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Old 10-24-2000, 10:03 AM   #1
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I am getting the Prodrive 330mm brake kit and I am debating whether to try the install myself.

Has ANYONE done a COMPLETE brake kit install that can give me some tips/instructions? I have NEVER worked on brakes AT ALL, so it's ALL new to me. Would I be better off taking it to a professional cost and eating the labor costs?

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Old 10-24-2000, 10:49 AM   #2
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If you're referring to the Prodrive/Alcon kit, Adam Bloom has this. You might want to ask him about install details.
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Old 10-24-2000, 11:05 AM   #3
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Its dead easy..

Hardest/time consuming part in bleeding the system.

Be carefull of the brake fluid.. dont get any on the paint work... thats no-no!!

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Old 10-24-2000, 11:37 AM   #4
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Is it fairly simple to replace the wheel bearings at the same time?

And do you need a puller to get the old disks off?

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Old 10-24-2000, 11:40 AM   #5
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Hey. Thanks for all the pointers! Bleeding the brakes is really my only worry. How do you know you've gotten ALL the air out of the system? Do you have to add more fluid once you've bled the system? Is there any way to change the front/rear bias?

Thanks.

Anyone in the DC area is welcome to come by and help out!

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Old 10-24-2000, 11:44 AM   #6
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The rotors come off dead easy.. no puller required.

But doing the bearings is more involved that doing a brake upgrade.

Yep..you need to top up the fluid..

I'd replace all the fluid while you are at it.. maybe upgrade... in which case.. I hope you have good leg muscles.. or a powered brake bleeder... heehee... you need to clear all the fluid through the system..

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Old 10-24-2000, 01:24 PM   #7
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Pumping the brakes 500 times?! WO!

Well...I can get my girlfriend to do it.

Question. Can you do one wheels at a time? How does THAT work?

Know of any Sites that give DETAILED brake bleeding instructions?

Thanks again for all the help!

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Old 10-24-2000, 01:40 PM   #8
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One wheel at a time huh? YUCK!

I gues sthat should have been pretty obvious though huh?
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Old 10-24-2000, 01:47 PM   #9
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Here's what it looks like when you change the brakes:
http://members.home.net/gopspin/mods/brakes.htm

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Old 10-24-2000, 03:23 PM   #10
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What you can do is install speed bleeders (don't know your part number) and then bleed them all at the same time, plus you can do it by yourself.

You can also go to Sears, Pepboys, or someplace and buy a brake bleeding kit (comes with a catch container, hose, and different rubber connectors). They allow you to bleed the brakes by yourself also. Get four of them and go at it.

Makes life easy. I know it helped me when I changed my pads and bleed my brakes.
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Old 10-24-2000, 09:13 PM   #11
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Brucelee, did you get new rotors or a used set? The rotors in my photos were covered in a very thin paint, probably to keep them from rusting on the shelf. The paint burned off real quick.

As a side note: where I live, there are no self-serve car washing places. And I have no access to a hose. The brushless car wash place I must use unfortunately will use that brake cleaner stuff on my wheels "free" (probably cuz they feel sorry for the massive amount of dust the STi's generate in a week of driving). Well, that spray on crap bleaches the calipers! So avoid that stuff like the plague if you're fashion conscious. (Doesn't bother me, except I suspect it's not good for the rotors, either.)

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Old 10-25-2000, 12:27 AM   #12
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OK. I'm naive. Why would I need "strong legs" or a p0wered brake bleeder?
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Hey Jay, I know what you mean about brake fluid and paint! My front RH STi strut is now red with white poka-dots
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Old 10-25-2000, 06:14 AM   #14
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For those changing their brakes or those who have done it can you tell me what the distance is between the two mounting holes for the caliper. I am trying to upgrade to wilwood calipers and so i need to know what is the closest caliper they have that will fit the RS. I am proably going to machine a braket since i doubt that a wilwood will be a bolt on. Thanks
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Old 10-25-2000, 07:18 AM   #15
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greg,

I thought I saw a site that had a Wildwood Brake kit for the Suparu...hmmmm....I can't remember what it was. I'll look into it...

Maybe do a search, or call Wildwood direct.
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Check the Wilwood site, www.wilwood.com.

I looked at the application chart and all they list are American makes.

Maybe it was Baer Racing that has the kit for Subarus.

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Old 10-25-2000, 07:58 AM   #17
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Call Reggie at http://www.lac-ss.com/hauteperformance.html

He has the brackets, the Wilwood Dynalite 4 pots, the pads, etc. That is what I have on my car. With the exchange rate you should get a very good deal. This is what they use on their WRX-STI V rallye car.

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Old 10-26-2000, 06:21 AM   #19
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Ok so after a very long conversation with Lachute (sp) subaru. Here is the scoop on the Wilwood brake setup. He sells the brakets to mount the Wilwood Dynalite II's to the subaru using stock rotors. The PRice is $100 (US) just for the brackets and the Wilwoods will need modifications and machining to fit the RS's rotors. He already has the calipers with the mods done to them and is asking $160 (us dollars) per caliper. I asked him as to what machining is involved in modding the caliper and basically the willwodds arent set up for our thickness of rotors so they compensate by machining the rolor down and rebuilding them. TO make a long and techinical story short its possible to do this your self but not very cost effective. Oh and they run this set up on their rally car and swear by it. Of course they also run a willwood master cyl but thats another story.

Summit sells the Dynalite II's for $99 but he sells them for $160 so in the end we are talking about $320 for two calipers and another $100 for the brackets and about $30 in shipping to the US. For about $450 plus tax i think, you could have a Willwood 4 pots on the subaru. Is it worth it? well still cheaper the stock subaru 4 pots and probably better stopping power as well. Give them a call they are great in customer service and aswering my 1001 questions about installations. If you speak French it helps!
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