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Old 07-28-2004, 12:27 PM   #1
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Default new wagon-specific STi springs on XT??

Sorry guys, I don't have a part number or anything, but I'm trying to figure out if these spring will fit on my XT. I guess the main difference from the USDM STi stock springs is that they taper toward the top and are stiffer. Will my tophats work with them? Any help is greatly appreciated...

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Old 07-29-2004, 01:22 AM   #2
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some info here:

http://www.subaruforester.com/viewto...ht=sti+springs

Myself I have the JDM Forester STi springs on stock struts, it only drops it an inch. I think the USDM WRX STi springs drop the Forester about 3 inches or so.
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:33 PM   #3
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USDM WRX STi springs dropped mine 5.1 inches in the front and 5.4 in the rear. BIG Drop. Plus they will not fit nicely onto your FXT stock struts, hence you will blow them in a week if you drop it that much on stock struts.

Solution, WRX Wagon Struts, 2004 Tophats and WRX STi springs.

The STi springs (even the pinks) are pretty bouncy, for the money, I'd order a set of Tein S-Techs, slap them on WRX Wagon struts.

You're going to drop your car almost 6 inches... Not for everyone
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:15 PM   #4
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Hmm, most people who install USDM WRX STi springs on stock Forester struts seem to be getting a 1.5-2" drop.

The springs I'm asking about aren't the stock USDM STi springs, they are brand new wagon-specific STi pink springs with a higher spring rate. So, I'm thinking the total drop will be 2-2.5" on my stock XT struts. I'm trying to find out if I can use my stock Forester tophats with these new 04-05 WRX wagon-specific STi springs.

STi springs on stock Forester XT struts

My other choice is the STi Eibach Prokit. No Tein S-Techs for me ever again
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:01 AM   #5
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Looks like more then a 1.2 inch drop to me


The thing is, I had WRX STi struts and springs. Doing the STi springs on my stock struts blew my stockers in less then 2 weeks time
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:25 AM   #6
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I need to learn to read a little better, didn't see the Wagon specific. I'll have to look into that for my new TS
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Old 08-03-2004, 12:10 PM   #7
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BrysImpreza, you really blew out your stock struts that quick with USDM STI springs? I am planning on throwing a set of STI springs in this week with my stock FXT struts. I haven't heard of anyone else saying that theirs have blown.
This adds to my dilema, should I put them in already, or let them sit in my basement for another 2 months.
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Old 08-03-2004, 12:50 PM   #8
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BrysImpreza, you really blew out your stock struts that quick with USDM STI springs? I am planning on throwing a set of STI springs in this week with my stock FXT struts. I haven't heard of anyone else saying that theirs have blown.
This adds to my dilema, should I put them in already, or let them sit in my basement for another 2 months.
Yes I did, the front ones sunk into the cylinder and seized into place. I tried to go back to stock before I traded it in, but the stock FXT struts with only 5K on them no longer moved properly.

You ahve to take into account USDM STi springs drop your car over 5", thats a HUGE drop over stock. You're going to see that the springs on the stock struts don't even touch the tophats at full extension. You have to put the weight of the car on them and match it up slowly as it drops onto the hats.

The stock struts are made to travel a certain distance, when you compress them drastically like that, you push ALL the gas to one point, at such a high compression you will get leaks in order to equalize the pressure. In my case it blew the struts in a matter of a week or so.

I'd seriously look into some WRX Wagon struts and save your XT struts in case you decide you want the clearance again. Also you can get a set of KYB GR2s for the WRX Wagon for cheap, slap the springs on and have a great handling ride.
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Old 08-03-2004, 05:13 PM   #9
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so in summary we can say that the cleanest most trouble free swap would be:

1) 02, 03, or 04 WRX WGN struts, springs and tophats

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2) 04 USDM STI struts, springs and tophats

someone please confirm or comment so i can continue my shopping...
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Old 08-03-2004, 06:32 PM   #10
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I need to learn to read a little better, didn't see the Wagon specific. I'll have to look into that for my new TS

they're new from subaru for the 2004/05 models
click here to view example <---

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Old 08-04-2004, 11:11 AM   #11
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so in summary we can say that the cleanest most trouble free swap would be.....????

New Arrivals

Forester XT STi Springs
FORESTER STI SPRINGS
This spring set lowers the XT Stance approximately 1.1/4" in front and 1" in the rear - results: less body roll, lower center of gravity, improved handling and performance!

Price is each - you will need Qty 2 of both front and rear to complete one set


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ST2033088000 Forester XT STi Springs Front $90.00
ST2038088000 Forester XT STi Springs Rear $90.00
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Old 08-04-2004, 12:53 PM   #12
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so in summary we can say that the cleanest most trouble free swap would be:

1) 02, 03, or 04 WRX WGN struts, springs and tophats

or

2) 04 USDM STI struts, springs and tophats

someone please confirm or comment so i can continue my shopping...
Don't use the 02/03 rear top hats they are almost an inch smaller then the 04's, the rear wil sit even LOWER!
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Old 08-04-2004, 01:08 PM   #13
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so in summary we can say that the cleanest most trouble free swap would be.....????
New Arrivals
Forester XT STi Springs
FORESTER STI SPRINGS
This spring set lowers the XT Stance approximately 1.1/4" in front and 1" in the rear - results: less body roll, lower center of gravity, improved handling and performance!
Price is each - you will need Qty 2 of both front and rear to complete one set
Email this product to a friend
Item No. Description Amount Qty.
ST2033088000 Forester XT STi Springs Front $90.00
ST2038088000 Forester XT STi Springs Rear $90.00
sounds like a winner.... and where did bobshere get this information ? link or site please...

so i get to keep the stock struts and other assembly ? only install the springs ? no other parts or costs other than install them and alignment ?
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Old 08-04-2004, 01:11 PM   #14
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The Forester STi springs are the best solution to what you want to do, stiffen your ride, a little bit lower and won't need to change out your stock struts.
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Old 08-04-2004, 01:16 PM   #15
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Details here:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2666

I've been driving around with the STi SG springs on stock struts since Nov. and I've been very happy. Adding a 20mm USDM WRX STi rear sway bar and some 17" wheels with good rubber (my tires added another 1/2" drop) really helped make the Forester handle without being a killer bone jarring ride.
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:32 PM   #16
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Details here:
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2666
I've been driving around with the STi SG springs on stock struts since Nov. and I've been very happy. Adding a 20mm USDM WRX STi rear sway bar and some 17" wheels with good rubber (my tires added another 1/2" drop) really helped make the Forester handle without being a killer bone jarring ride.
Peaty, excuse my ignorance but what is SG stand for and please recommend where I order the springs ?

any other parts required and is alignment still a must ?

BTW i still have the BBS RK's from my WRX WGN ready to slap on once i get tires...
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Sorry, SF is the first gen Forester 98-02' MY and the SG or Second Generation is the 03 on (so far) MY.

I was able to get my springs from someone that got some extra's when he had his improted, look here:

http://www.subaruforester.com/viewtopic.php?t=648

Not sure if he still has any left, I understand Subie Gal has some too, another good place to get them:

http://www.subaruforester.com/viewtopic.php?t=2275

How to install them at my link above. You don't really need any other parts to put the springs on the OEM struts.

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Old 08-04-2004, 04:08 PM   #18
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I have usdm sti struts/springs. My car dropped 3" all around. I am thinking that perhaps the drop is more if you use the stock struts. I did not even try to run my stock struts with those springs as I new anything more than 1-1.5" drop on stock struts is not good.
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Old 08-04-2004, 10:26 PM   #19
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thanks peaty... i've shared your contributions/organizational skillS with our south florida gang and you are our fxt hero (and so am i)...

you deserve before & after pics soon... (not to mention autox action )
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contacted harvey and still has a set... can't wait for the brown truck...
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things didn't work out with harvey... but subiegal got my order for the springs and sway bar... very painless so far...
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Old 08-19-2004, 03:29 PM   #23
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Ended up sticking a set of $50 USDM STi springs on my stock FXT struts with Perrin 22mm sway bar, endlinks, and camber bolts.

The STi springs on the FXT struts was an easy install and the struts are freebies, so I'm not going to freak out if they blow. If they do, I'll spend the money to get coilovers. This is a good experiment in the meantime. STi/SPT lateral links planned next.

BrysImpreza: where did you get the clear headlight housings on your FXT? Did you use the "bake and pry" method or were they purchased somewhere? Looks so clean!
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Can't go wrong ordering from her
just following a proven setup and thanks for your guidance so far...
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My car only dropped 2.5" with USDM STI springs with stock XT struts and strut tops. YES I did measure before and after. 5000 miles, 3 autocross events and no problems.
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