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Old 11-09-2000, 07:22 PM   #1
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Hey all!

I finally got my x-drilled rotors from the KVR GB. I sent them out to get Cryo'd and they should be back by next week. I'm ordering the S/S Braided Lines and CarbonFiber brake pads for both front and rears from SPO. (The darn GB for the KVR pads wasn't fast enuf! ) So in about 2 weeks I'll put it all in the GT. (Shaweet! )

So question is: what DOT4 Fluid do you all recommend? I put Castrol (regular) DOT4 fluid in my last car. I'm probably not gonna exceed the specs for boiling temp am I? Or will I when i go Auto-xing?
Should I just splurge for the good stuff or unnecessary?

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Old 11-09-2000, 07:58 PM   #2
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I would Use "Super Blue Racing". It can handle pretty much anything you can throw at it but costs a third of what Castrol SRF does.
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Old 11-09-2000, 09:43 PM   #3
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Chris - you do realize that the so called "Carbon Fibre" pads from SPO are only Semi-metallics which contain minute traces of Carbon Fibre right? They are made by Eurorotor if I'm not mistaken. Those are suppose to be "OEM-upgrade" pads, not a full fledge performance street pad like the KVR Carbon Fibre pads or EBC's etc.
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Old 11-09-2000, 10:37 PM   #4
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I just order 3 bottles of Motul 600 brake fliuds and a set of EBC greed stuff and a set of Goodridge SS line and a slot disc for my 92 Legacy turbo.
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Old 11-09-2000, 10:42 PM   #5
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WHeeellp guess i'm buying EBC Greens then for my fronts. I'll prob still buy the SPO rears. Unless anyone know of other suggestions? What has anyone else bought for their rears?

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Old 11-10-2000, 07:48 AM   #6
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Super Blue all the way, the Castorol LM is good, but pricey and a poor deal compared to the blue.
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Old 11-12-2000, 10:50 PM   #7
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Ford HD fluid is one of the best, and lower budget race teams use it on thier racecars.

I may actualy switch to the Ford from the supposedly superior castrol I have now, as a day on the track absolutely murdered the fluid.
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Old 11-13-2000, 09:30 AM   #8
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I second ATE Super Blue.
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Old 11-13-2000, 10:14 AM   #9
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Where can one obtain this Super Blue stuff at??
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Old 11-13-2000, 11:04 AM   #10
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who's the manufacturer for it?

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Old 11-13-2000, 11:56 AM   #11
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ATE makes superblue, They are an OEM rotor caliper supplier in Europe. They also make a heavy duty DOT fluid which has the exact same specs as Superblue, but is yellow like ordinary brake fluid. The US DOT requires that highway legal brake fluid be yellow (that's right, although I have never heard of anyone getting ticketed or failing inspection for using super blue). I have also heard good things about the Ford HD fluid. I once saw someone post the specs for many of the competitive brake fluids and the Ford fluid was right up there.

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Old 11-13-2000, 03:42 PM   #12
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"Exotic Muscle" in Tempe, AZ has Super blue and they are mail order.

480-967-4222

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Old 11-14-2000, 08:55 AM   #13
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Or you can go out to the local auto shop and pick up some Castrol GT-LMA. Excellent stuff! Came highly recommended to me by my mechanic (race team mechanic).
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Old 11-14-2000, 09:15 AM   #14
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what about valvoline synthetic it has a higher wet and dry boiling point than castrol LMA
dry 513
wet 333
http://www.valvoline.com/products/pr...asp?Product=48
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Old 02-01-2001, 04:25 PM   #15
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way after the fact but here; http://www57.pair.com/lane/bfluid.htm
"ATE Type 200 and Super Blue are not only the cheapest of the performance brake fluids, they are also the cheapest per degree of boil protection, and have a very high 6-month BP estimate. In addition you can alternate with each change and the color difference will tell you when you're done. Available from ogracing.com"
also note "AP600 is not compatibile with any other fluid." So don't try and mix with another fluid, you have to do a complete flush/replacement of previous fluid (if it was not AP600).
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Old 02-01-2001, 05:32 PM   #16
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Well, heck, I'll also join in way after the fact on this. The Ford HD fluid is no longer around as far as I know. However, Performance Friction Z fluid is/was the exact same stuff with a different label on it. The Ford HD fluid has a very good dry boiling point, but its wet BP is pretty low.

I'm now using Castrol Synthetic, available just about anywhere for a good price. It has a much higher wet boiling point than the Ford HD. (I vaguely recall reading somewhere that you should really go more by the wet boiling point than the dry, because as soon as you open the can you can assume the fluid absorbed at least a little bit of moisture).

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Old 02-01-2001, 05:38 PM   #17
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just follow the link I posted above. Look at the BP after 3 and 6 months. Also check the wet BP. If you change your brake fluid at 3 months, that the column for you. Then check pricing (the pricing on the page is probably out of date). For 6 month bp, the ATE superblue is still in the lead based on the price.
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Old 02-02-2001, 01:12 AM   #18
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okie since we're doing this way after the fact thing....hehe I had decided to go with the new NEO Super DOT4 fluid. I purchased it from SPOMotorsports. I had Metric Subaru install my s/s braided lines, and flush the brake fluid and use that instead. Overall- I am definately quite pleased! Very nice response, the pedal is nice and firm to the touch.

Thanks y'all for your help!

-chrisC
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Old 02-02-2001, 06:49 AM   #19
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That's some good info, anerd. I hadn't checked out that link last night.

I've heard very good things about the ATE, and may try that before I hit the track again, but that chart is a bit misleading on price. From what I've seen on-line, the ATE costs about $8.50 a liter, and Motul 600 is available for about $10 a liter. The Motul has significantly better dry and wet BPs. I vaguely recall reading somewhere that Motul absorbs fluid quicker than some of the other fluids out there, so that would be one downer (if it is true, of course).

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Old 02-02-2001, 07:54 AM   #20
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Anyone know the brand of our stock brake fluid?
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Old 02-02-2001, 02:10 PM   #21
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as long as they were never openned I would assume they're ok. No way of getting moisture into a completely sealed container
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Old 02-03-2001, 01:27 AM   #22
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I just wonder if the 2 quarts of superblue I got early last year is still any good. I did not get a chance to install my new braided brake lines and new fluid before the car got crunched.
The 2 cans are still in the original shipping box, with the packing paper. Do you think its still good? Never opened.
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