determine the year for you. or if its from an type RA or whatever... please take plenty of pics.. specifically of the pressure tubing and BOV air ducting.. thats one parts i rarly see pics of.

10-25-2000, 05:40 PM	#4
adam99rs Scooby Specialist Member#: 20 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: New York	Will do my best on the pix....sine Rallispec is doing the install, but I live on LI, I probably won't stop down till I pick it up. But then again, i am going down to MD this weekend for the club H20 VW/Audi show, so maybe I'll try and swing by to take some pix. will also try and check out the block code too. what makes the RA motors different? I always thought that the STi's were the same, except for whatever individual pieces the buyer chose (pistons, cams and valves, which I understand there were "options" on the V5 and up, not sure about the V4 though). I did get OEM factory headers with the motor, so aftermarkets aren't needed to be up and running, bu certainly easier to do now, befoire everything goes back in. Still need to locate a used STi guage cluster though (speedo, tach). while i can use my stock one, this motor redlines at 8k, and the stock Rs only goes to 8k...10k would be nice to have. so far though, I have only found them new, and cost as around $600. used should be half the cost. [This message has been edited by adam99rs (edited October 25, 2000).]

10-25-2000, 05:45 PM	#5
nathan power Scooby Newbie Member#: 2208 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: trenton, nj, usa	I saw your motor. its sweet. Good luck with it. I just bought a turbo and having them insall it. There great guys. Nate.

10-25-2000, 10:19 PM	#6
22 Lou Scooby Newbie Member#: 830 Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: from Queens, NY to Maine! Vehicle: 1996 OBSTI hybrid inconspicuous....heehee	hey wassup addam? This is Lou...i'm the other guy who's got an sti engine there(at rallispec). what a coinkidink...both from LI. i guess the LIE aint gonna know what hit it...(the long island expressway..for those out of the area). i actually saw your car there last time i went...very sweet...nice wheels, the prodrive calipers look nice through them. maybe i'll see you down there one of these days...congrats on the engine! -Lou

10-25-2000, 10:25 PM	#7
LostBoyScout Scooby Newbie Member#: 2601 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Coquitlam, BC	sniff i want one around how much including freight, if you guys don't mind my asking?

10-25-2000, 10:42 PM	#8
Keith NASIOC Supporter Member#: 191 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Brooklyn Vehicle: 2012 J train Brown	Hey Adam, do you have to register your car differently now?? CAn you drive it like a normal car?? just want to know Lou!! I didnt know u were getting transplant. you going to auto-x when u get ur new engine??I would love to see it run keith

10-25-2000, 11:25 PM	#9
22 Lou Scooby Newbie Member#: 830 Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: from Queens, NY to Maine! Vehicle: 1996 OBSTI hybrid inconspicuous....heehee	LBS: me and addam's pricing are diiferent...i think adam's just getting an engine as he's already done other prerequisite mods. I on the other hand am going a quantum leap foward from my bone stock(engine & drivetrain wise) 2.2 liter 5 door impreza(~140 hp) to a fire breathing 280 hp monster! so my price is for all the other things i'm gonna need as well...the parts: 1] sti ver v engine, 2]ihi turbo(it looks tiny compared to the other kits' turbos), 3]intercooler, 4]transmission 5]mid LSD (which i believe is the adjustable kind) & rear diff, 6]gear ratios, 7] computer(along with the biatch of the install wiring harness) and a few other things here and there(semi dmged exaust, one rotor, various axles). all parts come from the same 99 sti which i believe came with very low (3000 Kilometers i think/hope) use. all for the kick you in the gut price of ....drumroll............9500 duckets... the subsequent install will cost alittle(again i hope) more. i have had to servre alot dinners to get that money(i'm a waiter) but i believe it'll be worth it. keith : hopefully it'll be done by the next auto-x.. if so we'll go for a spin... later... -Lou

10-26-2000, 01:59 AM	#10
Imprezer Dynamic Uno Member#: 1 Join Date: Jun 1999 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Alameda, CA Vehicle: 2011 Impreza WRX STi Black	Hey Adam, Yes, the guys are right, I have a CUSCO manifold, CUSCO 3.5" catless DP and CUSCO 3.5" cat-back. As you can tell, I am obsessed with CUSCO. I went with CUSCO becuase they are very famous in Japan. They make top $ stuff and I love it. If you want, I can get you anything CUSCO you want. E-mail me if you are interested and I will send you some pics, quotes, ect. On the other hand, you can just call up Scott @ SPO and buy SYMS header, DP, catback. SYMS stuff is also very high quality and is my next choice after CUSCO. Keep us updated on your project. You can see a whole bunch of my project pics at: http://www.bozzperformance.com/images/imprezer

10-26-2000, 05:53 AM	#11
RidinLow Scooby Guru Member#: 329 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 1995 325i Arctic Gray	Hey Lou!!! Haven't seen you around on the board in ages! Tell us when you get your engine transplant & I'll drive down to the city to check it out!!! ~Garrick

10-26-2000, 06:33 AM	#12
Rich L Scooby Specialist Member#: 961 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: near Atco(NJ) 13.566@100.64- Vehicle: 1999 RS-Tw/ CobraMAF Custom Rallispec kit/IC#1	Hey Adam, Dude, come down to Atco Raceway so I can see you destroy all the domestics and imports in the area. As a personal thank-you, I will buy you a nice cold beer for every race you win! AND if you get to drunk, dont worry buddy, give me your keys and I'll drive you home!

10-26-2000, 08:29 AM	#13
adam99rs Scooby Specialist Member#: 20 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: New York	Thanks for the info alex......3.5"....it doesn't hang too low (man that sounds really bad!)? The setup I got for my car is a bit different from Lou's. Like I said, tis either a V4 or V5 (I will have the guys look today and get the stamp on the block), with Sti intercooler, IHI VF23 turbo, stock STi headers. MRT did the rebuid on it; the motor belonged to a friend of brett's who also rallied, and had a car built to group N specs (which i don't think allow for too much). anyway, not sure of it has a different set of cams, etc. I already had the RA tranny in my car, so I am keeping that. If and when the rear diff blows, i will switch to the Quaife. I am not sure what teh RA comes with in terms of front and center diffs......car didn't feel different from my stock Rs tranny, except the shifting as much crsiper, and the the gears are spaced differently (thought eh overall ratio internally is still 4.11).

10-26-2000, 08:37 AM	#14
ColinL Scooby Guru Member#: 114 Join Date: Jul 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Wichita, KS and Whoring, OT Vehicle: '03 Evo, Rice White '01 Erion CBR 929	It depends on what year of RA tranny that is. Look here and here to find out. Anything version 3 and higher came with a 4.444 final drive stock if I'm reading that right.

10-26-2000, 09:01 AM	#15
Turk Scooby Specialist Member#: 1888 Join Date: Jul 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Charlotte, NC	Imprezer - What type of coilovers are those, cusco? They look real nice!!! Turk EDIT: Nevermind just saw your post in the suspension section. [This message has been edited by Turk (edited October 26, 2000).]

10-26-2000, 11:24 AM	#16
22 Lou Scooby Newbie Member#: 830 Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: from Queens, NY to Maine! Vehicle: 1996 OBSTI hybrid inconspicuous....heehee	consider it done Garrick... as soon as its done i'll drop you an email.then we'll have fun flogging 'er around....beating up on mustangs...with a full load of groceries no less! -Lou

10-26-2000, 01:09 PM	#17
adam99rs Scooby Specialist Member#: 20 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: New York	there are a bunch of #'s stamped all over the block....one of them is 966877....does this mean anything to anyone?

10-26-2000, 02:10 PM	#18
Matt Monson Scooby Guru Member#: 832 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Teh Ghetto Garage, CO Vehicle: 99 2.5RS, '85 911 '73 914 and 2012 BRZ	adam99rs, You asked what makes the RA different? Closed Deck, I'm not sure what else, but there are some differences between the intake between model years as well. Anyone else know more differences? Or...what I really want is more complete tech. JoelGat posted EJ20 model runs the other day, but there are a bunch of us who are scrounging for more details

10-26-2000, 02:27 PM	#19
doripreza Scooby Newbie Member#: 574 Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Altadena,CA,USA Vehicle: 99 Impreza RS Black	the RA has a more aggressive cam grind and its "supposed to" have forged pistons and rods.. that are stronger than normal sti.. then again there is always the WRX RA which isn't even an sti car, so who is to say...

10-26-2000, 02:56 PM	#20
Jay_UK Scooby Specialist Member#: 296 Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Derby, Derbyshire, England	Confusing isnt it J.

10-26-2000, 03:37 PM	#21
adam99rs Scooby Specialist Member#: 20 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: New York	Quite! All STi cars had the option of forged pieces.....from pistons to cranks, I believe, and varying valves as well. From what my sources tell me, these could be special ordered at the dealership by the buyer. I know mine has the forged pistons, not sure what else.

10-26-2000, 03:46 PM	#22
Shik NASIOC Supporter Member#: 132 Join Date: Jul 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Central PA Vehicle: 1997 LGT Wagon 5spd '06 LGT 5spd Ltd Sdn	Glad to hear you got the goods, man. Let me know when you are going down to pick it up and I'll try my damndest to meet up with ya. Maybe I'll just bring the posters then. BTW, I GOT DIBS ON THE HEADERS when they go up for sale

10-26-2000, 04:00 PM	#23
Tim Prudence Scooby Specialist Member#: 216 Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: san diego, ca USA	Damn, Shik, I can't believe you beat me to that one... I must be getting slow... No chance the turbo's going to be up for sale is there, Adam?

10-26-2000, 04:10 PM	#24
adam99rs Scooby Specialist Member#: 20 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: New York	It will I'm sure at some point.....I have heard good tings about the VF23, so i am eager to try it. BTW....just found out its a V4 motor. They have a V5 there too, but its slated for someone else's car (Lou's). I'm emailing alex now about the headers.

10-26-2000, 04:11 PM	#25
Shik NASIOC Supporter Member#: 132 Join Date: Jul 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Central PA Vehicle: 1997 LGT Wagon 5spd '06 LGT 5spd Ltd Sdn	I actually told AB I'd buy the headers back in June at the STPR Pro Rally, if and when they went up for sale Unfortunately my bank account isn't letting me buy and turbos any time soon. I may check with Forced Performance that NateP recommended when it comes time to address it though.