opinion on exhaust

HydeX · 10-17-2000, 03:44 AM

Should I go with the STI exhaust or the scooby sport one? Please help me decide thanks

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Corey · 10-17-2000, 05:09 AM

You need to let us know what you want from your exhaust. What are your priorities: sound, looks, performance?

The two exhausts are VERY different.

mav1c · 10-17-2000, 06:04 AM

Considered the Stromung?

Swivel1000 · 10-17-2000, 01:17 PM

Sound and performance..

Performance, all will be close, although the Strohmung has been dynoed to be a bit higher than the rest as far as gains.

Sound wise..i am really pleased with it. Although i just wish i was a bit meaner after 3000 rpms...regardless my intake kicks in there so it works out.

matt

Jewbaru · 10-17-2000, 01:32 PM

I have the A'PEXi N1, nice muffler. REALLY LOUD, it drones a bit, but open windows, or the stereo drowns it out. Very nice deep tone.

Very free flowing, felt a nice gain on the high RPMs.

Looks very nice on the RS. complements the huge fogs and hood scoops.

here's a pic of mine:

[This message has been edited by Jewbaru (edited October 17, 2000).]

Travis R · 10-17-2000, 01:44 PM

Mav, don't worry, it IS cheap. The muffler and the piping are both aluminized steel. I painted the muffler black with high temp paint. The original silver color really stood out from under the bumper and looked a little weird. I didn't really need stainless though, since we don't salt the roads here in the winter. It should last quite a while.
I will be the first to tell you that it ain't real pretty, but it works just fine. Very little interior resonance too.

mav1c · 10-17-2000, 02:34 PM

Actually, a MAJOR the reason why mufflers rust out is because of the condensation on the INSIDE. As the muffler cools, it condenses the water in it, which settles at the bottom, and rusts from the inside out. Not being in a climate where you get all the salt and crap on the road WILL help though. Just my $.02

nathan power · 10-17-2000, 05:59 PM

Go with Rallispec. Sounds and looks great. Plus i think it was best hp gainer out there. I could be wrong. I love mine and thats all that counts. Nate.

grnlantern1 · 10-17-2000, 06:38 PM

the scooby sport has stainless hangers and looks pretty stock but sounds deep n loud

S.Damery · 10-17-2000, 07:01 PM

I'd suggest getting an exhaust system custom made. Any reputable shop can bend the piping (go 2 1/4" if you wish to stay N/A or larger for a turbo). Then you get to pick out a universal muffler you want to go with i.e. Flowmaster, Borla, Apexi or even a lesser known one like I have, Naxxos. If it's too loud, you can have the shop weld in a resonator to quiet things down a bit. Shop around and get some estimates, it should range from $200 to no more than $300-350 tops. They're all gonna flow as well as the $600+ ones do +/- a few HP. Hope this helps.
-Shawn

rpone605 · 10-17-2000, 09:28 PM

R&D on a custom exhaust...hmmm why bother..you should already know what size you want by looking at what all these people overcharge for there exhausts.

HydeX · 10-18-2000, 12:04 AM

I'm looking for sound and performance

rpone605 · 10-18-2000, 12:06 AM

do you want it to be loud??

best bet (IMO) is to go custom and have it made...it should be cheaper...the scooby sport exhaust is hella expensive. as well as the stromung is costly too and if you don't get the stainless stromung it looks like garbage after a year.

mav1c · 10-18-2000, 12:25 AM

Custom may cost less, but there's USUALLY no R&D involved...unless you just coppy what's out there. How much did custom cost you?

As for the Stromung, it IS a bit pricey, and it IS a little loud, but what sweet racket it is! And if you get stainless....you NEVER have to worry about the exhaust for the life of the car.

Travis R · 10-18-2000, 12:42 AM

If you are planning on just a cat-back exhaust (compared to headers, highflow cats, etc.), a local shop should be able to do a fine job. This isn't brain surgery, it a pipe with a few bends and a muffler. I'm not knocking the pre-fab systems out there, I'm sure they are very nice, but not worth the $$$ IMHO, especially on a N/A car.
What you decide depends on how much you want to spend. If money isn't a problem, then get what ever you want. But if money does play a factor, then buy the muffler you think best suits your needs based on sound level (how loud), sound quality, looks (stainless steel, carbon fiber, tin-foil), and cost. Then have a local muffler shop install it.
The difference in performance is probably going to be very minimal.
I paid about $300 total for my custom cat back and flowmaster muffler. I love it. http://216.242.153.40/MembersList/Us...lowmaster2.jpg

mav1c · 10-18-2000, 12:53 AM

Travis,

Is it mild steel or stainless? Looks a little "cheap". JUUUUUUUST my opinion.

TMR Impreza · 10-18-2000, 01:25 AM

Well, I must step into this one. I have just installed the ISR 3" cat back system and let me tell you. MY CAR HAS NEVER PERFORMED AS GOOD AS IT IS PERFORMING NOW. This exhaust not only looks and performs good, It sounds good. But yes, it is a 3" exhaust, but not to worry, We also installed the 2 1/4 cat back syste on a stock car and that, made his car pull much harder. We tried the Greddy, Tanabe Racing Medalion and the the ISR system, and felt the most gain and sounded the best with the ISR system. The tipps are angled up, DTM stlye, and to be honest when Pam told me that, I was like no way, never on my car, but now that I see it in person, Its BAD ASS. Give her a call and ask her about it. I will have pics in a few days.
www.wonderlan.com/~hksupra

Fusion · 10-18-2000, 01:36 AM

Donald,

But does it still shoot flames?

Haig

PS How did everything with Grillcraft go?

NYEJ25 · 10-18-2000, 05:38 AM

I got my Stromung s.s. dual tip put on yesterday, I'm still waiting for the mid pipe to come in. But with the new muffler the car pulls a little more up top. But the sound is the best part. At highway speeds you can hardly hear it, but when you bring it up it loud, but not over powering. I love the sound, it ain't no Honda. They say the mid pipe will make it louder, I hope so. I love this system, and highly recommend it to all impreza owners.
Drew

bluesube · 10-18-2000, 05:49 AM

I just ordered an Sti exhaust plus 2.25" midpipe from Mike Shields for ~$370 plus shipping. Entire unit is stainless steel and the reviews I've read from others has been great. Definite performance boost, yet quiet-- my two requirements. I think for the price you can't beat this system. Hope to receive and install this weekend and will post impressions.

leo
'99 blue RS

HydeX · 10-18-2000, 11:18 AM

Thanks for the info guys yea i heard also that the rallispec one was good. Anyone got pictures of it installed also how is the sound quality on the rallispec one

Jewbaru · 10-18-2000, 11:49 AM

mine was fixed by Rallispec. The intial installers screwed up, so I had Rallispec fix it while I was out there.

Did you check their site? www.rallispec.com

HydeX · 10-18-2000, 10:16 PM

Anyone got a picture of the rallispec exhaust installed on their car? If you could post it that would be great thanks

mykrrrr · 10-19-2000, 01:50 PM

which exhaust is the closest to a Grp N or WRC sound??? that's what I want...the pop and crackel...

-myk"sorry for being *ricey*"rrrr

Penphoe · 10-19-2000, 02:22 PM

mykrrr - Scoobysport! That'll getcha closest to the rally sound out of an Impreza.

LaterZ!
Darren!!

10-17-2000, 03:44 AM	#1
HydeX Scooby Newbie Member#: 2497 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: www.rs25.com Vehicle: 2001 2.5 RS Blue Ridge Pearl	opinion on exhaust Should I go with the STI exhaust or the scooby sport one? Please help me decide thanks * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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10-17-2000, 05:09 AM	#2
Corey Scooby Specialist Member#: 618 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: PA, USA Vehicle: 2000 2.5 RS #89 STS MODERacing / Bridgestone	You need to let us know what you want from your exhaust. What are your priorities: sound, looks, performance? The two exhausts are VERY different.

10-17-2000, 06:04 AM	#3
mav1c Hoodbridge! Moderator Member#: 560 Join Date: Nov 1999 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Woodbridge, VA Vehicle: 2006 STi, '11 A4 Crystal Gray, Silver	Considered the Stromung?

10-17-2000, 01:17 PM	#4
Swivel1000 Scooby Specialist Member#: 1168 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Houston, TX Vehicle: 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4	Sound and performance.. Performance, all will be close, although the Strohmung has been dynoed to be a bit higher than the rest as far as gains. Sound wise..i am really pleased with it. Although i just wish i was a bit meaner after 3000 rpms...regardless my intake kicks in there so it works out. matt

10-17-2000, 01:32 PM	#5
Jewbaru Scooby Specialist Member#: 1994 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: "Teh Hebro Town"	I have the A'PEXi N1, nice muffler. REALLY LOUD, it drones a bit, but open windows, or the stereo drowns it out. Very nice deep tone. Very free flowing, felt a nice gain on the high RPMs. Looks very nice on the RS. complements the huge fogs and hood scoops. here's a pic of mine: [This message has been edited by Jewbaru (edited October 17, 2000).]

10-17-2000, 01:44 PM	#6
Travis R Scooby Specialist Member#: 153 Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Austin, TX Vehicle: '07 Mazda CX-7, '91 BMW 535i & '06 Ninja 650R	Mav, don't worry, it IS cheap. The muffler and the piping are both aluminized steel. I painted the muffler black with high temp paint. The original silver color really stood out from under the bumper and looked a little weird. I didn't really need stainless though, since we don't salt the roads here in the winter. It should last quite a while. I will be the first to tell you that it ain't real pretty, but it works just fine. Very little interior resonance too.

10-17-2000, 02:34 PM	#7
mav1c Hoodbridge! Moderator Member#: 560 Join Date: Nov 1999 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Woodbridge, VA Vehicle: 2006 STi, '11 A4 Crystal Gray, Silver	Actually, a MAJOR the reason why mufflers rust out is because of the condensation on the INSIDE. As the muffler cools, it condenses the water in it, which settles at the bottom, and rusts from the inside out. Not being in a climate where you get all the salt and crap on the road WILL help though. Just my $.02

10-17-2000, 05:59 PM	#8
nathan power Scooby Newbie Member#: 2208 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: trenton, nj, usa	Go with Rallispec. Sounds and looks great. Plus i think it was best hp gainer out there. I could be wrong. I love mine and thats all that counts. Nate.

10-17-2000, 06:38 PM	#9
grnlantern1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 2589 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Sunny San Dog!! Vehicle: 1998 GC8 Do-Luck Acadia Green Metallic	the scooby sport has stainless hangers and looks pretty stock but sounds deep n loud

10-17-2000, 07:01 PM	#10
S.Damery Scooby Newbie Member#: 1770 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ayer, MA, USA	I'd suggest getting an exhaust system custom made. Any reputable shop can bend the piping (go 2 1/4" if you wish to stay N/A or larger for a turbo). Then you get to pick out a universal muffler you want to go with i.e. Flowmaster, Borla, Apexi or even a lesser known one like I have, Naxxos. If it's too loud, you can have the shop weld in a resonator to quiet things down a bit. Shop around and get some estimates, it should range from $200 to no more than $300-350 tops. They're all gonna flow as well as the $600+ ones do +/- a few HP. Hope this helps. -Shawn

10-17-2000, 09:28 PM	#11
rpone605 Scooby Specialist Member#: 1669 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Vehicle: 2004 WRX Sport Wagon Silver	R&D on a custom exhaust...hmmm why bother..you should already know what size you want by looking at what all these people overcharge for there exhausts.

10-18-2000, 12:04 AM	#12
HydeX Scooby Newbie Member#: 2497 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: www.rs25.com Vehicle: 2001 2.5 RS Blue Ridge Pearl	I'm looking for sound and performance

10-18-2000, 12:06 AM	#13
rpone605 Scooby Specialist Member#: 1669 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Vehicle: 2004 WRX Sport Wagon Silver	do you want it to be loud?? best bet (IMO) is to go custom and have it made...it should be cheaper...the scooby sport exhaust is hella expensive. as well as the stromung is costly too and if you don't get the stainless stromung it looks like garbage after a year.

10-18-2000, 12:25 AM	#14
mav1c Hoodbridge! Moderator Member#: 560 Join Date: Nov 1999 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Woodbridge, VA Vehicle: 2006 STi, '11 A4 Crystal Gray, Silver	Custom may cost less, but there's USUALLY no R&D involved...unless you just coppy what's out there. How much did custom cost you? As for the Stromung, it IS a bit pricey, and it IS a little loud, but what sweet racket it is! And if you get stainless....you NEVER have to worry about the exhaust for the life of the car.

10-18-2000, 12:42 AM	#15
Travis R Scooby Specialist Member#: 153 Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Austin, TX Vehicle: '07 Mazda CX-7, '91 BMW 535i & '06 Ninja 650R	If you are planning on just a cat-back exhaust (compared to headers, highflow cats, etc.), a local shop should be able to do a fine job. This isn't brain surgery, it a pipe with a few bends and a muffler. I'm not knocking the pre-fab systems out there, I'm sure they are very nice, but not worth the $$$ IMHO, especially on a N/A car. What you decide depends on how much you want to spend. If money isn't a problem, then get what ever you want. But if money does play a factor, then buy the muffler you think best suits your needs based on sound level (how loud), sound quality, looks (stainless steel, carbon fiber, tin-foil), and cost. Then have a local muffler shop install it. The difference in performance is probably going to be very minimal. I paid about $300 total for my custom cat back and flowmaster muffler. I love it. http://216.242.153.40/MembersList/Us...lowmaster2.jpg

10-18-2000, 12:53 AM	#16
mav1c Hoodbridge! Moderator Member#: 560 Join Date: Nov 1999 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Woodbridge, VA Vehicle: 2006 STi, '11 A4 Crystal Gray, Silver	Travis, Is it mild steel or stainless? Looks a little "cheap". JUUUUUUUST my opinion.

10-18-2000, 01:25 AM	#17
TMR Impreza Scooby Specialist Member#: 168 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Pedro Vehicle: 2011 M3 and STI white	Well, I must step into this one. I have just installed the ISR 3" cat back system and let me tell you. MY CAR HAS NEVER PERFORMED AS GOOD AS IT IS PERFORMING NOW. This exhaust not only looks and performs good, It sounds good. But yes, it is a 3" exhaust, but not to worry, We also installed the 2 1/4 cat back syste on a stock car and that, made his car pull much harder. We tried the Greddy, Tanabe Racing Medalion and the the ISR system, and felt the most gain and sounded the best with the ISR system. The tipps are angled up, DTM stlye, and to be honest when Pam told me that, I was like no way, never on my car, but now that I see it in person, Its BAD ASS. Give her a call and ask her about it. I will have pics in a few days. www.wonderlan.com/~hksupra

10-18-2000, 01:36 AM	#18
Fusion Scooby Specialist Member#: 553 Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: In the trash can to which peop Vehicle: 2000 2.5RS Coupe Silverthorne Metallic	Donald, But does it still shoot flames? Haig PS How did everything with Grillcraft go?

10-18-2000, 05:38 AM	#19
NYEJ25 Scooby Specialist Member#: 1876 Join Date: Jul 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State	I got my Stromung s.s. dual tip put on yesterday, I'm still waiting for the mid pipe to come in. But with the new muffler the car pulls a little more up top. But the sound is the best part. At highway speeds you can hardly hear it, but when you bring it up it loud, but not over powering. I love the sound, it ain't no Honda. They say the mid pipe will make it louder, I hope so. I love this system, and highly recommend it to all impreza owners. Drew

10-18-2000, 05:49 AM	#20
bluesube Scooby Newbie Member#: 1376 Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Powell, OH USA	I just ordered an Sti exhaust plus 2.25" midpipe from Mike Shields for ~$370 plus shipping. Entire unit is stainless steel and the reviews I've read from others has been great. Definite performance boost, yet quiet-- my two requirements. I think for the price you can't beat this system. Hope to receive and install this weekend and will post impressions. leo '99 blue RS

10-18-2000, 11:18 AM	#21
HydeX Scooby Newbie Member#: 2497 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: www.rs25.com Vehicle: 2001 2.5 RS Blue Ridge Pearl	Thanks for the info guys yea i heard also that the rallispec one was good. Anyone got pictures of it installed also how is the sound quality on the rallispec one

10-18-2000, 11:49 AM	#22
Jewbaru Scooby Specialist Member#: 1994 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: "Teh Hebro Town"	mine was fixed by Rallispec. The intial installers screwed up, so I had Rallispec fix it while I was out there. Did you check their site? www.rallispec.com

10-18-2000, 10:16 PM	#23
HydeX Scooby Newbie Member#: 2497 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: www.rs25.com Vehicle: 2001 2.5 RS Blue Ridge Pearl	Anyone got a picture of the rallispec exhaust installed on their car? If you could post it that would be great thanks

10-19-2000, 01:50 PM	#24
mykrrrr Scooby Guru Member#: 733 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Squadra Delle Pecore Nere Vehicle: '13 Focus ST '85 GTi rally/road race	which exhaust is the closest to a Grp N or WRC sound??? that's what I want...the pop and crackel... -myk"sorry for being ricey"rrrr

10-19-2000, 02:22 PM	#25
Penphoe Friendly Neighbourhood Moderator Member#: 269 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Burnaby, B.C., Canada Vehicle: 2005 ABP LGT LTD BP6 00 Impreza RS GM6 RIP	mykrrr - Scoobysport! That'll getcha closest to the rally sound out of an Impreza. LaterZ! Darren!!