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Old 07-20-2004, 10:22 AM   #1
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Subaru Stars COBB Tuning Heads and Short Block

I am looking at getting a COBB Stage 2 Cylinder Head and Short Block. My question is...If I put a nice F.A.T. Stage 2 turbo on this , how's my car gonna be running and how fast/powerful will it be?
Anyone have any idea on this one, cause it would be really helpful.
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Old 07-20-2004, 10:40 AM   #2
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The car will be probobly stock WRX fast with enough torque to easily throw you back in your seat, but the potential of that engine would be horribly wasted on a stock FAT kit. You NEED standalone engine management to even come close to utilizing the strength and power of that shortblock. If I were you I would wait for the new FAT kits to come out with GT30R and frontmount. That with standalone and you are looking at awesome power upwards in the 300hp range for which you will end up spending another 8k beefing up your drivetrain to support.

don't think that your investemt of the block/heads/Turbo kit do it. You will also need to upgrade countless parts as they fail from the power that engine will make.

but if you have the cash go for it!!! I love working on my car. Know that if will be a constant project, and you will most likely end up getting another car as a daily driver down the road. If you just want more power buy a WRX. You could easily sell you car and get a WRX for alot less than that engne combo is going to run you. If you want a project.. go ahead and turbo your RS.

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Old 07-20-2004, 01:55 PM   #3
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I am definitely looking for a project Todd. Thanks for the help. I'm gonna hold off until that turbo comes out. Thanks again!
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Old 07-20-2004, 02:03 PM   #4
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By the way...can anyone tell me what the different is between turbos. For example, whats the the difference between the GT30 and the RA30 and what it stands for???
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Old 07-20-2004, 03:32 PM   #5
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if you want a motor that someone will stand behind get an Axis Motor....things are bullet proof
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Old 07-20-2004, 03:54 PM   #6
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Have you contacted all the well know builders around here? Are cobb even offering heads right now? Last I heard thier waiting list is so long they arnt even going to sell any heads for a while, and the wait for thier blocks isnt much shorter. Axis has a nice wait for thier motors too, I belive kingpin has been waiting ~4 months. Magnus has the longest waiting list 5+ months after people have paid. I would call or email all of the builders listed here and ask what they can do to meet your goals. Good luck and I hope you have the bank roll ready.

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Old 07-20-2004, 03:59 PM   #7
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One of my buddies got a cobb long block and it took something on the order of 8+ months to show up, he claims to have done about 12K in business with them on this latest project! That's a lot of time to be sitting on 12K of anyone's money.
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:11 PM   #8
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One of my buddies got a cobb long block and it took something on the order of 8+ months to show up, he claims to have done about 12K in business with them on this latest project! That's a lot of time to be sitting on 12K of anyone's money.
Sadly that is about average for most race motor builders. The guys who ordered from magnus paid a good while after they ordered and its been over 5 months since then and still no sing of the short block. Verry few shops keep parts in stock and when things go to custom sizes things take even longer. Parts are made in small expencive batches for our cars.
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:05 AM   #9
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I have also heard that cobb takes for ever and isn't reliable. hear good things about thier products for those who do get them. also, if i remember correctly, the cobb stage 2 block is for NA and has higher compression pistons. so ah, i wouldn't do that if you are looking to go NA. Peace.
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