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Old 07-02-2007, 03:46 PM   #1
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Default sub enclosures not made of that heavy presswood?

ill be working on the rest of my cars audio over the next few months. ill be putting a 10 in the trunk, but id like something a little less heavy than that presswood that everyone makes sub enclosures out of.

anyone know of any boxes that are custom made for the trunk on the side not made of that presswood?
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:52 PM   #2
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The perfect fit enclosure is a good choice. Check out audio integrations.
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:53 PM   #3
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thanks for the tip... i found their thread... does look pretty good.
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:57 PM   #4
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Fiberglass is about your only alternitive, which is where hector is pointing you... and by the time you build the same streingth in glass, it's comperable to MDF in weight... well, depending on the shape... the perfect fit is somewhat rounded and angular, which makes it MUCH stiffer and more solid with less weight....
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Old 07-02-2007, 03:58 PM   #5
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FYI, heavy is good, acoustically. I assume you want lighter for automotive performance reasons?
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:00 PM   #6
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ill be working on the rest of my cars audio over the next few months. ill be putting a 10 in the trunk, but id like something a little less heavy than that presswood that everyone makes sub enclosures out of.

anyone know of any boxes that are custom made for the trunk on the side not made of that presswood?
We use MDF because it does not resonate at audible frequencies...

Solid board may depending on application.

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Old 07-02-2007, 04:00 PM   #7
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FYI, heavy is good, acoustically. I assume you want lighter for automotive performance reasons?
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I've seen CEMENT used in comp cars... as i'm sure others here have as well...

A cement sphere...mmmm idealic..
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:04 PM   #8
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sphere...mmmm idealic..
Seen it done for a home theater.

I've also worked on a project where the walls were 1.5" think, with 1/2" think outside, and sand in the middle. 15" driver, 300lb enclosure.
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:40 PM   #9
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the AI boxes are AMAZING. I just got mine in the mail today with a few custom touches that I Jedi Mind Tricked Ryan and Nick on (in other words I asked them nicely ). It is lighter in weight than my personal fiberglassed box (not by a ton, but enough to notice). It also feels more soild and obviously looks awesome...no other way to describe it.

As the guys have already said, the heavier the box the better for acoustic properties, but with a fiberglassed enclosure such as the AI ones you'll be able to fit the same volume enclosure into a smaller area than you'd be able to with a traditional MDF box.

And before someone comes in here and says the AI boxes are too expensive...NO THEY ARE NOT. When you buy all the materials/safety gear you save yourself around $100 bucks, but end up spending somewhere between 3-5 days doing the box. It's not worth the effort unless you're doing something crazy with multiple subs in one enclosure.
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:13 PM   #10
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the lightest possible solution would have to be either running a free air sub, or designing an aperiodic enclosure.

in both cases usually only the mounting support for the sub will have any weight. (imagine just the front of a box only)

of course both take lots of skill and sometimes a specific type sub to work properly.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:17 PM   #11
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that's one of my projects this summer...build a workable aperiodic chamber that doesn't sound like ass
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:05 PM   #12
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that's one of my projects this summer...build a workable aperiodic chamber that doesn't sound like ass
yeah I bet it's hard. I don't have any experience with them myself. but it would be a fun project.

a couple of years ago I made a pretty nifty isobaric sealed box out of some old BMW 6.5" woofers. and it actually sounded pretty good.

I need another project.


On another note, I've installed some free air subs and really wasn't too impressed with output or quality.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:54 AM   #13
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I got to work on a Gran Am once that had 2-15" orion subs in a AP encloser, it was killer, sounded GREAT and went deep... It was back in like 95' i also got to work on a Thunderchicken that had a pair of the famed SoundStream SS10 in AP, that was AWESOME... a pair of SS10s for subs in AP, a pair of SS8s for midbass in the doors and a pair of 1200$ HLCDs
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Old 07-03-2007, 09:43 AM   #14
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i have a single 10" jl w3 in my 07 and the box is very light.. it is a ported enclo. just over a cub. and weighs about 20 lbs..i would think that is very light and you could get a sealed enclosure that is even smaller/lighter.
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that's one of my projects this summer...build a workable aperiodic chamber that doesn't sound like ass

Good luck with that
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I have so many projects this summer it's not even funny.
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I'm trying to figure out a way to do some aperiodic enclosures for my fronts in my truck. I think I just need to cut up my door cards a little more and add some batting. But I don't have all the equipment to test/tune it.
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APs can be made with things other than fiberglass...
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They aren't for everyone but Alumapro makes some decent lightweight setups that sound very good.
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On another note, I've installed some free air subs and really wasn't too impressed with output or quality.
I would be willing to bet you did not seal off every hole properly. It is 4-5 times as much work to build a proper AP or Free air system than a regular box. They will sound more natural, but not as much SPL.
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APs can be made with things other than fiberglass...
And...you could always vent it out of the car....If you cut the car, and seal the AP mat to the hole, presto, easy AP set up.
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