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Old 07-21-2004, 04:06 PM   #1
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Has anyone tried to put the new ez30-r into a GC8. I know over at Lina Racing the put the ez30 in their 95 impreza. But i haven't been able to find hardly any info about the ez30-r, a swap with this motor, or anyplace you could get an ez30-r crate motor.

I really want to know if this is feasible because I just love the sound and low end pull of an NA motor.

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Old 07-21-2004, 04:58 PM   #2
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Nobody has tried, that is why there is no info. You will have to get the EZ30R via Subaru probably.
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Old 07-23-2004, 12:47 PM   #3
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I try ... not possible ..
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:54 PM   #4
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Really? What was wrong?
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:52 AM   #5
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Nobody has tried, that is why there is no info. You will have to get the EZ30R via Subaru probably.
remember waayyy back when Cobb was still in Texas, they had a small meet there with a GC8 with an H6 swap..
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Old 07-24-2004, 05:11 AM   #6
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Hey Kenny, I too am very interested in doing a swap to a new H6. Not only that but attempting to supercharge it also. Where is walnut creek? Weshould collaborate. :-)
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:17 PM   #7
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Contact a vender that imports motors, ask for the JDM H6 that has 250hp N/A. That would be amazing....and with a super charger, talk about low end torque.
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Let's hear it for broken axles and melted syncros!!
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Old 07-25-2004, 03:52 PM   #9
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Old 07-25-2004, 05:31 PM   #10
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Has anyone tried to put the new ez30-r into a GC8. I know over at Lina Racing the put the ez30 in their 95 impreza.
EZ30 does not = EZ30-R. Nobody has done an EZ30-R swap yet. atchernyshev said he tried, but we need more info.
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Old 07-25-2004, 09:16 PM   #11
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Sorry, I didn't realize that anders had no mention of the 3.0R being the same dimentions and configuration as the regular EZ30. However, The new legacy outbacks that are now available in the US are using the 3.0r motor with the AVCS and all.

Previous failures at swapping in the 30R were not due to engine size ot configuration, but more attributed to wiring and lack of aftermarket support for EMS as well as other parts needed to make the swap work. Anders pioneered all his own parts which made it work, Someone would need to do the same to allow for the 30r to work as well but would experience more problems due to teh AVCS I would imagine.
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Old 08-03-2004, 12:26 AM   #12
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Well so far I have heard that the ez30-r will at least fit in a GC8. This is very good news to me because the rest is a matter of custom work and a whole lot of time. Electrically, anything is possible as long as I can weed throught that nightmare of a wiring harness. And fortunately I have access to a dyno and a really good engine management tuner.

If any of you happen to catch updates about this swap being performed, or you have any other advice then lets keep this thread going. If Subaru is producing a 250 hp NA motor then I can assume that I am not the only one who wants to put it in their 2800lb. Impreza.

I look forward to hearing more input.

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P.S. Walnut Creek is located 45 minutes east of San Francisco.
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Old 08-03-2004, 12:05 PM   #13
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the wiring would be just as hard as doing a 02 wrx engine into a older impreza...none of the systems are suppose to work together....lol
I'm sure it could be done though...the only issue I could see would be the tach signal on the gauge cluster itself...
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:50 PM   #14
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I am not the only one who wants to put it in their 2800lb. Impreza.
Yes, you are the only one. Personally, I want it in my 2600lbs Impreza
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Old 08-03-2004, 06:55 PM   #15
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Yes, you are the only one. Personally, I want it in my 2600lbs Impreza
Acually Kenny is right, he has a 2000 impreza, that weights about 2800lbs. your 95 impreza is about 2600lbs.
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Old 08-03-2004, 07:39 PM   #16
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yeah...in 97 they gained about 200 lbs...and even more if you got the extra stuff like moon roof
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Old 08-03-2004, 07:57 PM   #17
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Why? There's so little support for the H6 motors, from the aftermarket. It'd be a nightmare - every little piece would need to be facbricated. Good luck finding management for that motor, headers, cams, etc.

Wouldn't a good N/A build on an EJ25 make more sense?
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Acually Kenny is right, he has a 2000 impreza, that weights about 2800lbs. your 95 impreza is about 2600lbs.
I know that. I think I just phrased that wrong... I was trying to make a funny.
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Wouldn't a good N/A build on an EJ25 make more sense?
No. Because it would cost more for the N/A build, and you would only end up with ~230-240hp at most. Meanwhile, with the STOCK EZ30-R will have 250hp out of the box, not including bolt ons (intake, exhaust, flywheel/clutch) or ECU management (a reflash, or even a stand alone would equate to more HP without touching the motors internals... AVCS is actually quite useful) which will probably get you close to 300hp without doing any internal work.
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Yeah, but the ez30 is heavier and unwieldy. Welp, if it is what your heart desires, I suppose...
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i have this strange desire to be unique, which seems to cost me lots of money and frusteration, LOL.

heck if i had the money i would do a EZ30R turbo

anything is possible if you have the resources and time, or can afford to pay someone else to do the work.

that swap is totally possible, i really think the issues will be the wiring and actually sourcing parts since it is so new.

good luck

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Old 08-04-2004, 03:39 PM   #22
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Yeah, but the ez30 is heavier and unwieldy. Welp, if it is what your heart desires, I suppose...
I bet it wiegths close to the usdm sti motor/turbo.
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I bet it wiegths close to the usdm sti motor/turbo.
It does. Turbo + the piping = alot of extra weight!

I think Anders H6 swap weighed somewhere around 2700lbs if im not mistaken...
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