Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Wednesday July 29, 2015
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
Click here to visit TireRack
Brakes & Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack

Losing traction? Need new tires?
Click here to visit the NASIOC Upgrade Garage...
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Brakes, Steering & Suspension

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-22-2004, 02:58 PM   #1
csacom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 27441
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Palmerton, PA
Vehicle:
2003 WRX
Sonic Yellow

Question springs to get rid of front gap and not ride rough?

Forgive me if this question has been asked a hundred times already.

I have a 2003 WRX Sedan. I am not happy with the extra gap above the front wheels. I am running 225/45-17 Pole Positions. I am looking for suggestions on springs that will get rid of most of the front gap without making the ride too hard. I ride a lot of rough roads and would rather not have them throw me and the car around. I would also rather not have to any other suspension modifications. I have looked at the SPT Performance springs, but I am not really about what else is available or better. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated!!
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
csacom is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 08-22-2004, 08:17 PM   #2
NWWagon
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 66769
Join Date: Jul 2004
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Kansas City
Vehicle:
05 Focus "ST"
'80 Honda CM400T

Default

With lowering the ride height you're alomst always going to have a higer spring rate so the car won't bottom out on bumps. But a vey good mild springs sets are made by Prodrive, Eibach, Perrin, and Espelir. Me personaly have the Espelir Active Super Down spring sets and can't complain about the ride quality at all. Infact it enjoy it more since I can take corners at speed that would make most others shutter in fear. Except other Subaru owners of course. But heres a few pics of the effect of that espelir set.

BEFORE




AFTER




NWWagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2004, 09:26 PM   #3
csacom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 27441
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Palmerton, PA
Vehicle:
2003 WRX
Sonic Yellow

Default

Looks good! I have not heard of Espelir. Did you have them professionally installed?
csacom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2004, 07:27 AM   #4
RADON
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 46325
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Arlington, VA
Vehicle:
2005 Legacy GT Sedan
Silver

Default

Prodrives here for comparison.



RADON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2004, 11:59 PM   #5
csacom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 27441
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Palmerton, PA
Vehicle:
2003 WRX
Sonic Yellow

Default

Looks good RADON, I like the rims. How does it ride?
csacom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2004, 07:00 AM   #6
RADON
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 46325
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Arlington, VA
Vehicle:
2005 Legacy GT Sedan
Silver

Default

They ride very well. Much more firm yet very comfortable for my daily driver. Much less brake dive and quicker recovery from cornering. I've been happy with my choice and am looking forward to getting some inserts in about a year along with some new top hats. The only negative is that I have to slow down more than I did with the stock springs for speed bumps.

Hope that helps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by csacom
Looks good RADON, I like the rims. How does it ride?
RADON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2004, 10:42 AM   #7
PARANOID56
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 22035
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:
2003 Brocoma DCab
71 FJ40, 13 DRZ400SM

Default

well, i can say dont get the Eibach ones, as mine have a larger front gap then the rear, its sort of crapy looing. the rears almost look like they are too low, and the front look too high.
Shane
PARANOID56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2004, 02:20 PM   #8
soso3
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 36794
Join Date: May 2003
Location: BYPKI
Vehicle:
89 T I T A N

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PARANOID56
well, i can say dont get the Eibach ones, as mine have a larger front gap then the rear, its sort of crapy looing. the rears almost look like they are too low, and the front look too high.
Shane

I have the Eibach pro kit and it lowers 1.3" front and 1.0" rear - which evens out the wheel gap from the factory springs.
soso3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2004, 03:22 PM   #9
AttaQ
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 20301
Join Date: Jun 2002
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Streamwood, IL
Vehicle:
2004 BMW M3
lightweight optioned

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by csacom
I would also rather not have to any other suspension modifications.
If all you want is springs, I would say the Prodrives are a pretty good option. If you can spend a few more $$$, some low mile JDM take-offs would be a better all around suspension choice. I have JDM STI Spec-C take offs on my car and it lowers nicely, firms the ride up, but doesn't punish you.
AttaQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 11:49 AM   #10
csacom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 27441
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Palmerton, PA
Vehicle:
2003 WRX
Sonic Yellow

Default

I assume that Subaru does not sell any type of JDM spring here in the US? Since you purchased used springs, should I also assume that no one sells these new? Or are they very expensive?




NEEDS SPRING HELP!

Last edited by csacom; 09-23-2004 at 06:03 PM.
csacom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2004, 02:13 PM   #11
NWWagon
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 66769
Join Date: Jul 2004
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Kansas City
Vehicle:
05 Focus "ST"
'80 Honda CM400T

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by csacom
Looks good! I have not heard of Espelir. Did you have them professionally installed?

Yeah Espelir just started showing up here in the US. They're a Japan tuner company that makes mostly suspension and exhaust. I got mine from World One. But no I did the install myself pretty simple suiff if you have all the right tools. Since I'm military we have access to a auto hobby shop that has all the tools you will need for just about anythign inlcuding lifts and such. But you can do this on jack stands with hand tools. But you you would have to get a spring compressor form a autoparts store which most have loaners that you can use for a day. I've never done a spring change before and it took me about 2 1/2 hours to do cause I got hung up on the rears a bit since you have to line up the top hats with the bottom of the strut. Fronts were super easy since the top hats rotate for steering. The main thing is to get teh car aligned after you lower it or you'll wear the tires funny and not get the full benifits of lowering. Hope everythign wroks out ok for you and good luck!!
NWWagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 01:35 AM   #12
bboy
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 56468
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Seattle, WA
Vehicle:
04 Improved STI
Dirty White

Default

I too vote Espelir. I got the ASD springs. They are very close to the STi Pinks with at little higher spring rate. The ride improved, springs seem to work better with the struts. Overall roll and handling is tighter. I really like'm and you can't beat the price from World One (especially compared to Pinks).

I'm told the Espelir GT springs are very nice too, but alot stiffer. For a daily driver they may not be your cup o tea, but for track work they look very nice.

The Espelir exhausts are a work of art. To me the only thing with nicer welds and heavier hardware is Perrin. I'm sure there is other stuff, but not in that price range.
bboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 01:39 PM   #13
PARANOID56
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 22035
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:
2003 Brocoma DCab
71 FJ40, 13 DRZ400SM

Default

Do you ahve a pic of your car? i would like to compair
Thanks
Shane
Quote:
Originally Posted by soso3

I have the Eibach pro kit and it lowers 1.3" front and 1.0" rear - which evens out the wheel gap from the factory springs.
PARANOID56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 01:51 PM   #14
Arnie
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 1725
Join Date: Jun 2000
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Germany
Vehicle:
99 Subaru Impreza
GF silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PARANOID56
well, i can say dont get the Eibach ones, as mine have a larger front gap then the rear, its sort of crapy looing. the rears almost look like they are too low, and the front look too high.
Shane
I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact you have an RS, i.e. lighter engine, etc. Hence, the front is weighted as much compared to a WRX, leading to more fender gap up front.
Arnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 04:44 PM   #15
PARANOID56
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 22035
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:
2003 Brocoma DCab
71 FJ40, 13 DRZ400SM

Default

could be, did not really think of that. but i though it was only a little bit of weight.
oh well, i wonder if i could make a rear spacer to raise up the rear
Shane
PARANOID56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 05:55 PM   #16
Arnie
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 1725
Join Date: Jun 2000
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Germany
Vehicle:
99 Subaru Impreza
GF silver

Default

Or you could just cut a coil up front!
Arnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 06:10 PM   #17
Rich10
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 14934
Join Date: Feb 2002
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Long Island
Vehicle:
2002 WRX
WRB

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnie
Or you could just cut a coil up front!
Just heat the front springs with a blow torch.
Rich10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 06:53 PM   #18
PARANOID56
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 22035
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:
2003 Brocoma DCab
71 FJ40, 13 DRZ400SM

Default

yea, then we are getting getto and i already hit curbs so i dont want to be any lower, my rear tires are inside the fenders, and looks crappy. so, i want the rear raised.
oh well
Shane
PARANOID56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 07:55 PM   #19
PARANOID56
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 22035
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:
2003 Brocoma DCab
71 FJ40, 13 DRZ400SM

Default

here are the Eibach ones. sorry, for the bad pic
PARANOID56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 08:01 PM   #20
CalcVictim
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 57056
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Brighton, MA
Vehicle:
2006 Miata
Copper Red

Default

I have Tein-S, and they ride firmer then stock so on crappy roads it's bumpy but otherwise great improvement in handling and looks. If I was choosing again I would get them again.
CalcVictim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2004, 11:02 PM   #21
StevesGT
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 68193
Join Date: Aug 2004
Default

Espelir is produced by the same company that make Volk wheels.
StevesGT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 08:20 AM   #22
soso3
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 36794
Join Date: May 2003
Location: BYPKI
Vehicle:
89 T I T A N

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PARANOID56
here are the Eibach ones. sorry, for the bad pic
Take the dead bodies out of the trunk

j/k--that's weird.

I like your wheels-what type/size?
soso3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 10:08 AM   #23
PARANOID56
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 22035
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: San Diego, CA
Vehicle:
2003 Brocoma DCab
71 FJ40, 13 DRZ400SM

Default

they are just some cheap 17" wheels that i got off of www.wheelmax.com. and sorry dont remember the size, but they are the same outside diam as the stock set.
yea, nothing in the trunk too. its looked like that since i have installed it, oh, it got a bit lower after they broke in
Shane
PARANOID56 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 11:48 PM   #24
csacom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 27441
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Palmerton, PA
Vehicle:
2003 WRX
Sonic Yellow

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PARANOID56
they are just some cheap 17" wheels that i got off of www.wheelmax.com. and sorry dont remember the size, but they are the same outside diam as the stock set.
yea, nothing in the trunk too. its looked like that since i have installed it, oh, it got a bit lower after they broke in
Shane

I like the way the silver ring offsets the black centers. Sometimes black rims dissapear in the blackness of the tire and wheel well.
csacom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2004, 11:54 PM   #25
csacom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 27441
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Palmerton, PA
Vehicle:
2003 WRX
Sonic Yellow

Default

Ok, the Prodrive springs were installed on Friday. So far I am very happy with them. I like the way the car sits, nice even well gaps. I also am very pleased with the handling. Honestly, I noticed a greater degredation in ride when I went from 16's to 17's. I think the car rides awesome, in fact I think it handles some bumps better than the stock setup. I like the way I can feel the road more, and the tightness of the suspension. Below are a few new pics. Thanks again everyone!




Last edited by csacom; 09-23-2004 at 06:04 PM.
csacom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to get rid of dust/pollen and not swirl paint after detail. tacomaprime Car Care & Detailing 19 05-28-2010 01:05 PM
Trying to pick springs to get rid of wheel gap cmac23 Brakes, Steering & Suspension 2 09-18-2007 09:06 PM
NJ to get rid of front license plates? trailertravis13 Tri-State Area Forum 62 08-07-2007 01:19 AM
petition to get rid of front plates requirement vile Southern California Impreza Club Forum -- SCIC 50 08-18-2006 04:51 PM
to get rid of my cats or not dynoguy Mid West Subaru Owners Club Forum -- MWSOC 8 05-01-2003 02:33 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2015 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2015, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.